Posted on 08/28/2011 6:28:09 AM PDT by kelsiejackson
I live three miles from the ocean in South Jersey and we did not lose power all night. I’ve seen Nor easter’s worse than this . Next time they are told to evacuate a lot more residents are going to say SCREW you.
LOL, hope Shelby doesn’t jump into a 5’ snow drift!
Like so many folks in New Orleans? The problem with hurricanes is that they are unpredictable. It takes time to evacuate people. If you wait until you are sure you need to evacuate, guess what? It will be too late.
> I think we are all pulling for you and are most happy you
> didn’t get hit with a major hurricane. Yay!
Right now, rain is falling at more than an inch an hour. This afternoon, we will be expecting heavier rain and gusts up to 80mph. We are not out of the woods, yet. Our ground is already saturated, and the water has no place to go except in our streets and basements.
I was in Texas just a week ago. I know what you in the Southwest are going through. I wish we could share some of this rain with you, because you sure need it more than we do.
If I had the power, I’d give you guys a gentle, somewhat steady rain for a couple days per week.
Exactly correct!!! The weather service, the politicians and the mainstream media lost a lot of credibility today.
At one point Irene was a Cat-4 hurricane but it was downgraded to a Cat-1 before it came ashore in the Carolinas. At that point in time, the weather service should have dialed back its predictions of destruction.
Everytime you had hurricanes in Florida, I sympathized with Florida residents. I supported hurricane threads then and wouldn't have thought of criticizing them.
“You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.” — Rahm Emanuel
“If you need a crisis and do not have one, create it.” — Progressive Play Book
I’m in MA, Irene hasn’t officially arrived yet but we’ve got 50k people without power, subway shutdown, Logan is open but no flights in or out, Amtrack has suspended service. I heard there are transformers exploding in other states. Storm is over Manhattan moving @ 26mph - we’ve got tree limbs down on my street, fire engines running all over town, not sure why, trees? or car accidents? med issues? haven’t heard a vehicle come down my street since 1am.
It is...Today...
As of August 2, there were 12 drought related deaths in Dallas alone. There were 9 in Tulsa alone. Some crazy parents here in Dallas withheld water from a 10 year old kid for wetting the bed, and he died last week. I have heard very little on the national news about the severe drought we've had in Texas and Oklahoma...it's killing people every single day. We have thunderstorms in the Spring down here that kill more people and have stronger winds and rain and hail than Irene had. We suffer in silence, because of the kind of people we are. We're in fly-over country down here. We're not the 'special class' out on the coast. I'm sorry about the deaths from the storm, but the media hype is most definitely there, and the people of NY and the east coast ought to be embarrassed by it. There is a whole big country out there beyond Pennsylvania, ya know...
“Fox News has been disparaging all the passers by as if they are stupid dolts, folks jogging down the boardwalk and so on.”
Mocking people for thinking for themselves - controlling their own minds - making their own judgements. Can’t have a population filled with people who determine their own destinies. Stay on the reservation and the plantation. Listen to your masters.
Now Shep is showing us the rescue of some people who “refused” to evacuate. One boat rescuing one family and we don’t even know why. Maybe it’s someone who wanted to leave but couldn’t? All Shep has is a video - he’s filling in the blanks inferring it was someone who refused to evacuate but he doesn’t know that. They rode them in a boat about 20 feet.
In other knews, Obama is deeply disappointed he didn’t get to be master and commander in a Katrina style hurricane. He was hoping to score some points. I bet he’s sorry he left Martha’s Vineyard where he left his wife & kids. They are probably laughing at him for over-reacting.
I believe we can tell from the various posts who relies most heavily on the national media rather than just looking out the window.
11 deaths from the Hurricane? I know the first few reported were auto accidents - and I recall one was someone who drove too fast through standing water and crashed into a tree. Another was a heart attack while putting plywood on windows. To my recollection one death - the 11 year old kid who was killed when a tree fell into his apartment could legitimately be attributed to the hurricane.
