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On the Nature of the Perry Attacks
http://www.redstate.com ^ | Saturday, August 20th | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/20/2011 4:50:00 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

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To: Ditter

sorry typo “What” about......


51 posted on 08/20/2011 6:04:39 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: RoosterRedux
The truth is the people want anyone who has an ounce of common sense and who can beat Obama.
For many...that is looking like Perry!

Maybe that's the truth in your world, but Free Republic is a conservative forum, so we're looking for the best "conservative" to beat Obama and Governor Perry is just now being vetted.

Seems to me that his biggest hurdle (should he win the nomination after the Marathon Primary Season) would be whether the electorate at large would be ready to send another Texas Governor to the White House only 4 short years after President Bush....?

52 posted on 08/20/2011 6:04:50 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

LOL! You are goooood!


53 posted on 08/20/2011 6:08:01 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: HerrBlucher
Gov. Perry Announces TEF Investment in Solar Power Company

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today announced the state will invest $1 million through the Texas Enterprise Fund (TEF) in HelioVolt Corp. of Austin for the construction of a 125,000 square foot manufacturing facility and development space to test and produce the company’s thin-film solar power cells, which convert sunlight into electricity. The deal will create nearly 160 jobs and $62 million in capital investment.

HelioVolt Corp. puts off growth. Plant is ready but demand not there yet

After months of stealthy operations, solar cell maker HelioVolt Corp. has delayed by two years its job creation projections.

Gov. Rick Perry: Wind Energy Keeps Texas' Air Clean and Our Future Bright

Texas doesn't just believe in the potential of wind energy, we are reaping its benefits already. People who talk about wind energy as a technology of the future clearly haven't been to West Texas lately: the future of wind energy in Texas is now. I probably don't need to spend too much time talking about the benefits of wind energy to a bunch of people who specialize in this remarkable technology, but a few things really stand out for me. I am proud that our state's installed wind generation capacity leads the nation, a place we did not reach by accident.

(snip)

Just last year, nearly $3 billion worth of wind-powered electric generators were installed, twice as much as any other state. This addition of more than 1,600 megawatts of capacity bumped up our total wind capacity by 59 percent. And the hits keep on coming. For example, this afternoon, one of the world's largest manufacturers of alternative energy equipment is announcing a new research facility here in Houston. And I recently got word that Hill Country Wind Power has acquired the Wind Turbine Company and is moving their manufacturing operations from Bellevue, Washington to the Lone Star state. With progress like this, I am confident we'll hit the next milestone, 10,000 megawatts, or 10% of our current capacity, well before the deadline in 2025.

54 posted on 08/20/2011 6:09:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: onyx
Heheh...are you saying I am a newbie?

As a long time lurker, I have you at a disadvantage.

I know you (I know your husband is a psychiatrist).

Don't be a bully. You don't own conservatism...FR doesn't own it either.

All that said, I have always had great respect for you and your opinion matters greatly to me and many other lurkers.

As for Perry, he isn't new to me. I know his positions and his tenacity. He has infinitely more experience than Sarah.

I know you are wise...I remember your input back in the Natalee Hollaway threads. I am humbled to be able to speak with you.

55 posted on 08/20/2011 6:15:30 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

“The truth is the people want anyone who has an ounce of common sense and who can beat Obama.
For many...that is looking like Perry!”

I hear ya... I just don’t think we need to settle for a poser. There are better candidates, but Perry is sucking up the spotlight. Flashy, but not much substance there.

I’ve heard fellow Texans say, paraphrasing, “We know he’s an empty suit, but he’s OUR empty suit.” Ick.


56 posted on 08/20/2011 6:15:52 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: RoosterRedux

I am a Palin supporter too, and like Sarah Palin, I also like Perry, overall anyway. He does have more warts than Sarah but not enough to toss him out. I am puzzled that so many Palin supporters are so willing to use the same tactics to bash Perry as the anti palin’s use to bash Sarah.

But it doesn’t really matter, the election will take its course no matter what happens here at FR, it always has and it always will.


