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Is Rick Perry dumb? (Stupid article by an Obama campaign staffer disguised as a reporter)
Politico ^ | 8/29/2011 | By JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 08/29/2011 3:37:43 AM PDT by tobyhill

Another Texas governor who drops his “g’s” and scorns elites is running for president and the whispers are the same: Lightweight, incurious, instinctual.

Strip away the euphemisms, and Rick Perry is confronting an unavoidable question: is he dumb - or just misunderestimated?

Doubts about Perry’s intellect have hounded him since he was first elected as a state legislator nearly three decades ago. In Austin, he’s been derided as a right-place, right-time pol who looks the part but isn’t so deep – “Gov. Goodhair.” Now, with the chatter picking back up among his enemies and taking flight in elite Republican circles, the rap threatens to follow him to the national stage.

“He’s like Bush only without the brains,” cracked one former Republican governor who knows Perry, repeating a joke that has made the rounds.

The Texan’s loyalists reject the suggestion, asserting that it owes to political bias and sour grapes, but Perry himself seems to welcome the low bar. He cracked on the campaign trail earlier this month that the difference between he and Bush was that he went to Texas A&M and the former president attended Yale.

But conversations with both Perry admirers and critics reveal a more complicated assessment about the mind of a politician who has never lost an election—and ranks as the longest-serving governor in Texas history.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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KEYWORDS: jonathanmartin; martin4romney; perry; politico4romney; romney; romneytricks; smellslikemitt
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1 posted on 08/29/2011 3:37:46 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
He is head & shoulders above ZERO! ! ! ! ! ! !
2 posted on 08/29/2011 3:41:03 AM PDT by DeaconRed (To the idiots that didn't believe us about ZERO: Hope you enjoy your less than a dollar in change.)
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To: tobyhill

*ANY* conservative candidate will be ridiculed as “dumb”.

It’s the rats go-to meme.


3 posted on 08/29/2011 3:47:30 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: tobyhill
Is Rick Perry a Dope?

No. 0bama is a dope. Liberals are dopes.

But dopes don’t know they are dopes. They think they is smart. Photobucket

4 posted on 08/29/2011 3:49:19 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Nervous Tick

Seriously? They are going to start, yet again, with the Republican is dumb mantra. Does it ever end? Do these people ever have an original idea?


5 posted on 08/29/2011 3:50:06 AM PDT by riri
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To: tobyhill
Rick Perry got better grades in college than Obama.

Unless the Liberals/MSM can PROVE otherwise, they need to STFU.

6 posted on 08/29/2011 3:50:16 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: riri

If this is the best they have then it’s about to be President Perry.


7 posted on 08/29/2011 3:51:57 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: riri

The sheeple must buy it, or they wouldn’t use the same mantra.


8 posted on 08/29/2011 3:53:18 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: tobyhill

I’m no JM fan, but I think this is a pretty good article. Asks a question that people are asking, then gives a nuanced and believable answer.

Gives Perry lots of credit for having clear priorities, a well-honed executive style, and a very effective approach for a politician.

Makes him out to be a formidable and disciplined political competitor.


9 posted on 08/29/2011 3:53:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: tobyhill

Dang! I must be dumb too.

At least I can tell Shiite from donuts.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 3:56:44 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: tobyhill
Another Texas governor who drops his “g’s

Obama only drops his "G"'s when he is pandering to the little people.

11 posted on 08/29/2011 3:57:16 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: tobyhill
A surprisingly fair-minded assessment from this source.

Leftists generally take a very narrow gauged measuring stick when measuring a candidate and they always lay it only along the horizontal axis: how intelligent is the candidate?

They almost never inquire into the character of the candidate unless it is to destroy it, often on the basis of race. As I have posted, this is why the left is so flummoxed by Sarah Palin who says to them, you are judging me according to a false standard, stop worrying about my syntax and start thinking about my spiritual alignment. Stop judging me horizontally and start measuring me vertically.

