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Mid-Hudson Valley gripped by Tropical Storm Irene's deluge; flooding, high winds throughout region
Times Herald-record Middletown, NY ^ | 8/28/11 | Staff

Posted on 08/28/2011 3:34:35 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Tropical Storm Irene is hitting the Hudson Valley region hard, with flooding, downed trees and road closures reported across the region.

The storm, which was downgraded from a Category 1 hurricane as it reached Long Island, brought winds of 30-40 mph to the region. Those winds have knocked over trees and power lines, while heavy rains have flooded many of the region's major thoroughfares.

The most important of these thoroughfares, the New York Thruway was closed at around 11 a.m. at the Route 17 exchange. At noon, Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered the closing of the Tappan Zee Bridge, though as of 12:30 p.m., all major mid-Hudson bridges remain open.

Significant flooding has been reported I-87 southbound near Tuxedo, where emergency workers were dispatched to rescue occupants in a vehicle. Several reports of flooding at the ramps of the New York State Thruway and I-84 were being reported, as well as flooding across the westbound portion of I-84 between exits 4 and 3.

Over 25,000 homes in Ulster County were without power, according to Central Hudson. The heaviest concentrations of outages include: Woodstock, Bearsville, Hurley and Olive. So far, no major power outages are being reported in Orange or Sullivan counties. And the number of outages in Orange and Sullivan counties are growing. Orange and Rockland Utilities are reporting some communities are experiencing a handful of outages, including households in Middletown, Goshen, Highland Lake and Wurtsboro.

Fulton Avenue in Middletown is one of the more severe examples of flooding. Fulton and Wawayanda road, near the Middletown Post Office, is awash in two feet of storm water. Police have the roads blocked off. And there are reports of occupied vehicles floating down Fulton.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: hurricaneirene; irene
Strangely, here in Port Jervis, NY the flooding isn't as bad as it could have been as of this afternoon. Normally we get the worst of these storms.
1 posted on 08/28/2011 3:34:43 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Isn’t the Tappan Zee Bridge about ready to fall down due to poor construction techniques?


2 posted on 08/28/2011 3:39:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

The bridge is structurally sound, but apparently obsolete. There’s plans floating around to replace it.


3 posted on 08/28/2011 3:44:29 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

I thought I read that a bunch of the pilings are wooden and rotting.


4 posted on 08/28/2011 3:45:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Yeah, but supposedly NYDOT inspects and repairs/replaces the piling as needed.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 3:47:30 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa
I wuz just reviewing web info on the bridge (which I used to cross back in the day) and see that the deck is 6" and being selectively upgraded to 10" too.

We're both old. ;-)

6 posted on 08/28/2011 3:53:26 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Impala64ssa

I don’t mean to belitle the problems this storm has caused, but 30 to 40 mph winds?

We get that everytime there’s a fast moving thunderstorm going throught the area. 60 mph gusts happen realitively frequently.

What am I missing here that makes this exceptional?


7 posted on 08/28/2011 3:58:49 PM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: Nonsense Unlimited; Impala64ssa
What am I missing here that makes this exceptional?

Rain soaked ground. 30 to 40 mph sustained wind will take a tree over. And has.

8 posted on 08/28/2011 4:05:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks DJ.
Here in our little neck of the woods our ground is basically sand. Even torrential rain leaves no lasting impression for more than about an hour.
I can imagine that a super-saturated, water holding soil would cause the trees to topple over in what I would consider moderate winds.

Prayers to all affected by the storm.


9 posted on 08/28/2011 4:12:37 PM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: Nonsense Unlimited
You're welcome.

It is a head scratcher until you think about it.

10 posted on 08/28/2011 4:25:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

It blows 30 - 40 here in Maui EVERY DAMM DAY!!! Tree’s and power lines don’t fall down. And the ground is soaked ‘cause it rains EVERY DAMM NIGHT!!!


11 posted on 08/28/2011 4:25:28 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: 1FreeAmerican; Nonsense Unlimited

It’s probably DIFFERENT DAMN SOIL.


