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Hurricane Irene [Now at Cat 3]
NHC/NOAA ^ | 20 August 2011 | NHC/NOAA

Posted on 08/20/2011 4:22:03 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Tropical Storm Irene has developed from Invest 97 in the Western Atlantic Ocean, east of the Leeward Islands.

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To: NautiNurse
Thank you so much for all your hard work and diligence on these threads, NautiNurse!

Continuing prayers for all in harm's way.

601 posted on 08/25/2011 10:51:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: who knows what evil?
same here.

I have 5 one gallons jugs set to fill up for drinking water.

602 posted on 08/25/2011 10:52:35 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: mware

Great info! An addition, if I may? Don’t forget plans/supplies for any pets :)


603 posted on 08/25/2011 10:54:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: dixie sass

Oh they were bad, real bad, but they did not hit NJ like the one in 1962.


604 posted on 08/25/2011 10:54:48 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: nutmeg; Interesting Times; Gabz; abner; NautiNurse; Nick Danger; mware; fatima; StarFan; stanz; ...

Maybe if we all put our minds to it, we could “think” it bsck out to sea...

I know - dream on.


605 posted on 08/25/2011 10:55:02 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Black Agnes; nutmeg

Good comments about the gas.

I’d like to piggyback an additional caution on your comments for people who might wind up using gas-powered electric generators to be extremely conscious and careful about ensuring they have proper ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning from the exhaust. People die every year from that while using generators in poorly-ventilated areas.


606 posted on 08/25/2011 10:55:23 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I just heard that. I listen to a Salisbury radio station during the day.


607 posted on 08/25/2011 10:55:26 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Black Agnes

Darn Good idea — and if you’re thinking about doing it... better start right now.


608 posted on 08/25/2011 10:58:07 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I feel better. ;)

After Rita we had a tree (BIG pine) on the house and no electricity for 3 weeks. We were evacuated for duration of no electricy. We're 70 miles from GOM...as a bird flies.

609 posted on 08/25/2011 11:00:06 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: fatima
Hi fatima... stay safe there on the Jersey shore!

{{{hugs}}}

610 posted on 08/25/2011 11:01:09 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: abner
How are you doing, FRiend? Wow, it's been a long time! :-)

Hope you and victim of circumstance are doing well...

{{{hugs}}}

611 posted on 08/25/2011 11:02:26 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: mewzilla
Looks like tomorrow will be a baking day for me.

Was planning to bake some pumpkin bread anyway.

I also have about 30 tins of sterno.

In case of electricity loss, I'll be able to heat up can goods.

612 posted on 08/25/2011 11:03:05 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks for the info about the gas. My tank is less than half full... thank you for reminding me to fill up, FRiend!


613 posted on 08/25/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: nutmeg
Talking about it making land fall off South Jersey.
614 posted on 08/25/2011 11:04:50 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: lonestar

Think I’ll stop off at the bank and take out some extra money just in case.


615 posted on 08/25/2011 11:06:14 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: nutmeg

We are doing well. We survived the earthquake. Now we just need to get through Irene with minimal discomfort. Hope you and zelig are well.


616 posted on 08/25/2011 11:07:20 AM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: mware

Don’t forget your non-electric can opener!


617 posted on 08/25/2011 11:07:44 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Thank you so very much. Been looking for a hurricane thread. Sure would like to see it in breaking news soon.


618 posted on 08/25/2011 11:07:44 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/201102/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: lonestar
Good gravy! We've been lucky. We had some 70 MPH winds but only lost roofing shingles.

We have an old well out front with a broken pump in it. A bucket works too. :-)

619 posted on 08/25/2011 11:07:49 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: mware

Good idea. I did that before the debt debacle.


620 posted on 08/25/2011 11:08:22 AM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: mware

The latest NHS forecast still looks like it’s riding the coast the entire way up the Delmarva into NJ before hitting around NYC. But it’s still so far out that the track errors could be huge (they say a four-day forecast has an average variance of +/- 200 miles to the centerline of their estimate, and they show that on the map). I think it’s fairly safe to say that the coastline along the Eastern Shore and up into DE, NJ, and Long Island had better get ready for a wild Saturday and Sunday, though. How wild depends on just a few miles movement of the storm.

}:-)4


621 posted on 08/25/2011 11:10:58 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: mware

Yes! Our banks were closed for 2 or 3 days and opened without elec to cash checks only. They had cops and cashed checks only for their customers.


622 posted on 08/25/2011 11:11:09 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Moose4

Well those recruits at the Coast Guard Station in CapeMay are in for a wild ride.


623 posted on 08/25/2011 11:12:29 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Good suggestions with regard to the generators.

