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PERRY: WHY I SUPPORTED AL GORE...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html ^ | 08/15/2011 | Bob King

Posted on 08/15/2011 8:09:32 PM PDT by RED SOUTH

In an interview with an Iowa radio station on Monday, the Republican presidential contender explained his role as the Gore campaign’s Texas chairman by saying that “this was Al Gore before he invented the Internet and got to be Mr. Global Warming.”

But in fact, global warming was already a significant theme for Gore in 1987 and 1988 — long before his activism led to several books, a Nobel Prize and a part in an Academy Award-winning film. It was also well before the right gave him the "Mr. Ozone" nickname and talk radio heaped endless mockery on the future vice president.


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To: tioga

PRobably back when he had an 85% positive pro-life rating, and was part of the NRA.


101 posted on 08/15/2011 9:06:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BobL

LOL I gag whenever I remember that event. So faked!


102 posted on 08/15/2011 9:07:52 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: BobL

Worry not....there is another

103 posted on 08/15/2011 9:08:06 PM PDT by xp38
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To: RED SOUTH; GoCards; GunningForTheBuddha; The Bronze Titan; Domangart; sillsfan; alstewartfan; ...
this was Al Gore before he invented the Internet and got to be Mr. Global Warming

Perry is a Liar:

Gore's 1988 ACU rating is a 9!

There wasn't a conservative bone in his body.

Either Perry doesn't understand what it means to be a conservative or he thinks the base is too stupid to care, or to stupid to do our homework.

104 posted on 08/15/2011 9:08:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: BobL

Worry not....there is another

105 posted on 08/15/2011 9:08:40 PM PDT by xp38
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To: kabar

Actually, nobody knows yet who Perry voted for in 1980 or 1984.

And I’ve read here that he voted for Bush in 1988k after Gore lost.

Of course, you should believe everything you receive in an e-mail; you probably will get 15 million dollars from that nice Nigerian guy if you act quickly.


106 posted on 08/15/2011 9:09:06 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PMAS
I do hope you all realize the Perry bashing through many of these articles is coming from the left is too get us Romney as the nominee.

Nope not buying that arguement. There are other candidatess besides Romney and Perry...I'm not on the left but I will not be voting for Perry nor Romney.

107 posted on 08/15/2011 9:09:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: PMAS

It's not Perry Bashing when someone is telling the truth , just feels like bashing to Perry lovers because the truth is so bad.


108 posted on 08/15/2011 9:09:58 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, you will LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: therut; RED SOUTH
Even Mr. Heston of the NRA fame was a Democrat at one time. People can and do change. Even Saint Reagan was a Democrat. I might add and FDR Democrat. FDR for goodness sake. The worst President on domestic issues EVER.

You're making excuses for a man who just lied to your face.
109 posted on 08/15/2011 9:10:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: comebacknewt

>>Out of curiosity, for those of you upset by this, if you were a Democrat in 1988, who would you have supported for President?
Here are your choices:

Michael Dukais

Gary Hart

Joe Biden

Jesse Jackson

Dick Gephart

Paul Simon

Al Gore <<

Any man who went through 8 years of Reagan, and at the end of his term was so danged stupid that he supported Al Gore, is unfit for the office of President, as far as I’m concerned.


110 posted on 08/15/2011 9:10:58 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Gore’s 1988 ACU rating is a 9!”

Nice link. I still think that was moderate, maybe before then...but I didn’t know he was so far off the deck by 1988. Bensten (Texas Senator who ran with The Loser in 1984) was much closer to the middle back then.


111 posted on 08/15/2011 9:12:13 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: therut

my kids get vaccinated against everything.

My oldest was old enough to make the gardisil choice herself.
She figured, while she could always be certain what she had been up to - she could never be certain what anyone else had been up to.

The first shot made her feel ill - but we thought that was no biggy. Other shots will give you a fever or make you feel achy.

The second time she went in the nurse left the room after giving her the shot. When the nurse returned my daughter was unconscious and having a seizure. She had vomitted and her lips were blue.
At the time Merck was denying this was a possible side affect, but have since added this possibility to their literature.

I have 2 other daughters who will not receive this injection until they figure out what the heck is causing that kind of reaction in some of these girls.


112 posted on 08/15/2011 9:12:13 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

We...

Never...

Learn.

The best chance we have had in 23 years to get another Reagan in there, and some of us a ready to bring Al Gore’s Texas Campaign manager from 1988 on board.

Sorry Gipper, we don’t want another one of you by God. /s


113 posted on 08/15/2011 9:12:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Destroyer = anti-US, the West, Christians, Israel, banks, W.S., Corps, & the free enterpr systm.)
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To: comebacknewt; RED SOUTH
I do have some concerns about some of Perry's other issues, but this one is a non-starter as far as I personally am concerned.