12 posted on 08/28/2011 4:32:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 1FreeAmerican; Nonsense Unlimited

Wait a minute. Are you telling me that it rains 7 to 10 inches in Maui every night?


13 posted on 08/28/2011 4:37:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Mostly only thin layer of top soil - clay-ish or sand type. Otherwise it’s a BIG DAMM ROCK!!!


14 posted on 08/28/2011 4:45:02 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: DJ MacWoW

Forgot the sarcasm tag. However the West Maui mountains avg. 400 inches a year. Haiku to Hana 100 - 200 inches. Thats the windward sides. The lee sides Kihei to Kaupo 7 inches.


15 posted on 08/28/2011 4:50:56 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: 1FreeAmerican

Our ground got so soaked from all the rain that a telephone pole simply fell over. We didn’t even have wind yet. Power was out about 5 hours.


16 posted on 08/28/2011 4:51:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 1FreeAmerican
Forgot the sarcasm tag.

LOL!!!

17 posted on 08/28/2011 4:53:44 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

Your not looking for sympathy are you? :)


18 posted on 08/28/2011 4:54:00 PM PDT by angcat (RUN SARAH RUN!)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited
What am I missing here that makes this exceptional?

Obama's low favorability ratings

19 posted on 08/28/2011 4:57:29 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Paladin2; Impala64ssa

I lived in upstate NY as a kid. Every Christmas and Easter we’d drive down to see my dad’s folks in Thornwood near White Plains and crossing the Tappan Zee always meant we were almost to Grandma’s house. The bridge was only about 3 years old at the time and was quite a wonder. I remember Dad always looking south and saying “There’s the Empire State Building!” Good memories.


20 posted on 08/28/2011 5:06:18 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Nonsense Unlimited
What am I missing here that makes this exceptional?

You are forgetting the Billions that the politicians from that area are trying to get from Obozo!

22 posted on 08/28/2011 5:11:39 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

- Our ground got so soaked from all the rain that a telephone pole simply fell over.

Are you sure it didn’t just commit suicide?

Forgive me for poking fun.
I’ll come help you if you need it, my FRiend.


23 posted on 08/28/2011 5:11:39 PM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

Self-euthanasia? Caused by old age? ;-)


24 posted on 08/28/2011 5:14:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Traveling home thru NYS most if not all roads were closed, what amazed me was the lack of information and lack of interest the troopers had in directions around these area’s. No detour signs, no information, no interest. NYC broadcasts where more interested in recieving phone calls about what you would have in your frig for the emergency rather than giving thousands of motorists the road closures and ways around them. Thousands of motorists wandering thru towns and villages aimlessly trying to find their way home, rediculous!


25 posted on 08/28/2011 5:14:21 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Once Warwick’s got everything squared away, Obama will fly up and take the credit.


26 posted on 08/28/2011 5:15:43 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: ronnie raygun

The 5 hours without power were spent trying to get info on the radio. We gave up. Most stations are out of NYC and don’t cover north of them.


27 posted on 08/28/2011 5:17:42 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Not unless they have some arugula. He wouldn’t be caught in such a tiny, old town.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 5:19:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Don’t feel bad...local New Hampshire radio was running a taped ‘Glenn Beck’ show today...without power; you are without information. Batteries for your radio? Why bother?


29 posted on 08/28/2011 5:22:09 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Isn’t that the truth! They tell ya to make sure you have batteries. Why? We turned off the radio and listen to CD’s while the basement flooded. LOL


30 posted on 08/28/2011 5:27:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: ronnie raygun
Your experience mirrors ours last month, but in an entirely different venue.......

We'd been driving in Minnesota and decided for some variety on the way back to California, so headed down I-29 through the area hit by the spring Missouri River floods.

The Iowa DOT detour signage sucked to the tune of 200 unneeded miles and four wasted hours of circling thru cornfields. We'd still be there if we were to follow their signs, if it hadn't been for a couple of traveling salesmen we hooked up with at a country gas station.....they were headed to Kansas City, as were we - "Follow us!" was the call of the day, and it worked - we ignored the 'road closed ahead' warnings and got thru just fine, as did all the local traffic..................found out later that the Iowa DOT didn't want to "stress" any one local country road with too much traffic, so this bullshit was all intentional.

