Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Behind the Michele Bachmann 'submissive' question (Byron York provides dithering justification)
washington examiner ^ | 8/15/11 | Byron York

Posted on 08/16/2011 6:21:14 AM PDT by Mamzelle

"Whatever the case, Bachmann's answer in Ames Thursday night was by far the most human moment of her appearance in the debate -- a far cry from her tough exchanges with former Minnesota Gov. (and now former candidate) Tim Pawlenty. At their best, debates tell us new things about candidates and allow us to learn more about aspects of their personalities we haven't seen before. Is there any doubt that moment in Ames on Thursday night did just that for Michele Bachmann?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bachman; byronyork; ephesians; submission
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-63 next last
47 Days And FR Is Still Short Of Its Goal

We Are In A Fight For Our Republic

Are You In Or Are You Out?

Support Free Republic

21 posted on 08/16/2011 6:55:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dudoight
I had a bit of a problem with the question, as it was clearly one designed to attack a true Christian.

My larger concern was her answer. Respect is clearly different from submission. Bachman gave a political answer and not a correct Christian answer.

22 posted on 08/16/2011 6:56:31 AM PDT by Blackandproud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
Yes.They don't note how Paul builds toward his climax.Yes, women should be submissive to their husbands. Nothing new about that in the Jewish culture of his day. Then he tells us of the necessity of intimacy between a man and a woman,parents and children but lastly he tells us that that man, the husnand must play the role of Christ, he must love wife and children as Christ loves the Church. In short, to give his all.
23 posted on 08/16/2011 6:59:08 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle

I was raised Catholic, so don’t take this wrong, but it seems that - since JFK - Catholics are exempt from these theological grillings, and it’s only conservative Protestants who who subjected to it. Catholic doctrine has as many points offensive to secularists as does conservative Protestantism - papal infallability, the real presence in the Eucharist, male-only priesthood, eternal hell, prohibition of divorce, views on abortion, contraception, and homosexuality - but it seems Catholic politicians are never grilled about these things, probably because they are usually Democrats and because they say stuff like, “I’m personally opposed to abortion, but . . . “


24 posted on 08/16/2011 7:03:00 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
We know Urkel's Rodents in The Libturd Media is going to bring this up again and again regardless of how well she answers it.

If Michele was smart (and she obviously is), she will stop trying to "explain" what she meant and, instead, launch into one of her talking points. As much as I hate talking points, this issue is going to garner her much more air time, face time and print time than any of her stated policy stances.

The best defense is a good offense. The Libturds are obviously going to put her on the defense every chance they get. She is going to have to learn how to take that ball away.

25 posted on 08/16/2011 7:05:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle

A correction of my statement - I think the Catholic Church does not prohibit divorce, it prohibits remarriage after divorce. And another Catholic belief alien to many secularists - a belief in demons and evil spirits. Palin was made to look like a rube because she believed in them, but the Catholic Church has its well-known exorcism ritual.


26 posted on 08/16/2011 7:07:58 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle

It seems that many conservative columnists are anti-woman when it comes to politics. Perhaps they feel threatened because they are insecure in their manhood.


27 posted on 08/16/2011 7:14:01 AM PDT by kittymyrib
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mr_griz
If she were a Muslim - would they have asked this?

Probably not, but that doesn't mean asking certain types of questions is always bigoted. Do I think the question was a "gotcha" type? Yes, I do. But I also think that those aspiring to public office should be able to explain how their faith informs their overall outlook and behavior. Such questions, however perceived, would have been quite useful in 2008. I don't think either candidate was prepared to honestly discuss such matters.

28 posted on 08/16/2011 7:18:43 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: kittymyrib
Ann Coulter referred to these effeminate National Review twinks as "girly men"--

I am so disgusted with Fox these days.

29 posted on 08/16/2011 7:19:06 AM PDT by Mamzelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
“Submissive”?? This is a NON-ISSUE.

If the Left would have pressed Billy Boy THIS hard on what “the definition of is-is”, we may have got the guy impeached for good and all.

Enough, this is BS!

For Bachmann to revisit this topic ad infinitum and at the will of the MSM is foolish. She has made herself clear and I should add, she made herself clear on a completely inane and insignificant issue. If you are a grown up, that is more than enough!!

30 posted on 08/16/2011 7:19:14 AM PDT by SMARTY (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
Ann Coulter referred to these effeminate National Review twinks as "girly men"--

Well Ann should know about "girly men."

31 posted on 08/16/2011 7:20:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle

You’re right, and NR is ostensibly a Catholic/neo-con-jewish organ these days.

Protestants need not apply. Other than Mittens Romney, who is LDS. They’re in the tank for Romney, big-time. But then, Romney has the credentials that NR wants to see: Ivy League degrees.


32 posted on 08/16/2011 7:20:32 AM PDT by NVDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle
Why aren't Catholics grilled on theological and moral points? You know the answer as well as I do.

Catholic politicians aren't grilled on these things by the press and the pundits, because so many of them (those prominent on the national scene) don't believe any of it, neither the faith nor the morals, and everybody knows it.

If their own BISHOP questions their stand on bedrock right-and-wrong issues like, say, the intentional killing of the innocent, or the twisting of marriage to accommodate open perversion, it's the presstitutes and the pundits who cry "foul" and try to make the Bishop and everybody else shut up on these "divisive" issues.

33 posted on 08/16/2011 7:24:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle

Your correction is correct! :o)


34 posted on 08/16/2011 7:25:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
What role does her husband play in her performance in public office? With that in mind, I asked Bachmann this question at the Fox News-Washington Examiner debate in Ames, Iowa on Thursday night.

*TO BYRON YORK:

I actually don't respect you anymore, FWIW.

35 posted on 08/16/2011 7:31:03 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


36 posted on 08/16/2011 7:32:59 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o
Correct, Mrs. Don-o, I hinted at it with my comment about Catholic politicians saying, "I'm personally opposed to abortion, but . . .," but you gave the point more emphasis - there's kind of a winking going on between the press and most Catholic politicians, because the press knows the politicians don't believe any of that stuff anyway.

And it's the same with Obama, although he's not a Catholic, he professes to be a Christian but he's never grilled about - or asked to explain his position on - anything in the Bible that offends secular sensibilities.
37 posted on 08/16/2011 7:34:34 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_York


38 posted on 08/16/2011 7:37:33 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle
I don't think the press takes purely theological statements seriously on any level, since to them it's all precisely meaningless. Stephen Colbert, for instance, recited the Nicene Creed on TV

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/?lnk=v&ml_video=59606&source=OD_VIDEO:playlist:The+De-Deification+of+the+American+Faithscape

---and nobody's going to question him on any part of it, not one phrase of it, not one word, because they see it as meaningless babble.

But don't try to mess with anybody's between-the-legs issues, or they'll shout you down with Anathemas -- and cut off your mike, and maybe more.

39 posted on 08/16/2011 7:51:09 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, O Mary, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
What I get so sick of is the repetitive predictable "gotcha" questions aimed at Republicans over tough issues like sex, religion and abortion.

In 35+ years of debate-watching, which, including primary debates probably includes more than 150 debates, I have seen scores of "gotcha" questions on abortion directed at conservatives. I have never once seen a tough abortion question asked of a "pro-choice" candidate.

Proposed question (which has never been asked):

"Mr. Obama, you have a long held view that late term abortion should be legal. Many say that a fetus or unborn child going through this procedure suffers tormenting pain undergoing a late-term abortion. Do you believe the researchers and doctors who assert this are wrong in their assessment, and if so, what specifically is that opinion based on?

40 posted on 08/16/2011 7:52:59 AM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-63 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson