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Christian Professor Claims Genetics Disproves Historical Adam
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 8-26-11 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 08/27/2011 10:07:19 AM PDT by fishtank

National Public Radio recently interviewed Trinity Western University biologist Dennis Venema, who stated his belief that humans did not descend from Adam and Eve.1 Venema, an evangelical evolutionist, claimed that genetics studies show "there is no way we can be traced back to a single couple."2 Do the data really contradict the biblical account of human history?

"Given the genetic variation of people today, [Venema] says scientists can't get that [starting] population size below 10,000 people at any time in our evolutionary history," NPR reported.2 But this claim fails for three reasons. First, it relies on the presumption of "evolutionary history," not scientific data. Second, the idea that an initial group of 10,000 humans evolved from primates is mathematically impossible. Third, a descent from Adam and Eve actually does explain the patterns in modern human genetics....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; evolution; gagdadbob; genetics; genome; helixmakemineadouble; notanewstopic; onecosmosblog
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More political/Marxist attempts from the evolutionists to obscure the truth ...

Thank you ICR for your work!

1 posted on 08/27/2011 10:07:22 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

I believe in the Biblical Story of Creation AND I believe in Evolution. They are NOT mutually exclusive (Smiling as I toss a grenade!)


2 posted on 08/27/2011 10:10:35 AM PDT by ZULU (Chris Wallace is a flake.)
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To: fishtank
Another "Christian" denying God and the Bible.

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matthew 7:21-23)

We know the future of the "Christian" professor. God's word will be vindicated, and everyone will stand before Him and give an account.

3 posted on 08/27/2011 10:15:20 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking...." (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: ZULU

I would honestly like to see a few articles or references to this point of view.

P.S. I’m familiar with Hugh Ross’s work already ...


4 posted on 08/27/2011 10:15:30 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ZULU

same here...


5 posted on 08/27/2011 10:17:36 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: ZULU

I agree with you. Nobody I know has ever asked God how long one of his days was.

I can live with that.


6 posted on 08/27/2011 10:18:33 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ZULU

“I believe in the Biblical Story of Creation AND I believe in Evolution. They are NOT mutually exclusive (Smiling as I toss a grenade!)”

So Adam was accidentally created by god who shall remain nameless? LOL!


7 posted on 08/27/2011 10:19:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ZULU

Book II “Question of the phase in which the moon was made” 15, 30

“God, after all is the author and founder of things in their actual natures. Now whatever any single thing may in some way or other produce and unfold by its natural development through periods of time that are suited to it, it contained it beforehand as something hidden, if not in specific forms and bodily mass, at least by the force and reckoning of nature, unless of course a tree, void of fruit and stripped of its leaves throughout the winter, is then to be called imperfect, or unless again at its origins, when it had still not yet borne any fruit, its nature was also imperfect. It is not only about the tree, but about its seed also that this could not rightly be said; there everything that with the passage of time is somehow or other going to appear is already latent in invisible ways. Although, if God were to make anything imperfect, which he then would himself bring to perfection, what would be reprehensible about such an idea? But you would be quite within your rights to disapprove if what had been begun by him were said to be completed and perfected by another.”

—Augustine, “On the Literal Interpretation of Genesis”, ca. A.D. 401-415


8 posted on 08/27/2011 10:23:53 AM PDT by Claud
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To: ZULU

Then you might like...

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Eve-Danny-Glover/dp/B00006AUH1


9 posted on 08/27/2011 10:24:48 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: fishtank

He ain’t that Christian. “Adam” means first man. there had to have been one...........


10 posted on 08/27/2011 10:28:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; ZULU

Since Hulu didn’t specify what he meant, you made up your own obtuse and mal-informed logic in an effort to humiliate him?

Should we make up things and pretend you said them?

The answer is “no, because it wouldn’t be Christian.”


11 posted on 08/27/2011 10:30:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Creationists should know this one ~ did God install the Heart first, or the Liver?


12 posted on 08/27/2011 10:31:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PeteB570

“But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day.” 2 Peter 3:8.


13 posted on 08/27/2011 10:33:21 AM PDT by Claud
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To: ZULU
I believe in the Biblical Story of Creation AND I believe in Evolution. They are NOT mutually exclusive

I think the biggest problem in the discussion of GOD and EVOLUTION is that the term EVOLUTION is only loosely defined and understood by the public, and is misused in debate and conversation. Most likely the term GOD is loosely defined and misused as well.

14 posted on 08/27/2011 10:35:10 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jack Hydrazine; ZULU

“So Adam was accidentally created by god who shall remain nameless? LOL!”

I don’t believe ZULU said that... Your part of the problem.


15 posted on 08/27/2011 10:36:10 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: ZULU

I believe in micro evolution, but not macro evolution.


16 posted on 08/27/2011 10:37:15 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: UCANSEE2; ZULU

17 posted on 08/27/2011 10:37:36 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Keep the 'ICk" in Democratic)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think God created the laws of biology and physics and made everything out of nothing ( The Big Bang). I believe he directs the actions of things here on earth - both with respect to evolutionary processes and, at times, the activities - and punishments of mankind when we disobey him.


18 posted on 08/27/2011 10:38:07 AM PDT by ZULU (Chris Wallace is a flake.)
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To: fishtank

There’s always some dolt that attempts to revamp the Adam and Eve Descendant Theory, without any verifiable scientific evidence, at all? They all just wail away in the mire, so to speak, and eventually fall by the wayside? God and his minions always rule here and disbelievers just waste away into obscurity??


19 posted on 08/27/2011 10:38:42 AM PDT by zbogwan2
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To: muawiyah
Creationists should know this one ~ did God install the Heart first, or the Liver?

Better question. Did GOD create VIRUSES or PROKARYOTES first, and why?

20 posted on 08/27/2011 10:39:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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