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MLKs Daughter on Abe Lincoln: Hes Known for Signing Declaration of Independence [ video ]
theblaze.com ^ | Aug 30 2011 | theblaze.com

Posted on 08/30/2011 2:01:32 PM PDT by NoLibZone

t the dedication for the new Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial in Washington, D.C. on Friday, the civil rights leader’s daughter made an interesting mistake regarding Abraham Lincoln. According to her, Lincoln is best known for signing the Declaration of Independence.

“But as I close, I close with the recognition that daddy is standing, Lincoln is seated,” Bernice King said. “Lincoln remembered for signing the Declaration of Independence. Daddy being remembered as standing up for truth and standing up for justice and standing up for righteousness and standing up for peace and standing up for freedom. Daddy is now standing on the National Mall in our nation’s capital.”

Watch it below:

The historical mistake could be simply an honest one that happens all the time when people speak in front of crowds. She probably just meant to say “Emancipation Proclamation.”

But it’s curious that Bernice — who has been labeled a conservative on some issues — would draw the juxtaposition that her father is now immortalized as someone who is standing while Lincoln is immortalized as someone who is sitting. It seems she wants to draw a distinction, and may even want to go as far as to point out her father‘s legacy is grander than Lincoln’s — and their memorials now recognize that.

Comparing legacies is difficult. But her seeming attempt to do so begs the question: Is Bernice King saying that MLK stood for civil rights while Lincoln just sat around? And if she is, would that mean the simple case of misspeaking is something more? Is it actually a misguided attack on Lincoln, trying to lump him into the group of Founding Fathers who signed the Declaration and who are often ridiculed as being racists?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: martinlutherking; mlk

1 posted on 08/30/2011 2:01:35 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

I don’t know what more he (Lincoln) could have done, nor what more he could have given up beyond his life. And I’m not even necessarily a big Lincoln fan.


2 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:00 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: NoLibZone

What the heck? What’s with the sitting, standing comparison?


3 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:29 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: NoLibZone

I really hate this nit-picky and stupid article. So she misspoke. So what? She’s an amazing Christian woman and anti-abortion campaigner. I’m sure she knows Lincoln didn’t sign the Declaration of Independence.


4 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:48 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: NoLibZone

5 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:59 PM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: NoLibZone

I don’t know how much I’d read into this. People make stupid comparisons in speeches and get carried away with metaphors and rhetorical tricks like the “sitting” vs. “standing” metaphor based on the respective statues. I’d simply take this as a warning to not be “too clever by half” in your public speaking.


6 posted on 08/30/2011 2:06:18 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Deb

I think she must be a cousin of Michelle Bachmann’s.


7 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: NoLibZone

Martin Luther King....the man stood for many things, one of them was peace. Go to MLK street, road or boulevard in any city in this nation and try to find the peace.


8 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by Grunthor (Perry.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Forget it, she’s rolling.”


9 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NoLibZone

Maybe for her, the Emancipation Proclamation is the Declaration of Independence...


10 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Winstons Julia

Lincoln sat to sign the Emancipation Proclamation and King stood up for civil rights...or something like that.


11 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:41 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: NoLibZone
Out of fairness, I have to at least say that a confusion between Declaration of Independence and say, the Emancipation Proclamation could be confused, at least in the spirit of the intents.

That said, I'm sure one of her more educated staff could point his out - if she had any 'educated' staff.

12 posted on 08/30/2011 2:10:15 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: buccaneer81

Some people just shouldn’t speak in public.


13 posted on 08/30/2011 2:11:44 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: NoLibZone
Btw, while I don't think this is what she was getting at, you can read that Civil War blacks used to think of the Emancipation Proclamation as their “Declaration of Independence.”
14 posted on 08/30/2011 2:13:01 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: NoLibZone

Well, Lincoln would have said, and did, that the EP was just an extension of the DOI.

