Skip to comments.APNewsBreak: Perry bills feds for housing illegals
Posted on 08/26/2011 5:07:22 PM PDT by PROCON
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Hey, it worked for the Budget too!
I'm sick of all this second guessing on Conservatism.
Conservatism is what it is, and there isn't RINO in Conservatism.
Actually, they won’t be living on “los freebies” anymore. Perry signed a new law at the end of the last session that now brings illegals in our prisons out of the prison system for deportation. Of course, his haters on this site will begin screaming he’s parolling illegals early. But they will now be deported, straight from prison to Ole Mehico, saving our state $250,000,000, presumably per year.
“OK, you anti-Perry types, he isn’t perfect, but you gotta like this. “
The guy has got game.
She’s going to announce her support for Perry in September.
Well done, Nico. Thanks for the post!
She’s for a border fence? In Alaska? Didn’t realize they had such a problem with illegals. Because I know she’s not for a border fence in Texas. She has enough sense to know that Texans do not want to be walled off from the Rio Grand River for NO GOOD REASON, starving those farmers’ crops and animals of water, destroying Big Bend, etc., etc., etc. She also knows, surely, that the illegals that enter Texas do it near civilizations so they do not DIE in the middle of nowhere — near civilizations that, thanks to Rick Perry, all have BORDER FENCES. Duh.
Clownish? Yep. That’s why he’s just “vaulted” to the top of the race.
No, dear. He’s done it from Day 1. It’s just that NOW people are talking about it...because he’s such a hot candidate right now. Think.
That’s funny you say that about Perry. I have known him all my life and was talking to my mother about what people are saying about him lately. She said, “You know, that’s one thing about Rick. He will always say what he means and mean what he says.” I know he has made some calls that people don’t like, but I also know there is more to the story than is being told about them, and what he has done for Texas (and learned in Texas) is exactly what we need to get our country back. You’re definitely entitled to your opinion and candidate, but I just wanted to throw that in there.
When you get into the voting booth next November, if the Choice is Perry or Obama or writing in a loon like Ron Paul, what will you do?
I thought the above was pretty clear. Read it real slow once again. I will sit home and drink a beer before I get conned, hoodwinked and lied to again. I'm not going to be party to that. I hope that's clear enough for ya. If not, read it several more times.
Show me some proof. I can't find any. According to article I've read Jan Brewer was the first earlier this year.
I will sit home and drink a beer before I get conned, hoodwinked and lied to again.Goodie, a perfectionist. You get exactly what you want or you quit. An summer soldier. Hope there is room in that Marlette for the empties.
collecting would be simple if someone had the balls to do it, just assess a payroll tax on ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES in the State and attach their personal assets to pay the costs of their ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR.
***giving illegals in-state tuition***
This is false. He is not giving them tuition. They have to pay for it - it’s just that they pay in-state rates vs. out-of-state rates.
***It would be a lot more impressive if he had been protecting the border and billing the feds for that.***
Why should Texas do the job the FedGov is mandated to do by the Constitution (provide for the common defense according to Article I, Section 8)? This is one of the few things the FedGov is actually *supposed* to do, but they have been negligent. Gov. Perry has asked to meet with Bozo on several occasions and he has refused. At one point, Gov. Perry had to intercept him on the tarmac in Austin to talk to him about this problem.
“Gov. Rick Perry’s meeting at the Austin airport with President Barack Obama on border security lasted a mere 34 seconds, and Perry had to hand a letter on the issue to presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett because Obama declined to personally accept it.”
And by the way, Arizona is trying to build a fence - on their own through donations to the public - because the FedGov is suing them over SB1070! I think Gov. Perry believes he doesn’t have the right to waste Texas’ resources fighting the inevitable lawsuit by the FedGov.
I really don’t care about the little pro perry circle jerk. Frankly you people are so completely without moral courage that you’re unworthy of the least respect.
Go ahead and lie to each other but I don’t want to hear the crap.