Re-think your position because he just flat-out lied to your face.

Perry is not an ignorant fool and Al Gore had an 9% ACU rating in 1988.

There was nothing conservative about him them and nothing now.

Don't let him play you like a fool!
114 posted on 08/15/2011 9:13:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: RichardW

Speak for yourself. There are plenty of Texans, myself included, who are blowing the whistle on this charlatan.

Spin it all you want, facts are stubborn things.


115 posted on 08/15/2011 9:13:19 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: RED SOUTH; All
You are so right about that phony liberal Perry. I never knew that Texas was so darn liberal and Texans so darn stupid as to vote for a liberal like Perry THREE TIMES. Who would have thought that!!!

Might as well give up on these here United States of America when Texas is so darn liberal that it makes New York look like a red state.

116 posted on 08/15/2011 9:13:33 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: therut

I agree with you about the efficacy of vaccines, but to REQUIRE an STD vaccine for 12 yr-olds seems like a gross intrusion into parental responsibility. I have a feeling that had Perry been governor of Mass, he’d have been as bad as Romney, and very possibly, he’d still be a Democrat. Just my suspicions. Bob


117 posted on 08/15/2011 9:14:13 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The movie's rolled down to the last reel. It's got an ending you never planned. Harry Chapin)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
See post 116 and think about it.
118 posted on 08/15/2011 9:14:50 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: PMAS

[ I do hope you all realize the Perry bashing through many of these articles is coming from the left is too get us Romney as the nominee. ]

Duuuugh.. Those not for Perry would never vote for Romney..
Unless they had no choice..


119 posted on 08/15/2011 9:14:58 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Scotswife

Sounds reasonable to me. There is always a chance of a adverse reaction to any vaccine or medication. Hopefully over time like all vaccines it will get better. Maybe someday cervical cancer can be very rare or like small pox gone except in laboratories worldwide.


120 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:03 PM PDT by therut
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To: cva66snipe

That’s liberal RACIST Al Gore Sr! Bob


121 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:03 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The movie's rolled down to the last reel. It's got an ending you never planned. Harry Chapin)
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To: Chgogal

Texas is sort of conservative , made Perry fake right to keep his job all these years. But Keep in mind , Texas produced Lyndon Johnson , two Bush rino's and the rino Gov John Connally who was one front runners in 1980 , had way more money than Reagan to run on.


122 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:17 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, you will LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: RichardW
If they will not support Perry in the general election they are fools who deserve the hell that will descend upon America in 2012 if Obama wins a second term because of Republican Stupidity.

Might be a good idea to compare all the Candidates running, instead of comparing them to Obama...who's a complete failure..... some of which have yet to declare. Boltons considering...heck even Trumps re-thinking and there are others on the sideline...Christy might yet step up...like Perry did, denying he'll "ever" do that but then he does.

We don't know who are all the Candidates running...you're a Texan so pretty obvious you'd want your guy in for that reason alone. Hard to see the faults of "family" members or oppose them.

123 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: RichardW
If they will not support Perry in the general election they are fools who deserve the hell that will descend upon America in 2012 if Obama wins a second term because of Republican Stupidity.

Might be a good idea to compare all the Candidates running, instead of comparing them to Obama...who's a complete failure..... some of which have yet to declare. Boltons considering...heck even Trumps re-thinking and there are others on the sideline...Christy might yet step up...like Perry did, denying he'll "ever" do that but then he does.

We don't know who are all the Candidates running...you're a Texan so pretty obvious you'd want your guy in for that reason alone. Hard to see the faults of "family" members or oppose them.

124 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: sillsfan

LOL! That’s a very concise observation.


125 posted on 08/15/2011 9:18:06 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

>>,Actually, nobody knows yet who Perry voted for in 1980 or 1984.<<

Well if he voted for Reagan both those times, then turned around and campaigned for Climate Crusader Al Gore, the man is an idiot.


126 posted on 08/15/2011 9:18:20 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: GunningForTheBuddha; fieldmarshaldj; Eagle Eye; ansel12; Impy

>>>>>>>>>>>
[Perry] explained his role as the Gore campaign’s Texas chairman by saying that “this was Al Gore before he invented the Internet and got to be Mr. Global Warming.”
<<<<<<<<<<<

That’s a flatly untrue assertion by Rick Perry. During his Senate career in the 1980s, Al Gore was WELL KNOWN for his “enviromental activism” and for being a global warming alarmist, as well as boosting of technological and computer accomplishments. Gore claimed he invented the internet “during my service in the United States Senate”, rather than the year it had actually been invented (1969, when Gore was stil in college)

GORE’S TREE-HUGGING ACTIVISM IN THE 80s....