So this author goes halfway and he is at least generous enough to grant Governor Perry the right to be judged on his own terms which is whether he is effective in governing, especially in creating jobs.

Better we are unlikely to get.


12 posted on 08/29/2011 3:58:02 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 9YearLurker
The “reporter” is trying to pull another Palin. Seed the question about intelligence then continue to write things that fit the self created scenario.

It's the oldest activist reporter trick.

13 posted on 08/29/2011 3:58:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

I think the real test is can Perry name all 57 states.


14 posted on 08/29/2011 3:59:17 AM PDT by Lockbox (`)
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To: tobyhill
Politico is not worth the time. It has really deteriorated.

They tried to label Palin stupid.

The reality is Obama has all his academic records hidden, never ran anything, does not understand economics and can not talk without a TelePrompTer

Rush has called this projecting by the Dems.

15 posted on 08/29/2011 4:00:52 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: nathanbedford
It's a bait article.

The “reporter” is an Obama campaign staffer.

16 posted on 08/29/2011 4:01:54 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill
Jonathan Martin

Looking at the photo at the link I see further proof that cousins should not marry.

17 posted on 08/29/2011 4:10:38 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: tobyhill

Jonathan, substitute “Obama” for “Perry” in your article.

What conclusion do you come to?


18 posted on 08/29/2011 4:13:13 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: tobyhill
I had read your comment to that effect before I posted. I do not care if Obama himself wrote the article, if that is the worst they got against Perry, he is home free.

Politico did not lay a glove on him.

It can slander him all day to the effect that he gets things done, is on top of the issues he cares about, is an effective governor, and wins all his elections. What next, they will not spell his name right?

Oh, the prickers in this briar patch!


19 posted on 08/29/2011 4:14:05 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: tobyhill

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904140604576495932704234052.html


20 posted on 08/29/2011 4:14:13 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: tobyhill

Is Jonathan Martin a total effing immature idiot?


21 posted on 08/29/2011 4:15:29 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Just when you think the left can't get any loonier . . .)
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To: FatherofFive

LOL!! THAT picture needs to be posted on EVERY thread so everyone gets a chance to see it!!


22 posted on 08/29/2011 4:15:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tobyhill

As soon as President Obama releases his college transcripts, I guess we’ll be able to make a fair comparison between el’ presidente and Governor Perry.


23 posted on 08/29/2011 4:20:34 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's so special about being bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad.)
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To: tobyhill
As opposed to a President who can't write simple English? Since 1974, with Gerald Ford,the Democrats have labeled every Republican President, and at least one Vice-President, as 'dumb'. I think they have pretty much worn that out.
24 posted on 08/29/2011 4:20:55 AM PDT by jmcenanly ( "We pay a person the compliment of acknowledging his superiority whenever we lie to him." -Samuel)
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To: tobyhill

Obama is bilingual...he speaks jive when appearing before his peeps. Furthermore, his world-renowned humility would never permit him to release his stellar college transcripts that would unquestionably make Perry shrink in awe.


25 posted on 08/29/2011 4:21:10 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Do you really want an answer to your question? LOL


26 posted on 08/29/2011 4:21:34 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: nathanbedford

Of course they can’t lay a glove on him.

The goal isn’t to stop these articles, it’s to point out the bias of the MSM for those few left that hasn’t seen it yet.


27 posted on 08/29/2011 4:27:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

“He’s like Bush only without the brains,” cracked one former Republican governor who knows Perry, repeating a joke that has made the rounds.

They finely admit Bush had a brain. At least that’s something.


28 posted on 08/29/2011 4:28:25 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: tobyhill
This is getting a bit old.

Eisenhower: dumb
Reagan: dumb
Bush: dumb
GW Bush: dumb
Palin: dumb
Perry: dumb

Every republican that comes along is dumb. Except Nixon, he was evil.

But Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Obama, Reid, Frank, Pelosi are all brilliant.

Please.

29 posted on 08/29/2011 4:30:56 AM PDT by wny
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To: opentalk
The reality is Obama has all his academic records hidden, never ran anything, does not understand economics and can not talk without a TelePrompTer

Obama's Teleprompter,Obama Teleprompter

30 posted on 08/29/2011 4:30:56 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: tobyhill
Jonathan Martin is a Romney Politico operative.
THIS hit piece is from Mitt Romney.

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



31 posted on 08/29/2011 4:31:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: tobyhill
ALL Republican presidents are dumb. Just ask any legacy reporter about Bush II, Bush I, Reagan, Ford, and Eisenhower (Nixon was EVIL). And ALL Democrat presidents were brilliant. Dittos about Obama, Clinton, Carter, Johnson and Kennedy. So for Politico to claim Perry is dumb, is like a first grader to claim water is wet. It's life.
32 posted on 08/29/2011 4:32:44 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: tobyhill

The intelligence question has always hung around Perry, and hearing the way he speaks will raise it for the vast majority of Americans outside of the South.

Obama would rather face Perry than Romney, and JM actually swats down the issue pretty well in Perry’s favor.


33 posted on 08/29/2011 4:33:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: tobyhill

All Repubs are “stupid” - didn’t you know that ..??

I remember all the times the media called GW stupid - and then implied he was a “mastermind” behind something they didn’t like.

But .. I’ve seen the preview of the National Geographic interview with GW and HE DID 4-5 HOURS WITH NO NOTES. You can’t be stupid and do that.

Zero has to use a prompter - which tells us a lot.


34 posted on 08/29/2011 4:35:32 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: tobyhill

But they dare not ask if Obama is dumb. I guess because the answer is so obvious.


35 posted on 08/29/2011 4:36:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill

Rick Perry Islamic Connection:
Actual School Curriculums established shortly after 9/11 with Rick’s Help and Endorsement..
Has he been “bought”..?????
Scroll (skip down about 1/4 of bar)to the information about the ACTUAL school curriculums Rick Perry endorsed WITH Aga Khan in Texas.
A shade of Woodrow Wilson, distorting History (when did you learn about the African Americans actively involved in the revolutionary war, and other “positive” facts from this country’s development years), from actual to what they want the “youth” to believe..
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/08/perry-mafia-punked.html


36 posted on 08/29/2011 4:38:43 AM PDT by 56newblog (Registered Islamophobe)
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To: tobyhill

Dropping “g”s is dumb, but dropping “r”s is intellectual.


37 posted on 08/29/2011 4:39:59 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: tobyhill

Note: This statement does not apply to anyone involved in the technical disciplines.

There is a HUGE difference between “smart” and “intelligent.”

Thank of PARROTS and MONKEYS. Parrots are “smart” while monkeys are “intelligent.”

Parrots simply “parrot” what they read and hear. Monkeys analyze and rationally figure solutions to problems and actually use independent thought to solve them.

Now, take college grades. Parrots memorize what is shown or spoken to them and are able to recite it back to the professor in the way of a test or paper exactly the way the professor wants it. Consequently, they get good grades. After graduation, the ones who get into public office can clearly remember and cite the politically correct talking points correctly without even any form of rational thinking.

Now, take the monkey. Since they have a natural curiosity and the rational and analytical thought process, they can independently figure out problems and the solution thereof...without having to thoughtfully parrot what the Professor places before them. They are able to take pieces of the lecture and study requirements and concentrate on only the important ones, thus affecting the “parroting” process. Consequently, the grades are affected.

Later in life these two traits come into play and the differences in either is vividly apparent.

The parrots normally become “heavy thinkers” and really produce nothing for society other than something written or oral and many are professional college students, professors, teachers, politicians and other professions that require the ability to parrot what they hear with the need to actually analyze what they are saying.