Whoa! I did not attack you or say anything rude to you. I merely posted an article refuting your statement. You owe me an apology for your rudeness and foul language.
I know now to henceforth apply the TROLL application to your posts, since you cannot handle civil discourse.
“What’s not to like about a song and dance man? Put him on the Ted Mack Amateur Hour but keep the RHINO out of my government.”
Palin supporter here, but look - you’ve got RINOitis of the brain. Around here, a RINO appears to be anything anybody wants to call it. Therefore I will say that Perry is NOT a RINO, just a manipulative politician.
If Palin doesn’t get in, then guess who is the conservative with the best chance to defeat the @$$h@t in the WH?
Bachmann? - lacks ability to confront the press; one dimensional; already starting to flipflop on the farm subsidies business. Nice lady with great views, but plain and simple not ready for prime time.
Paul? - great if you are or like a kook with a tinfoil hat; the GOPs answer to left-wing wackos. His supporters remind me of “The Night of the Living Dead”.
Romney? Smirks are filling the room.
Cain? Did that massive CAT 5 hurricane drown out his message? Uh, no he disappeared into the woodwork before that. Great views and a nice guy (but they finish last). He failed to get new tires so he lost traction.
Gingrich? Will need to sell Calista’s jewelry to pay for his idiotic campaign debts.
Santorum? Say sanitarium if you or he thinks he has a chance.
Rubio, Ryan, Bush III, Christie, Trump? Get real!
Perry? Pray tell fellow Palin supporters, where ya gonna go if she opts out? Spit it out! Belly up to the bar! $h!t or get off the pot! Plan B?
If Perry would cease educating, feeding, and housing the illegals that alone would stem some of the tide.
He’s such a hypocrite....belly aches to Washington about the border....while he caters to the illegals and invites and welcomes all to come into his state....sucks up the revenue from foreign country investors....then runs to the tax payers asking them to ‘secure’ his border so he can continue “safely” with his agneda to use foreigners as cheap labor for those very country investors he invites in.
Except the one who will not close his border....and caters to 'special treatment for Muslims'. Nope NO PERRY!
His first responsibility as Pres. would be the security of our nation against foreign invasion...Perry invites it and enables it in his state... I see no reason to think he'll do otherwise for our nation....though he's trying hard to "talk a good talk".
NCLR, you know, these people...
Yes. He’s a smart man.
I see, you think kissing up to La Raza is smart.
That makes you a traitor.
I see, you think kissing up to La Raza is smart.
You obviously have no idea how politics is played.
Lets consider your plan. La Raza calls and you curse them out as traitors and racists and slam down the phone. Who do you think gets the next phone call? If you guessed the Enemedia, you are right. Whose story is going to get printed and played over the air? And do you think that the spurned La Raza group is going to dial down the rhetoric, or are you going to be described as the next living breathing Hitler?
"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. - Sun Tzu
Illegals paying less than other Americans.
That is plain wrong.
Indeed I do. "The way politics is played" is exactly why we are in this mess.
Lets consider your plan. La Raza calls and you curse them out as traitors and racists and slam down the phone.
That's not my plan. That's your projection. The rest of your bogus post is your fantasy as built upon that dishonest projection.
You're not even a good job of it either. Your fantasy presupposes that the public at large cares what the media says compared to their desire to get rid of illegal aliens. Hence, I would LOVE to hear the media scream about my actual plan, as free PR letting the public know that I am doing what they want is exactly what I want. That is how Reagan "used" the media.
"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. - Sun Tzu
So, are you calling La Raza enemies? Let's "call the ENEMEDIA"!!!
Idiot. You either don't know what the context of Sun Tzu's maxim is about or, if you do, you are portraying it dishonestly. Under no circumstances are "enemies in our midst" a good thing.
Perry better start raising serious money for better help or the grass roots is going to kill him. As things are now, Perry is enjoying public ignorance about his real record, which won't last long I promise you. Your buddies in the media won't be able to keep that "fire-breathing conservative" fantasy about him going for long.