57 posted on 08/20/2011 6:16:11 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Para-Ord.45

http://www.freeandjust.org/Events.htm#halal
Texas Halal Law Signing Ceremony with Governor Rick Perry

Halal food, is PART of Sharia law.

the food is killed, after a prayer to ALLAH.
it is meat sacrificed in the NAME of Allah.

this should be on the label of ALL halal meat,
because many Christians believe it is wrong,
to eat food sacrificed in the name of another god!


58 posted on 08/20/2011 6:20:38 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ViLaLuz
And I hear you...if Perry hits an unrecoverable bump in the road, I am back to square one.

I love Sarah, but we have got to win this thing or the country is DONE!

BTW, I do believe Sarah will be president eventually...if the country is still here.

59 posted on 08/20/2011 6:20:53 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: cripplecreek

Well, I am not going to get into a pissing match with you, I have looked at Perry’s record, good, bad, and ugly, and have decided that the good outweighs the bad and the ugly. You have decided otherwise, so be it. The point of my original post is that anyone can be selectively bashed You have responded with selective bashing, oh well.


60 posted on 08/20/2011 6:21:39 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: HerrBlucher

Well I’ll just be right there to remind you that anything Obammy said more than a few years ago is off limits per your rules.


61 posted on 08/20/2011 6:24:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: HerrBlucher
I'm with ya...if it's Sarah, I will work my butt off for her. Same for Perry.

IMHO, two great Americans cut from the same cloth.

Yes, there are differences and fine points...but this election is about saving the country from radicals, not about fine points.

May the best man/woman win!

62 posted on 08/20/2011 6:25:32 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Elendur

Yeah ... ok ...


63 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:14 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only Conservative who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: PMAS
maybe Rove and the others want Palin to get in the race so Perry and Palin split the conservatives and Romney wins the nomination.

That's what I am thinking. And Sarah can understand this as well.

64 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:29 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
So Redstate.com has decided to slime real pro-American Conservatives.

To be expected. It was just a matter of time until Redstate went over to the Commies and their running dog lackeys.

No, nobody here smears Perry about being a Texan. The guy was a Democrat who decided to support AlGore just as Ronald Reagan's program for defeating the Soviet Union came to its full power.

That is an unforgiveable sin. Rove should have reconsidered the idea of bringing that guy into what appears to be "too big a Republican umbrella".

65 posted on 08/20/2011 6:28:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: icanhasbailout

>>But of course you know that these are not the nature of the objections to Perry at all, but in fact a strawman specifically concocted to avoid the real issues with Perry - Gardasil, TTC, being pro-illegal, his spotty at best understanding of the Constitution, and the Brazilification of Texas, among others.<<

Exactly, these issues were conveniently not mentioned.

Wonder why not?


66 posted on 08/20/2011 6:32:21 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: don-o

The Mitbots can count on no more than 10% of the vote. With 90% left to split up among other serious candidates, you can have 8 of them show up with more delegates than Mit.


67 posted on 08/20/2011 6:32:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Was Reagan not a Democrat at one time ? They both came over to the right side .
Rove is now trying to derail Perry because Perry went rogue a long time ago .


68 posted on 08/20/2011 6:38:08 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only Conservative who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: cripplecreek

No it is not, absolutely not, but even Obama deserves the consideration of context. Had he genuinely changed his ways from his commie past then I would give him slack for that. Or, if he had done a lot of good along with the bad, I would give him slack for that too. But he hasn’t so he gets no slack.


69 posted on 08/20/2011 6:41:50 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: CowboyJay

That is so fing funny. You are clearly the post of the day by a million miles.


70 posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:30 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: HerrBlucher

LOL OK whatever.


71 posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, whatever.


72 posted on 08/20/2011 6:44:55 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Elendur
3) DEFEND US AGAINST ISLAM AND SHARIA.