The monkey, on the other hand, normally produces something tangible for society. They may be a mechanic or brain surgeon.

A “smart” one can memorize while an “intelligent” one can analyze.

Who’s a parrot and who’s a monkey. Obama or Perry. I’ll give you a hint. One has to read everything from a teleprompter and the other can think independently.


38 posted on 08/29/2011 4:40:43 AM PDT by DH ( Rick Perry 2012...Be proud to be an American once again!)
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To: tobyhill

These SOB’s canNOT run on their FAILURES, they have and will continue to resort to character assassination and demonization. How frakin quaint of an administration that has to repeatedly lie to tout any success. =.=


39 posted on 08/29/2011 4:42:01 AM PDT by cranked
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To: tobyhill
Doesn't Barry drop his "g's", too? He also elongates his "y", like economehh, communitehh, hungrehh, etc. Then there's the stuttering and stammering, y'o, um, uh, uh, uh. And he likes pie way too much.
40 posted on 08/29/2011 4:42:51 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Cowboy Bob

I remember when GW was running against Gore and they used the same garbage.

Gore had lousy grades
Gore almost didn’t graduate from Yale.
Gore Entered Law School - flunked out.
Gore Entered Divinity School - got kicked out.

GW not only had better grades than Gore - GW also has an MBA from Harvard.

Hmmmm ..?? Even I graduated from a divinity school.

But .. Remember what Rush always tells us - “You know who the libs are afraid of by who they attack the most.”


41 posted on 08/29/2011 4:42:55 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: 9YearLurker
The concocted issue will not be swat down. This is exactly what the MSM did to Palin and no matter how she answered they said she was “dumb”.

Obama is scared of Perry. Perry has a record of drawing in businesses and creating jobs. Perry balances the Texas budget without a state income tax. Obama can't balance a budget with record tax revenues coming in.

I guarantee the first thing Perry will do when he's elected is rewrite rules for the EPA that allow us to get our own natural resources and from that point on the economy will only get better.

42 posted on 08/29/2011 4:44:13 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Mr. Martin regularly appears on CNN, MSNBC, CSPAN, NPR, ABC and CBS to discuss politics.


Well......guess what?


43 posted on 08/29/2011 4:45:09 AM PDT by DH ( Rick Perry 2012...Be proud to be an American once again!)
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To: tobyhill

Once again, the left falls face-forward lurching for the argument that the Republican is stupid.

The left has become a mockery of itself, yet they don’t see that yet.


44 posted on 08/29/2011 4:46:21 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
A Virginian, Mr. Martin is a graduate of Hampden-Sydney College.

Is that one of those correspondence on-line colleges? I guess that puts Martin in the elite of reporters who consider themselves much smarter then the average person and therefore qualified to judge other people's intelligence.

45 posted on 08/29/2011 4:46:38 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: opentalk; All

“Projection” - That’s actually a clinical term for a person who projects upon his enemy the very thing he is already doing or plans on doing.

Charles Krauthammer - a phychiatrist by trade - gave that description on TV of the liberals.

I totally understand this because I was married to a person who used projection all the time. Scary people.


46 posted on 08/29/2011 4:49:13 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: tobyhill
"is he dumb - or just misunderestimated?"

NOTE TAGLINE!

47 posted on 08/29/2011 4:50:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: DH

“The parrot” has always been my thought when some lib cites Rachel Maddow’s PhD. She merely regurgitated what her instructors wanted to hear. Intelligent she is not.


48 posted on 08/29/2011 4:53:41 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: CyberAnt
“Projection” - That’s actually a clinical term for a person who projects upon his enemy the very thing he is already doing or plans on doing.

It need not be an enemy. It can be anyone. And projection is often what we are feeling or thinking.

We all do it to some extent, some of us more than others. And it's the basic psychological mechanism behind paranoia.

49 posted on 08/29/2011 4:54:36 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: tobyhill

50 posted on 08/29/2011 4:57:42 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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