Before the flaming I own a home just north of Daytona Beach. I have every insurance known to man on the place. I have actually lived through two category 2 hurricanes (not at my current house) - yes they are windy and noisy and all that but with preparation we were fine.
The news media and weather services are of the opinion that people are too stupid to take care of themselves so they keep hammering the hype on everyone.
So far this year we have been lucky to escape certain death from Coronal Mass Ejections, “severe” thunderstorms, meteor showers, and gamma ray beams from distant stars. Not to mention the end of the earth predictions.
Its as if these agencies and the news media can’t wait for the next big event - even if not so big.
THIS is EXACTLY what will happen. In south florida, we watched as Hurricane David teased us, then went away, then a few other close calls that were treated like the coming end of the world. By the time that little storm Andrew came around, the populace was jaded, and met the storm with a yawn, until it brought its 165 mph winds on shore and devastated the area. And yes, I was one of those jaded who stayed at home. It was nothing short of a miracle that more people did not die that day. But certainly, this hyping breeds future complacency.
Oops, I saw some new news and I should revise my numbers:
TWO people died in separate car accidents (not necessarily direct hurricane related), but still driving when they shouldn’t have - stupid.
The boy was out of the apartment when he shouldn’t have been - stupid parents.
A surfer was killed in Florida - stupid.
A swimmer in the surf in New Jersey was killed - stupid.
A man died of a heart attack boarding up his house - not stupid, but not truly hurricane induced.
A man in Virginia was outside feeding his animals when he was hit by a falling limb - stupid.
The last two (or three depending on the reports) were killed while in their homes - true hurricane deaths. Again, not much different than the casualty count of a strong line of thunderstorms.
As I said, this is not a catastrophe.
FYI hurriances don’t normally come this far up the coast and we are not used to 65mph winds. I have tree limbs all over my street, yesterday the wind speed was 3mph today it’s a lot higher. This is serious business, transformers exploding, tornadoes on top of hurricane conditions, etc. You can poo poo it all you want, but this is no joke.
Westbrook among many on this thread are probably hurricane virgins so the first time is so special to them...LOL
Having lived though an Andrew and several CAT 3 storms in Florida I'm sort of chuckling at all this Irene drama.
Go though a Andrew and every other hurricane is a walk in the park...
It was a wild night here, and I wish you the best. Everyone is waiting for the rivers to flood.
> Maybe we could ask someone from Tuscaloosa, AL about storms
> that are over in a few minutes....
There are regional differences in weather disaster by type. Some times one region is battered harder than another. Then it turns around.
Difference is, we not only pray for you all, but we often volunteer to help with the reconstruction. We never dismiss your weather extremes or minimize your losses. At least nobody I know does.
The last big major outage we had here was an ice storm about two years ago. Some folks up here in NH and Maine were without power for more than a month.
We got a lot of help from Canada with putting the grid back together. Not so much from the feds or our southern neighbors.
One of the worst case weather scenarios is a strong hurricane hitting making landfall in NYC form the south east/south. This track was projected for Irene back when she was over the Bahamas as a very large and very powerful hurricane. Early on the concern was certainly warranted. As the days passed and all models converged on the worst case track, concern grew justifiably.
But then a miracle happened, right before land fall in N.C. Irenes’ eye wall collapsed. Without an eye wall Irene was just a large disorganized mass of wind and ran. Yeah high winds and lots of rain but no longer really a hurricane. Everyone that knows tropical storms knew that with Irenes’ eye wall collapsed, over land in N.C. and ingesting dry continental air she would not be the Big One for NYC. All that happened 2 days before Irene hit NYC.
My worry is Irene could affect people in the N.E. like Rita effected the people of Houston and south on the Golf coast. After Rita everyone was saying “never again will I evacuate.” One should not cry wolf without there being a wolf about. The north east deals with bad nor-easters all the time. Which post N.C. is pretty much what Irene was.
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