Lincoln was largely responsible for bringing the DOI back into public consciousness as an aspirational document for the nation, as opposed to the nuts and bolts Constitution, which other than in the Bill of Rights has little to say about what the government should stand for.


15 posted on 08/30/2011 2:14:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Deb

ditto


16 posted on 08/30/2011 2:14:47 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Grunthor

no luck. www.thugreport.com (not affiliated just a fan)


17 posted on 08/30/2011 2:15:51 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Deb

It seems like she’s belittling Lincoln.


18 posted on 08/30/2011 2:16:48 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: NoLibZone

I know that she’s right. He took a copy of the existing declaration and signed his name to it. I was there when he signed it.


19 posted on 08/30/2011 2:20:47 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: Winstons Julia

Sometimes Glenn Beck over-thinks things to the point he loses some important brain cells. Ms. King is a dedicated Christian and anti-abortion crusader, I doubt she would do or say anything to belittle Lincoln. Beck obviously doesn’t know who she is.


20 posted on 08/30/2011 2:21:13 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: NoLibZone

The difference is that MLK was assassinated for standing up for the truth while Abraham Lincoln was, ugh, what, how did he die anyway?

And, to advance the cause of equality, men and women defied the KKK during the civil rights movement, and during Lincoln’s day, what did they do, nobody even knows anymore. Maybe they were just eating their mayonnaise on white bread and sitting around listening to that white music of theirs.

And, my daddy counseled people not to be angry or let past injustice poison human relations. And what did the Lincoln fellow ever do to bind the nation’s wounds?

As you can see, now that we have a monument to my daddy, I can finally be proud of this country, about which I have no idea that anything good ever transpired before.


21 posted on 08/30/2011 2:26:44 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: NoLibZone; All
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Americans need to take an American History class.

22 posted on 08/30/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Deb

I also believe Bernice King is a strong believer and defender of traditional marriage.

God bless her.


23 posted on 08/30/2011 2:27:49 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: NoLibZone

Classmate of Barry Soetoro???


24 posted on 08/30/2011 2:29:12 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Deb

My comment wasn’t about Beck. I was just interpreting her comment.

Why point out the standing/sitting thing?


25 posted on 08/30/2011 2:29:49 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: lonestar

“Classmate of Barry Soetoro???”

You betcha.


26 posted on 08/30/2011 2:32:03 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Deb

“”Lincoln sat to sign the Emancipation Proclamation””

At a desk now in the Lincoln bedroom in the WH. michelle obama said at the time of the election that her girls wanted to do their homework at that desk. My reaction then and now is HORRORS! I have no idea if they do use it but I can’t imagine allowing it.


27 posted on 08/30/2011 2:34:05 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Winstons Julia

Because they’re both heroes to the Black community? One is defending them by sitting to sign their liberation document and one is standing to give the speech that secured it? I don’t know, but I think its a mistake to assume she making a negative point. (Most of) the King women aren’t idiots like the sons and nephews.


28 posted on 08/30/2011 2:35:12 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Winstons Julia

The reason I referenced Beck was because this is from his site and he talked about it on his show this morning. I think he’s wrong.


29 posted on 08/30/2011 2:36:51 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Thank You Rush
Oh, geez. It wouldn't surprise me.

What is it about Democrats and the Lincoln bedroom? First Linda Bloodworth Thomason and Markey Post delight in jumping on the bed together and now the Obama girls do their homework on the desk he used to sign the Emancipation Declaration.

30 posted on 08/30/2011 2:44:33 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps she would swear on a stack of Bibles that the USA has “57 States”


31 posted on 08/30/2011 2:50:02 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Winstons Julia

It’s a subliminal message. She’s trying to say that Lincoln is sitting, back there in that monument, hidden and irrelevant to today.

Her daddy is standing tall on the Tidal Basin, relevant and victorious.

The problem with that, is that the imagery of the King Memorial doesn’t even compare to the Lincoln Memorial in stature and majesty, and she knows it.

Also, in terms of historical significance, Lincoln will always overshadow King, and she knows that as well.