Allow me to add:

My parents were even further south than we were during Katrina. It was still a cat 1+ when it passed just to their east. THEY were w/o power (and cell phone service) for FIVE WEEKS. All the cell phone towers were damaged. They didn’t have a generator prior to Katrina (they have one now! LOL). Fortunately their neighbor across the road (they live in the country) is a doctor who had a generator. My dad had an old railroad luggage cart. The big one. They put the generator on that for transport and 4-5 families ‘shared’ it with everyone adding gas. IIRC they ran it for 2-3hrs each to charge up fridge and/or freezer and run a television to catch up on the news. When each family was done with their turn, they unhooked it from everything it, allowed it to cool off enough to move and then took it (walked with it on the wagon) to the next family. I have no idea what the duty cycle on this particular generator was so that might be worth looking into if power outages are protracted.

Might invest in some professional siphoning equipment. Towards the end they were siphoning their spare vehicles for the gas to run the generator. They had to choose between generator or travel. Gas shortages mentioned in previous post.

It was nearly a week before their road was cleared of 6-8 *massive* 100+ year old oak trees enough to drive a car around. The doctor rode his mountain bike to the hospital every day. 10m each way. In 90+ heat post Katrina. We like this doctor, he’s kewl.

Mind you, this was rural MS. There was NO looting in their vicinity. Ain’t nuthin’ worth dyin’ fer. Besides, they’d have shared if someone needed it bad enough.

No clue what will happen post storm with flash mobs. Might not amount to much, though, if the cell network is disrupted. Kinda hard to summon your hoodlum friends if there’s no tech to do it.

Praying for y’all!

I’m not in NJ anymore even though my location is still there. NJ message board is way more fun and interesting than the MS board. I like to keep up with people I know.


624 posted on 08/25/2011 11:13:02 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Oh, and if you’re thinking ‘my power lines are all underground I have nothing to worry about!’, think again. What Katrina took out were the BIGGIE transmission lines. YOu know, the 100+ft towers (guessing height here). For several months, every trip on I-55 we noticed the southbound lanes were big rig after big rig after big rig pulling trailers with those big transmission line pieces on them. Katrina played for keeps!


625 posted on 08/25/2011 11:15:49 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Moose4
The diagram they showed on Fox News showed it cutting into NJ around Atlantic County.

Just had a new roof put on 5 years ago.

Suppose to be able to take up to 100mph winds.

I hope they are not tested this weekend.

626 posted on 08/25/2011 11:16:47 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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To: NautiNurse
Thanks for the ping and all your hard work for a few years now :)
627 posted on 08/25/2011 11:19:08 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: Black Agnes
Good post.

Gasoline is always hard to come by after a storm.

Remember with generators the the very real possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning, always a few people loosing their lives needlessly.
Keep them well away from your house and ONLY OUTSIDE.

Another thing on generators, you'll need extra gas naturally, but don't forget oil. The smaller units 5 to 7.5 KW usually don't have an engine oil filter and you will have to change oil every 24 hours of operation, so get at least 5 or 6 extra quarts of oil.

A couple of rolls of thick plastic sheeting is helpful if your roof starts to leak.

630 posted on 08/25/2011 11:19:34 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hurricanes spawn tornadoes.


631 posted on 08/25/2011 11:19:45 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Black Agnes

Your mention of flash mobs brings up an interesting point. This storm is potentially going to track across a couple of major urban areas (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Suffolk/Chesapeake VA and metro NYC) and fairly close to Philadelphia as well. Given what’s been going on this summer, I do wonder what’s going to happen if those areas take a hard hit from this thing and there’s massive power outages and transport disruption.

}:-)4


632 posted on 08/25/2011 11:20:29 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: mware

Great list mware.

For those in areas potentially affected by Irene GAS UP NOW. I’ve been through 2 cat 3s and the gas lines right before and after blew my mind.

Best wishes.


633 posted on 08/25/2011 11:29:42 AM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: The Cajun

All good points. I want to add that my parents (my dad especially) and all their neighbors (including the doctor) are ‘country people’ who have grown up around equipment and know what to do with it and how it runs. If this is new stuff to you, BE VERY CAREFUL. Find someone who knows what they’re doing (that you KNOW knows what they’re doing) if possible.

Never run a generator inside. Not even inside your garage with the garage door open! I’d be cautious even in a postage stamp yard with privacy fences. Maybe run it on your driveway for a few hours to charge up fridge/freezer and get some news, let it cool off and then put it back in your garage overnight so it won’t get stolen (as easily). That sort of thing wasn’t a problem in my parents area. In an urban environment it might become an issue.


634 posted on 08/25/2011 11:31:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: lonestar

I grew up in Toledo, Ohio. In tornado alley. I spent a lot of my summers in the basement. lol


635 posted on 08/25/2011 11:32:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: dixie sass

hi dixie sass,nice to see you.((((Hugs))))


636 posted on 08/25/2011 11:33:12 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: Black Agnes

If I might add something to the gas info....