Carry? Are you all right? That was not my post. Don’t put words in my mouth like you do Perry, please.
What part of “in-state” vs. “out-of-state” do you not understand? That means there are “many Americans” (from the other 49 states) who will have to pay more than Texans to attend Texas schools. Out-of-state tuition for those who do not live in Texas has been the norm for decades.
Illegals are not Texans.
Get that through your RINO head.
P.S. I am not defending Gov. Perry’s decision. I just want everyone to know what it is - and what it is not. The children of illegal immigrants who were born here pay “in-state” tuition. They pay it; we do not pay it for them. It is “in-state” vs. “out-of-state.” Students from the other 49 states pay “out-of-state” tuition, and have for decades. I disagree with his decision - but I will disagree with him on what it actually is - not a fabrication or falsehood.
See my other reply. It would help if you know the facts about which you are posting.
You can apologize to me for your snarky remark.
Why do you think there is a difference between "in-state" and "out-of-state" tuition?
Is it because a) "in-state" tuition is less than the actual cost of that student's education
or b) "out-of-state" tuition exceeds the actual cost of the education and the government is making money off the deal?
If you correctly chose a), who do you think pays the difference?
My understanding is that “in-state” is the actual cost and that “out-of-state” is more than actual cost. This is the only scenario that makes sense. Texas universities are for Texans and those who are from out of state pay for the privilege to attend our schools.
Sarah would have never
Therein lies the basis for the disagreement. You are incorrect on all counts.
"In state" tuition is subsidized, to the tune of about $6,000 per student. That subsidy is paid for by taxpayers. The theory is that it is good to have an educated citizenry, for the greater good and all that jazz. So, by mandating that "in-state tuition" will apply to illegal aliens, Perry (and those who support the action) are mandating that the earnings of hardworking, taxpaying American citizens be used to subsidize the tuition of non-citizens, non-Americans. Take that $6,000 amount and multiply it by thousands of illegal alien students taking advantage of Perry's 'generosity' and you end up with tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars going to illegal aliens. When a whole lot of Americans are out of work and/or pinching pennies to take care of their own family, Government actions like this produce anger and frustration. That supporters of this policy have the gall to then call these law-abiding, tax-paying citizens racist or some other baseless perjorative only makes the issue worse.
Out of state tuition amounts more closely approach the real cost of that education -- but even that is subsidized somewhat by the taxpayer.
The bottom line shows how ridiculous this policy is from a 'follow the law' perspective: Texas is subsidizing the education of non-American illegal aliens who cannot even work in this country legally. How does that make any sense?
So tell me how you, a resident of California, know so much about how Texas calculates the “real cost of education?” Do you have an inside track to the Comptroller’s Office?
Please provide a link to the source of your information.
Most states subsidize higher education with taxpayer dollars. Texas is not unique in that regard. One does not need an "inside track to the Comptrollers Office" -- just read articles on the subject. Opposition to giving illegal aliens the benefit of subsidized tuition rates is also not unique to Texas. I suggest reading the rationale of those opposition groups to understand where the anger is coming from.
Here's a link from a bill to repeal Perry's generous law allowing illegal aliens to be considered legal residents for purposes of tuition. It indicates that $23 million of taxpayer dollars have gone to subsidize these students. Given the amount paid by the students, this analysis indicates illegal alien students are paying for less than 30% of their education expenses with the taxpayer picking up the tab for the rest.
Under current law, public institutions of higher education provide reduced resident tuition rates for some students who are not lawfully present in the state. Considering the current budget shortfall, added with the fact that these students will not be eligible for legal employment in the United States upon graduation, the state could better allocate these resources. In December 2010, the House Research Organization issued a report that estimated, based on figures from the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (THECB), that "the state allocated about $23.6 million in direct aid for these students in fiscal 2009, including funding allocated to institutions and financial aid," whereas these students only "paid a net total of about $9.5 million out of pocket for higher education in fiscal 2009." --snip--
To quote you, "You can apologize to me for your snarky remark."
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