Gore has been involved with the environment for a number of decades. In 1976, after joining the United States House of Representatives, Gore held the “first congressional hearings on the climate change, and co-sponsored hearings on toxic waste and global warming.” He continued to speak on the topic throughout the 1980s and was known as one of the ‘Atari Democrats’, later called the “Democrats’ Greens, politicians who see issues like clean air, clean water and global warming as the key to future victories for their party.”
In 1989, while still a Senator, Gore published an editorial in the Washington Post, in which he argued:
“Humankind has suddenly entered into a brand new relationship with the planet Earth. The world’s forests are being destroyed; an enormous hole is opening in the ozone layer. Living species are dying at an unprecedented rate”.
In 1990, Senator Gore presided over a three-day conference with legislators from over 42 countries which sought to create a Global Marshall Plan, “under which industrial nations would help less developed countries grow economically while still protecting the environment.”
The Concord Monitor says that during the 1980s, Gore “was one of the first politicians to grasp the seriousness of climate change and to call for a reduction in emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouses gases.

GORE BOOSTING OF BEING TECH-SAAVY IN THE 80s...

Gore had been involved with computers since the 1970s, first as a Congressman and later as Senator and Vice President, where he was a “genuine nerd, with a geek reputation running back to his days as a futurist Atari Democrat in the House. Before computers were comprehensible [...] Gore struggled to explain artificial intelligence and fiber-optic networks to sleepy colleagues.”[1] According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the “problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had exercised Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s.”
24 Jun 1986:
Albert Gore introduce S 2594 Supercomputer Network Study Act of 1986 [4]
As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as “The Gore Bill”) after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network.


127 posted on 08/15/2011 9:20:46 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: therut
Even Saint Reagan was a Democrat.

Reagan wasn't holding or running for office when he was a democrate...as Perry was.

128 posted on 08/15/2011 9:21:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: DoughtyOne

“...some of us a ready to bring Al Gore’s Texas Campaign manager from 1988 on board.”

I don’t know, this is a bombshell. Sure, you have lingering Perrybots still flailing around and drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think that when the dust settles, the truth about Perry that is coming out and will come out, is quite damning.

It just amazes me how people are willfully blind to the truth, which is staring them right in the face.


129 posted on 08/15/2011 9:22:05 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: RichardW
Perry endorsed Rudy Giuliani in 08

'Nuff said.

130 posted on 08/15/2011 9:23:16 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: SoConPubbie
I'm not letting him play me. I am going by my personal recollection.

When he was Senator, I liked Al Gore (along with Howell Heflin, Sam Nunn and a few other Southern and Western Democrats). I didn't like them enough to support them in a general election, but they were to the right of some of our GOP Senators on several of the issues of the day.

I will look into that 1988 ACU rating though. It does surprise me.

131 posted on 08/15/2011 9:23:20 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: Manic_Episode

Looks like Perry has a lot of apologizing to do.


132 posted on 08/15/2011 9:24:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RED SOUTH

That means he’s as stupid as Gore.


133 posted on 08/15/2011 9:24:25 PM PDT by dalereed (uity wise!)
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To: RichardW

[ If they will not support Perry in the general election they are fools who deserve the hell that will descend upon America in 2012 ]

Pee wee Herman could beat Zero Obama... ALL republican candidates are better..
yeah even Huntsman.. I am surprised The Hildebeast don’t take him on..
But then that would despise the Planets of Apes mentality..
“Monkey don’t harm monkey”.. in the democrat party..


134 posted on 08/15/2011 9:24:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: plain talk
Compared to the other Democratic candidates, Gore may have seemed like the most moderate...his opponents were Michael Dukakis, Dick Gephardt, Paul Simon, Bruce Babbitt, Jesse Jackson, and briefly Gary Hart. Gore was also the only Southerner (if Gephardt's part of Missouri doesn't count as Southern).

1988 was only 123 years after the end of the War between the States. Maybe Perry had relatives who fought or died defending Texas against Lincoln's soldiers.

I haven't decided what I think about Perry, but the fact that he was still a Democrat in 1988 does not disqualify him as far as I am concerned.

135 posted on 08/15/2011 9:24:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: comebacknewt
Out of curiosity, for those of you upset by this, if you were a Democrat in 1988, who would you have supported for President? Here are your choices: Michael Dukais Gary Hart Joe Biden Jesse Jackson Dick Gephart Paul Simon Al Gore

Wasn't Gary Hart out before the election, a little hottie named Jennifer Rice or something?

136 posted on 08/15/2011 9:25:31 PM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: BillyBoy

That’s the main thing that bugs me about Perry on this.

Actually, two things:

1 ) That he went through 8 years of Reagan, then was Al Gore’s Campaign Manager (this is enough to nuke him in my book)

2) That he lies about if and tries to rewrite history today, i.e. “this was Al Gore before he...got to be Mr. Global Warming.”

The outright lie and trying to whitewash his own history is what ought to set off warning bells in the head of every thoughtful person.