Last year in Kentucky there was an ice storm that knocked out power to several cities. Some of the ham radio operators from our area went to help. Even though some gas stations had generators, they couldn’t pump the gas because the internet was down. Gas was there, power was there, but there was no way to access it until they got their internet connections established again.


637 posted on 08/25/2011 11:57:14 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Ocean City, MD just ordered mandatory evacuation to start at midnight tonight.


638 posted on 08/25/2011 11:58:15 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: nutmeg

I remember when Katrina hit. Things started going downhill about 6am that morning for us. Hubby had to go in 1/2 day as he’s support staff. I’d been up all night with a brand new baby (4w old that day in fact) and was exhausted. No way the baby was sleeping with all that racket. Hubby walked in about 12:30pm and I essentially handed him the baby and ran upstairs. Put in earplugs and slept through Katrina. When I woke up about 7:00 that evening there was a goodly breeze coming in the windows. He’d basically sat back and watched out the french doors on the lee side of the house. He watched limbs go by. Shingles go by. Baby just wide eyed. Once I woke up we stayed up and talked until about 10:00 and he went to sleep leaving me night shift with the baby again.

So, I listened to WWL out of NO to see what was going on there. At that point the news stations thought NO had caught a break with flooding. But, around midnight there started to be callers talking about water running down their street. Water 3-4ft deep running down their street. ‘That’s not good!’ said the DJ. Nope. Wasn’t. Listened to that all night as the DJ and civil defense finally figured out what had happened.

Meanwhile, we lived in an urban area not too far from the bad side of town. With windows open. So I found my hubby’s .45. Just me, the baby, a candle, the radio and hubby’s .45 Will never forget that.


639 posted on 08/25/2011 12:02:10 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Gabz

Wow, they’ve ridden out some nasty storms too.


640 posted on 08/25/2011 12:11:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Grammy

Our particular area got power back within a week. Including land line service. Most of our issues were wind damage. For flooded areas, especially if comms equipment is flooded, that would be an issue.

Most retailers now need internet to talk to the mother ship.

As my grandfather used to say ‘I’d rather be lookin’ at it, than lookin’ fer it!’.


641 posted on 08/25/2011 12:15:12 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mware

Take it from a veteran of Katrina, Betsy, and more hurricanes than I can remember:

You will need a lot more than 1 gallon per person per day to flush toilets. Fill tubs and some 5 gal. buckets.

Fill refrigerators now to keep them cool longer. Make block ice if you have a large freezer, from gallon (or larger) jugs or plastic buckets.

If the power should be out long enough for your refrigerator to lose all its cool, empty it out and leave the door open, to prevent maggots from breeding in spoiled food. Dispose of perishables because they will spoil and turn really, really nasty if you don’t. You have 5 days to a week before this will be necessary. Less time in hot weather.

Finally, what sounds silly but really is critical to your happiness and comfort: vacuum the house and do laundry right now!


642 posted on 08/25/2011 12:17:28 PM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: NautiNurse
Great to have you with us for the long weekend

Is the "no singing on the thread" rule still in force?

643 posted on 08/25/2011 12:22:13 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: NautiNurse
Great to have you with us for the long weekend

Is the "no singing on the thread" rule still in force?

644 posted on 08/25/2011 12:22:27 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I know. And Delaware officials are telling visitors to not bother coming this weekend. I was planning on going to Dover tomorrow.


645 posted on 08/25/2011 12:27:29 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: numberonepal
feel like I'm a magnet anyway:

where do you live NOW?

646 posted on 08/25/2011 12:27:55 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: mware

Don’t forget to fill your tub..for flushing..or other none drinking but water needed.


647 posted on 08/25/2011 12:32:03 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: don-o
Is the "no singing on the thread" rule still in force?

If the lights go out, does it really matter?

648 posted on 08/25/2011 12:33:14 PM PDT by NautiNurse (TSA Tit for Tat--Yukari Mihamae--thank you!)
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To: who knows what evil?

fill your tubs,as well.


649 posted on 08/25/2011 12:34:43 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Romulus

My parents used the big giant plastic garbage cans. Dad got them the day before Katrina hit. Get the kind with secure lids and you can store them outside in the garage. Kiddie pools might work too if you have a basement or somewhere to store them w/o their spilling and making a mess. I put plastic wrap over the drains on my tubs when I use them to store water. That way a slow leak doesn’t hurt you long term.

Be like Jerry Brown and you won’t have a problem.

I have to agree about the laundry. Do it now. It may be a while before you can do it again. Don’t start out a crisis with a pile of stinky laundry.

Get playing cards, board games, paperback books and embroidery if you do it. You may be bored. Very bored.

We got 5 or 6 loaves of bread and a flat of peanut butter (I was postpartum, it was the only thing I really liked right then. Can’t remember what hubby ate). Tortillas would work too.


650 posted on 08/25/2011 12:34:49 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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