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Astonishing story of family with 11 children under age 12 hits the mainstream media
Life Site News ^ | August 16, 2011 | JEREMY KRYN

Posted on 08/17/2011 11:17:55 AM PDT by NYer

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To: trisham; BykrBayb
That looks great!
341 posted on 08/19/2011 1:49:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; BykrBayb

Thank you! :)


342 posted on 08/19/2011 1:52:23 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BykrBayb

There are always lessons to learn, even with memories.

Forgiving those who have done or meant me harm, is just one of many.

(((BIG HUG BACK ATCHA)))


343 posted on 08/19/2011 2:04:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: trisham

Every life has sorrows - they’re meant to soften our hearts towards others.

Thank you!


344 posted on 08/19/2011 2:08:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Bless you, friend. :)


345 posted on 08/19/2011 2:22:21 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Tax-chick; BykrBayb; little jeremiah
Wonderful story. My aunt had eleven children. As a child I thought it was the neatest thing. Still do. Even though I had NOTHING to do with it, I used to brag about it. Still do. : )

The welfare state only increases the number of people who think like the woman in your story, Mrs. Don-o. I don't recall hearing many complaints about large families growing up. I do now.

I understand people are upset by single moms whose children have multiple fathers, and the mother and children are supported on welfare. But not when the parents are married, the children have the same father and the family is self sufficient. It's too bad people immediately assume they must be getting government assistance.

346 posted on 08/19/2011 2:23:54 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: TAdams8591
I hope the Lord can restore our society to some kind of loving decency. We have to believe that He can, and that out little efforts at goodness--- good thoughts, good words, good deeds--- actually help.

Thank you for yours, TAdams.

347 posted on 08/19/2011 2:30:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Solo Dios basta.)
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To: little jeremiah

It breaks my heart to read your story, LJ. So tough to cope with a mother like that. It is truly amazing some people have the all right values despite the fact their parents didn’t.


348 posted on 08/19/2011 2:35:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: TAdams8591

It’s that precious free will - making a choice even a little towards God can make a huge difference after a while, kind of like a 2 or 3 degree change of direction - after miles, you’re in a totally different place than you would have been.

Each soul always has choices, every minute.

(Never a dull moment - my motto.)


349 posted on 08/19/2011 2:40:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: trisham

Er, maybe this weekend. Tom has fixed my camera: James did something to it so that everything was massively out of focus, even when it wasn’t moving.

But it’s not the same since his father shaved his head ... not the same at all.


350 posted on 08/19/2011 2:48:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, but it makes it all the harder to make moral choices or even see them when our own parents encourage the opposite. Otherwise how children are raised, would cease to be a topic of importance. But we all know, it’s crucial to the development of moral adults and in general a moral society.


351 posted on 08/19/2011 2:48:47 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The same to you, Mrs. Don-O!


352 posted on 08/19/2011 2:50:26 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Tax-chick

NO! Tell me that isn’t so! Those lovely curls are gone?


353 posted on 08/19/2011 2:51:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TAdams8591; Mrs. Don-o; little jeremiah; trisham; wagglebee

My mother just rolls her eyes at me (by email, these days), but she did say once that she didn’t realize how much good I was doing until many of her friends or guests mentioned that, having two, three, or even four children of their own, they didn’t have any grandchildren!

I know my aunt and uncle were about to despair before one of my (three) cousins finally had a child, not long before Frank was born. And they were born Catholic, too, not wandering in through the dimensional gullet. (That’s from another thread ...)

Tom plans to make sushi. He might have tried it tonight, but he forget to get the seaweed at the Asian grocery store, so it will have to wait until he gets back from his weekend campout. He can practice with the rice, first, anyway. A useful ambition, imo ... and the Asian grocery will sell him a live fish out of the tank, once he’s mastered some techniques using “krab.”


354 posted on 08/19/2011 2:54:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: trisham

Totally. They’ll probably grow back, though, when he gets out of the dirt-on-the-head stage. Pat’s do, if we let him go too long between haircuts, and Bill has perfectly styled wavy locks of which he is insanely proud.


355 posted on 08/19/2011 2:56:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Tax-chick
My parents had 12 grandchildren. So far, no great-grandchildren. Unfortunately, both parents are deceased.

We've never made sushi, but I don't think it's terribly difficult. I think the tricky part is mastering the bamboo thingy that resembles a placemat.

356 posted on 08/19/2011 3:01:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

We got the bamboo thingie. The ingredients of “California rolls” are cheap, so he can practice ... and if it turns out wrong, it’s krab-and-rice salad.


357 posted on 08/19/2011 3:03:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes, he can always grow it back if he chooses. All of your children have great hair. I wonder how that happened? :)


358 posted on 08/19/2011 3:03:34 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Tax-chick

I love having avocado as part of the ingredients. It’s luscious. I also like having caviar on the outside of the rice. It’s pretty and adds a nice salty snap. Most children probably wouldn’t care for it, though.


359 posted on 08/19/2011 3:07:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TAdams8591

You are totally right, TAdams. Although children are not completely “blank slates” - they each are unique right from the start, and their own particular flars and gifts manifest in course of time, raising ill or well makes a huge vital difference in how they turn out.

There are alwasy some who turn out ill despite the best efforts of parents etc, and some who turn out well despite a terrible upbringing or bad influences.

But the general rule applies in the vast majority of cases. And those with malignant upbringings often carry scars, or keep working out the bugs (so to speak) for decades.


360 posted on 08/19/2011 3:23:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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