137 posted on 08/15/2011 9:26:59 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

“It just amazes me how people are willfully blind to the truth, which is staring them right in the face.”

Maybe...but keep in mind that Perry has an army of paid supporters, as he’s always been financed by Big Money here in Texas and has lots of cash to play with. Obviously, I don’t know if those supporters are on this site defending him, but it would be pretty dumb if they weren’t. A lot of grass-roots people get their information from FreeRepublic, so being on this site for them would only make sense. That’s likely why it’s impossible to convince some people as to who Perry really is.


138 posted on 08/15/2011 9:27:36 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

As it relates to the PMRC absolutely. Because the same laws that the PMRC were gunning for brfore dialing back to warning labels could have just as easily been applied to the Old Testament. No, that is NOT an exageration.

I grew up in that era and the PMRC had a lot to do with my political development. That witch and her cohorts had Rob Halford nearly imprisoned over song lyrics because some kid offed himself listening to a song!

Read up on Tipper and the Washington Wives and thank God every day that Zappa, Dee Snider and John Denver saved us from what that crap could have really been..


139 posted on 08/15/2011 9:29:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BobL

LOL. Well, if Perry’s paid supporters are on this site, they have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do!!! A lot of dirt is coming out.


140 posted on 08/15/2011 9:29:58 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: RED SOUTH
Well lets see.

Open borders

Support of Texas Muslims

Supported Algore

3 strikes...You're OUT!

141 posted on 08/15/2011 9:30:29 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Artemis Webb
btw am I the only person who thought Tipper Gore was insanely hot in those days?

Yes.

142 posted on 08/15/2011 9:32:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoConPubbie

Looks like it coming in at, “Too stupid to do their homework, and too stupid to even care.”


143 posted on 08/15/2011 9:36:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Destroyer = anti-US, the West, Christians, Israel, banks, W.S., Corps, & the free enterpr systm.)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe he’ll go on a George Allen-style mea culpa bus tour. There is no rational explanation for Perry voting for Carter, Mondale and Dukakis. Bob


144 posted on 08/15/2011 9:37:51 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The movie's rolled down to the last reel. It's got an ending you never planned. Harry Chapin)
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To: blasater1960

+1


145 posted on 08/15/2011 9:38:42 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: CSI007
Perry seeems to be getting exposed for what he really is....

This was predictable. He's starting to sound like Joe Isuzu.

146 posted on 08/15/2011 9:38:50 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: ebshumidors
The point is why was he a dem in ‘88?

I am going to assume you live somewhere up north and really want to be enlightened.

As a fairly new resident of Texas in 1988, I found Texas to be pretty much run by democrats. The real election was the democrat primary, where the liberal democrat ran against the conservative democrat. (Yes, there were conservative democrats in those days.) Republicans were pretty scarce, especially in east Texas, where Perry grew up. It was in the 80's and early 90's that the conservative republicans (all over the South) defied tradition and became republicans. John Connally, Phil Gramm and Rick Perry were part of that movement. Now Texas is pretty much run by republicans, with the governor, lieutenant governor, both houses of the legislature, two US Senators and most (all?) state-wide elective offices.

I accept Perry's explanation of his party switch as typical of the times. One negative I see for Perry is that he is a career politician. A career politician would strive to serve his party in an important position, for example, as state chairman for presidential candidate Gore. The other two active candidates with executive experience have not spent most of their lives seeking political office--Cain and Romney. Cain is a long-shot, Romney's conservative credentials are suspect.

My ideal candidate is not running. Neither, I suspect, is yours. We must choose from available candidates, and Perry is worthy of consideration.

147 posted on 08/15/2011 9:39:15 PM PDT by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: Cracker Jack; ebshumidors
My ideal candidate is not running. Neither, I suspect, is yours. We must choose from available candidates, and Perry is worthy of consideration.

Al Gore had an ACU(American Conservative Union) Rating of 9 out of 100 in 1988



Cracker Jack, you need to enlighten yourself before you try and convince anyone that Perry is worthy of consideration.

Perry just lied to you and every other conservative in the US with this line of his.

No one, and I mean no one, should be considering a liar for President.
148 posted on 08/15/2011 9:42:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: RED SOUTH
So you agree Texans are not only liberal, but they are stupid.
149 posted on 08/15/2011 9:45:52 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Cracker Jack

You do have a point. Arkansas is still mainly a Democratic State espically on the State level. Although it is changing now. But, if you wanted to vote for anyone you would vote Democratic cause that was what everyone ran as. Has to do with the “War between the State’s” and the long held dislike for Republician just cause of the name. Things have changed alot. Most of our local elections are entirely Democrats. Plus you can vote in either primary. Alot of people vote in the Democratic primary for that reason STILL.


150 posted on 08/15/2011 9:46:40 PM PDT by therut
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