With what? A bunch of empty rhetoric like the other candidates? Talk is cheap. It doesn't help Perry to be friends with Aga Khan. Khan is some sort of King and power broker and Perry is at least sucking up to him. But that doesn't mean Perry is a stealth muslim like Obama. It doesn't mean that the floodgates will be opened under Perry and certainly doesn't mean they won't be opened under some other candidate.

73 posted on 08/20/2011 6:46:13 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Well sheesh. Let's just cancel the primaries. You seem to have it all wrapped up. You are something else. Yes I know you said in my humble opinion. But still that is so dang arrogant. Hillary was all ready to be President in 2008 at this time. And people here were having orgasms about Fred Thompson. None of that played out. Who would have thought McCain would have won????? Nobody here for sure. So until the very last person drops out and only one candidate is left........nobody knows who will be the nomination. Heck not even all the candidates have announced yet. Just wait and see. This book has a ton more chapters.
74 posted on 08/20/2011 6:49:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Elendur
Regarding: "Reagan and Bachmann were also once Democrats. i haven’t seen ANYONE make an issue of that. ...that’s a straw man argument."

Neither Reagan nor Bachmann ran for office as Democrats against the Republicans.

That makes a really big difference.

I'm finding a lot of Perry supporters have difficulty differentiating in their minds between VOTERS and POLITICIANS.

That's a very bad sign.

75 posted on 08/20/2011 6:49:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RoosterRedux
It is the RINO Perry who needs to hold off until 2016
(not yet) so he can get conservative cred.


76 posted on 08/20/2011 6:53:39 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: napscoordinator

77 posted on 08/20/2011 6:56:10 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
Ronaldus Magnus never ran for public office as a Democrat.

Rick Perry ran for office and won several times as a professional Democrat politician.

We really don't need RINOs anymore.

78 posted on 08/20/2011 6:58:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: onyx; HerrBlucher; RoosterRedux
I don't worry so much about whether he will look or sound like George Bush, but I am seriously worried about Perry's seeming weakness on illegal immigration. He's flirted with La Raza, shown the propensity to be an open borders guy, said he didn't like the new AZ law, and is way too close to Bush's angle on illegals for my comfort zone.

I don't just want a good candidate, I want a president I can trust in this fragile time.

79 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:02 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Tempest

I’m beginning to think most of the anti-Perry posters are DU trolls


80 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:23 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Tempest

But temp, what if someone pointed out that ronpaul was a larryflint wannbe and both soros and the russians were financing ronpauls campaign, besides being an absolute loon?


81 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:25 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: muawiyah

That is laughable. Texas is one of the most conservative states in the USA. Perry is the most conservative politician currently holding statewide office in Texas. Perry is the most conservative Governor in the USA.

Bottom line - if you are attacking Perry, you might be a troll


82 posted on 08/20/2011 7:02:51 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

Hey, you just convinced me that most of the pro-Perry posters are registered Democrats.


83 posted on 08/20/2011 7:03:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Nice try, won’t fly ... A Conservative Democrat in Conservative Texas that had long been dominated by Conservative Democrat politics ...


84 posted on 08/20/2011 7:05:31 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only Conservative who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
BS, Lyndon Baines Johnson was hardly a conservative by any standard. He was your Senator!

You people have vivid imaginations and imagine you are really Conservative and then you give instate tuition to illegal aliens while denying it to Americans

Sorry ~ to be a real conservative you must be consistently patriotic and loyal to the United States.

85 posted on 08/20/2011 7:08:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Other Democrats who changed to Republican:

Phil Gramm
John Connally
Ronald Reagan
James Baker
Sonny Perdue
Condoleeza Rice
Jesse Helms
Michelle Bachmann

If you’re calling Perry a RINO for changing party affiliation, you’re calling all of the above RINOs. Go back to DU.


86 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:34 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

Oh you arrogant person you. Perry is NOT the most conservative governor in the U.S. You have SC, VA, WI, FL, PA and many more that are way more conservative than Perry. You are screaming things that are not even 1/2 truths. Oh and I am not a DU guy so save your breath. I want a real conservative and Perry is not that person.