31 posted on 08/28/2011 5:29:27 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Most stations are out of NYC and don’t cover north of them

Their world stops there...just look at the television coverage this weekend. It got downright breathless this morning, but yesterday when the action was down south, it was yawn city.

32 posted on 08/28/2011 5:32:03 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: ErnBatavia

Happy me! I don’t have TV. :-)


33 posted on 08/28/2011 5:37:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

NYC is narcissistic, but you knew that didn’t ya?


34 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ErnBatavia
Uh, that's why Delorme sells State maps. GPS is your friend too.

It can be good to tack away from the fleet.

35 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Oh yeah! I did. :-)


36 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Dude, I’m glad someone else is fixated on the social justice issues affecting Arugula pickers.


37 posted on 08/28/2011 5:48:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DJ MacWoW

Dudette.


38 posted on 08/28/2011 5:55:35 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
LOL!!!

You bet. Onion pickers get ALL the attention!

39 posted on 08/28/2011 6:02:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited
I don’t mean to belitle the problems this storm has caused, but 30 to 40 mph winds?

We get that everytime there’s a fast moving thunderstorm going throught the area. 60 mph gusts happen realitively frequently.

What am I missing here that makes this exceptional?

My thoughts as well. We have many 60 mph+ winds here out in the rural West. Never makes the nighttime news.

40 posted on 08/28/2011 6:19:25 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Impala64ssa
I didn't read the article, but I can sort of corroborate their story. Racing was canceled in Saratoga today so I headed south around 11:30 AM. When I left I knew that the Thruway was closed at Exit 17 down beyond where I normally get off (Exit 15). I thought we might stop for lunch around Kingston (Exit 19) and hoped things would clear up by the time we got to Exit 17.

We got shunted off the Thruway at Exit 21! So I headed over to 9W and took that. There were streams to ford and fallen trees to avoid. It was a slow ride through depressed Newburgh but once through we made it to an obviously recently closed bridge now deemed unsafe. So much for 9W. I had to go back up to I84 and take that west to Goshen to pick up 17 East. It wasn't more than a few miles before we we shunted off that. I tried to follow 17M which parallels the main road but after a while we had to make a U'ey so it was back over to where we got off 17 with one chance to go south (on 94) before heading toward Port Jervis. I took this hoping to get to Warwick which I did. There there were three possible paths again. The first one was blocked after a couple of miles so I took another path down toward Greenwood Lake. The side of the lake my GPS directed me too was block so we had to retreat and go around the other way hoping to make it down to Route 23. We did this with only minor problems with zillions or trees lurking on either side of the road. Disaster at Route 23. I couldn't go south. So I went north (my only choice at the time, besides a U-turn) and after a while I couldn't go north and was forced to go south. (I think they just didn't want me to get to the traffic light where I would have headed south originally. I was sort of expecting trouble (flooding) in the Packanack Lake area and to have to detour onto I287 to get to I80 and I did. This would have been the end of my trouble, except my friend remembered that I287 was pretty close to JR Cigars so he suggested we go there for dinner and a smoke. I'm pretty good with all the roads in that area, but the closest I could get to JR was about a mile away and I was eventually forced to retreat to I80.

Normally the drive home from my hotel up near Saratoga is two and a half hours. Today it took about eight, and I think I was lucky to have made it back at all.

ML/NJ

41 posted on 08/28/2011 6:53:15 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Inyo-Mono

Ditto. We have 60+ MPH winds on almost no notice when thunderstorms pass within 50 miles of us at the right time in the evening. When the convective lift stops, the storms die and a huge rush of air comes down out of the anvil... and 10’s of miles away, it can cause very sharp increases in winds seemingly with no warning, no clue except the casement windows are getting ripped off the house.


42 posted on 08/28/2011 7:10:22 PM PDT by NVDave
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