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To: BladeBryan
Imagine my surprise to get excuses instead of the requested citations.

I suspect every day is a surprise for you. Failure to comply is not an excuse, it is an expression of apathy to your concerns mixed with contemptuous defiance.

And lots of people disagreed with the Court on Bush v. Gore. That disagreement had no effect on who was president.

And the only people that even REMEMBER that are Wackjob democrat nuts. I'm not surprised at your mention of it. The truth is, GORE LOST! He didn't get enough votes! Get over it!

So under your theory, professors of constitutional law at top universities, the editors of /Black Law Dictionary/, the referees of esteemed peer-reviewed legal journals, and the judges of the Indianan Court of Appeals are the “ignorant and foolish”, while you are the astute legal mind that comprehends the distinction.

Once a false meme gets spread, it can makes fools out of University professors, editors, lawyers, (lawyers are a special class of fool anyway) and other saps. After the Supreme Court screwed up Wong Kim Ark, the rest of them fell in with that fallacy of authority.

Now consider my stated theory: The 14’th Amendment and the 1898 WKA decision settled the eligibility of the native-born. No one has to be ignorant or foolish for what they held before 1898, or about births prior to the 14’th Amendment. Back then both positions were viable.

The hole in your theory is that the Supreme Court got Wong Kim Ark wrong, and even in their wrong decision, did not make of him a "natural born citizen." If you read my theory, then you obviously failed to comprehend that "natural born citizen" doesn't mean a citizen "naturally" born anymore than Freedom of Speech means it's easy to make words.

You sound like those nitwits that argued that "right to keep and bear arms" meant you had the "right" to be part of the Federal Army. It took the Supreme court over two hundred years to notice the obvious in McDonald v Chicago. Quick to see the obvious they are not.

The people my theory considers ignorant and foolish are those who assert the citizen-parent requirement after that time, and I cannot find any until birthers jumped on it in October or November of 2008.

And again, something only a Democrat would give a crap about. Nobody cares what you think regarding WHEN this topic started. Till Bammy released his first fake birth certificate, nobody knew if he was going to have an American Father or not. After that, the focus was on the fact that he dodged showing REAL PROOF of who he was and where he was born.

Anyway, your idiot ranting reminded me of where a piece of information was. Is 1916 enough AFTER Wong Kim Ark for You?

This information involves a man named Breckinridge Long. ((1881-1958)An attorney and graduate of Washington University Law School who also served as ambassador to Italy as well as in the State Department under FDR) He challenged the eligibility of Charles Evan Hughes, who was the losing Presidential candidate in a race against Woodrow Wilson. Had he won, Breckinridge Long had promised to bring a lawsuit against him.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29744612/Breckinridge-Long-A-Natural-Born-Citizen-Within

Breckenridge long argues that Charles Evan Hughes could not be a "natural born citizen" as per Presidential qualifications because his FATHER was British. And guess what? It was BEFORE the election!

283 posted on 08/27/2011 5:05:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (1790 Congress: No children of a foreign father may be a citizen.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

DiogenesLamp wrote: “Anyway, your idiot ranting reminded me of where a piece of information was. Is 1916 enough AFTER Wong Kim Ark for You?”

I already answered that. I explained that quotes on your side are either, “so old that they’re talking about births before the 14t’h Amendment and its interpretation in the 1898 U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark decision, or so recent that they only appeared after Barack Obama was the frontrunner in the 2008 presidential campaigns.” I asked you for any citations that show me to be wrong on that.

DiogenesLamp wrote: “This information involves a man named Breckinridge Long. ((1881-1958)An attorney and graduate of Washington University Law School who also served as ambassador to Italy as well as in the State Department under FDR) He challenged the eligibility of Charles Evan Hughes, who was the losing Presidential candidate in a race against Woodrow Wilson.”

You might want to read before you cite. “Mr. Hughes was born before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, so the status of his citizenship must be considered as under the laws existing prior to the time of the adoption of that Amendment.” [Breckinridge Long, “Is Mr. Charles Evans Hughes a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ within the Meaning of the Constitution?”, Chicago Legal News vol 146, pp. 220-222]

Thank you for the citation supporting my position.


284 posted on 08/27/2011 9:45:11 PM PDT by BladeBryan
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