87 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Diogenesis

Executive experience ? Palin quit before serving out her term .. she lost an immense amount of credibility and support with that unwise move .


88 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:49 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only Conservative who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: Arec Barrwin

You are funny.

You use the same logic as the RomneyBOTs.
Identical.

Must be another Rove-planned RINOhood.


89 posted on 08/20/2011 7:11:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux
The truth is the people want anyone who has an ounce of common sense and who can beat Obama.

Inclined to agree, look what happened when the purists stayed home in 2008, we got The Won.

90 posted on 08/20/2011 7:12:10 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Neu Pragmatist
Sorry. No sale. No RINOs. No more.


91 posted on 08/20/2011 7:13:53 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Tempest

Palin DID quit her governorship
Palin DOES have a 50 - 60% disapproval rating
Palin DID support the Bridge to Nowhere before she opposed it


92 posted on 08/20/2011 7:14:28 PM PDT by RockinRight (The ObamAA+ Downgrade)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Your boy is asking for the highest accolade ~ to run as our candidate for President.

Sorry, he sc....d the pooch back when he took on being the Algore's chairman in Texas.

That is simply unforgivable.

Regarding the others, Gramm, Connally, Baker, Perdue, Rice and Helms didn't go on to run for President ~ and Bachmann made the big switch in her fourth year of college ~ long before getting into politics in any respect.

We used to need RINOs to run in the Souf' ~ you people shot or hanged 30,000 Republicans in fact, so it could be tough.

These days we don't need them.

Ronald Reagan NEVER ran for public office as a Democrat. He was not a RINO.

93 posted on 08/20/2011 7:15:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RockinRight

I think you’d get a 90% disapproval rating yourself on this forum! Get moving!


95 posted on 08/20/2011 7:17:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Lakeshark

He seems to be all over the place on illegals, that concerns me too, but not enough to reject him. Sarah has the luxury of not having to govern in a border state (well canada to the south but that is not the same) so while her stance on illegals appears to be better she has not actually had to put it in action. She has also been unfairly (I believe) bashed for past statements about illegals....something about her believing in a path to citizenship blah blah blah. The bottom line is, no matter who is president we really need a tea party house and senate to keep them in check.

Lets face it, its Perry or Palin, and as far as I am concerned, that puts us in reasonably good shape against the commies.


96 posted on 08/20/2011 7:17:57 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: napscoordinator

The Governors in WI and NJ are far Leftwingtards compared to the Governors of IN and OH BTW. They have far to go to strip Union Power out of state government.


97 posted on 08/20/2011 7:18:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: napscoordinator

You’re 100% wrong. I apologize for appearing arrogant, but I suspect you know I’m right and that’s why you are lashing out.

1. Perry has done far, far more on tort reform than any other Governor. That’s a fact. He enacted Proposition 12 on med mal lawsuits and just passed legislation limiting frivolous lawsuits by levying some fees on plaintiffs and allowing meritless suits to be dismissed early in the process.

2. Perry signed the sonogram law mandating sonograms prior to abortions.

3. Texas has the best business climate in the USA, per Forbes, S&P, etc.

4. Perry has the best record against the intrusion of the EPA in the country. Perry is suing the Environmental Protection Agency on behalf of Texas over its December decision to regulate greenhouse gases as a pollutant.

I could go on and on and on. I’m right.


98 posted on 08/20/2011 7:19:49 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Diogenesis

She quit ! Please tell us why she quit ...


99 posted on 08/20/2011 7:19:53 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Rick Perry is the only Conservative who can defeat Romney and Obama)
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To: Para-Ord.45

A relative and I were discussing this just the other day and came to the conclusion that the inside the beltway ‘Pubs like Rove sense they will be shut out if a Perry or some other outsider gets elected. It scares and angers them. Their importance will melt like snow cones in the Texas sun and their influence and big paychecks will disappear too. They want Romney, probably already have the promise of a job.


100 posted on 08/20/2011 7:20:23 PM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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