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2 Wisconsin Democrats keep their Senate seats
AP/WorldMag ^ | Aug 16, 11:19 PM EDT | SCOTT BAUER

Posted on 08/16/2011 8:35:00 PM PDT by quantim

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Two Democratic Wisconsin state senators targeted by Republicans survived their elections Tuesday, ending a tumultuous summer of recalls spurred by anger over how lawmakers reacted to Gov. Scott Walker's proposal curbing collective bargaining rights of public workers.

Democrats picked up two seats through the nine recalls but were unable to wrest majority Senate control away from the GOP, which now holds a narrow 17-16 majority. Before the recalls, Republicans had a 19-14 edge in the chamber.

The two senators facing recall Tuesday were among the 14 senators who fled the state in February in opposition to Walker's proposal which passed despite their absence and has been held up by the state Supreme Court.

Democratic Sen. Bob Wirch of Pleasant Prairie defeated Kenosha attorney Jonathan Steitz, and Sen. Jim Holperin of Conover beat tea party Republican Kim Simac of Eagle River.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: quantim; pgyanke; Fledermaus; SteveAustin; Mouton

Here are the numbers - unfortunately they were not close.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/127831843.html


21 posted on 08/16/2011 10:28:04 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: quantim

I bet this wont be the last we hear of Kim Simac. She’s an amazing lady.
Here’s hoping she runs for Herb Kohl’s U.S. Senate seat.


22 posted on 08/17/2011 12:00:18 AM PDT by 1912comeback (Forever Forward!)
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To: quantim

What the HELL is wrong with these STUPID voters that theystill want someone who FLEES the state rather than vote on something?????


23 posted on 08/17/2011 1:54:16 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

The Republic CAN survive Barack.

Can the Republic survive the people that thought he’d be good with the power of President?


24 posted on 08/17/2011 1:57:17 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: raygun

No....most people are too dumb anymore....and 51%pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX.....they will always vote for the Dem.


25 posted on 08/17/2011 1:59:20 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: quantim

I don`t know about that district up north, but I know the Kenosha area, having lived there in the `90s. Generally, they`re nice people, but they live, breathe and eat for the three things they hold precious: 1. The Union; 2. The Democrat Party; and 3. The Packers. Everything else is mere details.


26 posted on 08/17/2011 2:38:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: 1912comeback

Everything I`ve read about Kohl`s seat is that it`s Feingold`s for the taking, and the few polls taken reflect that sentiment. Much of Wisconsin (not all) apparently longs for the “good old days” of being pinned by the neck to the floor under the union thugs` jackboot.


27 posted on 08/17/2011 2:47:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: Ann Archy

I think once people realized that control of the Senate was no longer in play, a lot of people stayed home. Probably tired of the crap. Not saying it’s right but maybe what happened.


28 posted on 08/17/2011 3:49:14 AM PDT by paul544
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To: SteveAustin

The episode about Simac and her taxes could have been dismissed by drawing a comparison with Isenstat the CEO of GE and his taxes..

In fact both campaigns should have been natioalized because it was an executive decision by Obama to pour money into these recalls in the first place and he should have been tied to the union activity. Particularly with his poll numbers dropping

Also the behavior of the “paid protesters”, the cost to the state for repairs to the capitol. All of this should have been brought up and made an integral part of their presentatons but wasn’t.

The state legislature had already reduced the cost of car insurance by knocking half off that high premium coverage that Doyle gave to his trial lawyer buddies and the opportuinity to re-establish that connection to Doyle could have been used.

Then there is the smoking ban in taverns. You have voters pissed off because they completely inconvienienced with another useless feel good behavior modification that won’t save any lives and reduces tax support for Badgercare. But in Simac’s case she supported.

As far as I’m concerned the whole Wisconsin GOP senate recall campaign lacked direction and was a missed opportunity
http://www.theusmat.com/home.htm


29 posted on 08/17/2011 4:54:05 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

“The trouble with the GOP is that we have jobs, families, etc.”

I know, I know I am sounding like a bitch. But this goes for everyone who uses that phrase, which is all the time.

There was plenty of time to make arrangements for someone else to take of the children (if you have small ones) in one’s absence if one couldn’t be home.

Also, voting is scheduled to accommodate those who work.

The only excuses for not voting are a sick person within the household, car problems at the last minute, a car wreck (the gods forbid) along the way. I am sure there are other good reasons, but I can’t think of any


30 posted on 08/17/2011 6:54:06 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

to take of the children = to take care of the children

(My thoughts are working faster than my fingers. Sorry.)


31 posted on 08/17/2011 7:02:55 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: BenKenobi

WI GOP is quite centrist. They have routinely sandbagged conservatives. The highlight of their political year is the annual Tommy Thompson Nostalgia Tour.

The RNC phonebanked us all to death, this time. The money, of course, was for the RNC, not the candidates. All the R candidates simply kept trying to get more $$ out of former contributors. The callers were actually shocked into silence when told by us that we have been hurt badly in this economy and while we will vote, we simply have no more money for political donations at this time. One actually apologized for asking for a donation.

Our problem is the myriads of unionistas/government workers with a high prey drive and killer instincts. The rest of us are the prey, of course. In our case, my husband has a bloody tongue from having to bite it to keep silent when his mostly liberal clients tout their beliefs.

If you abandon every state with high numbers of D voters, you might as well just proclaim zerO and the donks as perpetual rulers. Which may just happen, regardless.


32 posted on 08/17/2011 7:12:07 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: mosesdapoet

Great stuff at your link. Forwarded to some active TP members.


33 posted on 08/17/2011 7:31:07 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

eh, I’m angry that a supposed “R” leaning district, swung in favour for the Dims.

We need the people of Wisconsin to wake up, but given their repudiation of the Rs, show me why I should believe that Wisconsin “gets it”. I’m sure not seeing it.

Every election I always see Wisconsin does “just enough” to support the Dim. Every. Single. One.


34 posted on 08/17/2011 8:25:36 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: BenKenobi
After decades of D rule, WI elected all Rs, except for the SoS, who had a high name recognition and was a D.

The unions/government employees were motivated by the donks to go after recalls when they lost 1) a major election and 2)their thuggish attempts to stop major legislation.

I'd say Wisconsin voters got it in 2010. They also defeated the attempt to overturn the SSCOTUS election and affirmed Prosser.

The difference this time was that the state GOP and the RNC didn't fight on the same turf as the donks. Despite the progressive propaganda, the donks had the advantage of union thugs and union money from out of state. The unionistas were riled up about bogus payroll losses (having to pay a pittance towards their benefits).

Because of the last election, we have Voter ID, Concealed Carry takes effect in a few months, we have a property tax cap for 2 years, unemployment is down.

We do not have the organization the progressives have, nor the vast amounts of money from the administration, the unions, the Soros NGOs. Still, given all the strength of the opposition and all the weaknesses we have to contend with, we have changed the administration and the laws to our benefit.

So, cut the people of Wisconsin some slack. It may even get better as the unions need to fight the same fights in other states and their dues are not being collected by several states, costing them not only the money itself, but the administrative costs of collection.

FWIW, just a month ago we overheard a progressive activist for Ron Kind admitting to other donks that the recall of Walker was going to be next to impossible. They are having major trouble getting the petitions signed with enough names, even with using every trick they can can.

35 posted on 08/17/2011 10:14:20 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

By all means please do so.


36 posted on 08/17/2011 11:14:32 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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