I believe part of the problem that black Americans have had since King’s death is that there has never been another historical figure to come along to replace him. Obama isn’t that figure and he probably won’t be in the future. It’s easy to guess that in terms of their history and the way that they tell their story, that they won’t have another to raise up to King’s level and erect a monument to for a very, very long time. They know this and they find this frustrating. They haven’t found another hero.

And King stands among the giants of Lincoln, Roosevelt, Jefferson, Washington and all of the Founding Fathers whose memories are in the very fabric of Washington DC. Everywhere you go in the nation’s capitol you’re reminded that this nation was built by for us by the Founding Fathers and it is a system that has endured for over two hundred years.

I think she felt kind of tiny when standing at the Tidal Basin. I have no doubt that she loves and misses her father. I do think, though, that she missed an opportunity to be more gracious. But, I didn’t lose my father as a young girl by an assassin’s bullet. So I do understand that when she speaks of her father, she is speaking through a great deal of pain.


32 posted on 08/30/2011 2:55:08 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: NoLibZone

Did he use a Steam Punk Time Machine?

LLS


33 posted on 08/30/2011 3:29:01 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Apparently, we are supposed to decry Beck’s site and not wonder if she’s trying to make Lincoln seem comparatively small.

If I was MLK’s kids, personally, I’d be upset that every time you drive through a major city and see MLK Boulevard, Rd, Dr... you know that you have to hold your pee because you don’t want to take that exit because it’s usually the hood.


34 posted on 08/30/2011 3:30:59 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
They have a WORTHY Hero today... they hate his guts... the most brilliant Justice on the Supreme Court... Clarence Thomas... GOD bless and keep him safe!

LLS

35 posted on 08/30/2011 3:35:01 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Cobra64

We must and we will much...


36 posted on 08/30/2011 3:36:56 PM PDT by MAKOTHEDOG
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To: NoLibZone

“Stand up, Abe. Let ‘em see ya!”


37 posted on 08/30/2011 3:47:03 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: ichabod1

Yep, I recall that, he gave me the pen he used.


38 posted on 08/30/2011 4:04:49 PM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: NoLibZone

Forskor and sevn yeerz agoe our faadherz braut forth on this kontinent a nue naeshon, konseevd in liberty, and dedikaeted to the propozishon that aul men ar kreaeted eequal………


39 posted on 08/30/2011 4:07:54 PM PDT by boothead
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To: LibLieSlayer

They don’t recognize Thomas as a historical figure. Did they really recognize Thurgood Marshall that much historically? I see Rosa Parks, King, Jackson and Cosby held in much higher esteem. If you asked most youth today to name the nine Justices could they?

He is a conservative, black, Supreme Court justice that was appointed by a Republican that sits on the highest court of the land. With that resume he is the considered the devil by all liberals. In terms of a lasting impact in the nation, I would argue that he has more power than Obama. And because of this, no one will recognize him. If he helps to end Obamacare and other legislation that impacts the Obama administration, he will help defeat Obama significantly.

We know that Obama personally dislikes Thomas. Obama has even said that he doesn’t think that Thomas is intelligent enough to serve on the court. (I’m paraphrasing here.) Which is a hysterical statement, because Obama is no constitutional heavy weight.


40 posted on 08/30/2011 5:02:24 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: ichabod1

Lincoln sitting, still stands taller than MLK standing.


41 posted on 08/30/2011 9:03:02 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama..."Fredo-Smart")
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
jeffry toobin (a george will wannabe) wrote an oped piece yesterday, with tons of Court background and in it he says that Thomas is THE CONSERVATIVE THINKER ON THE COURT. Scalia gets his input from Thomas... that Thomas has single handedly written the path to overturning obamacare. Roberts and the other 5 sane members all look to Thomas for guidance. This is why obama and the left hate him and why toobin wrote the article... according to Rush it was a warning for the left to step up attacks on Thomas so that he has top recuse himself from any obamacare proceedings. He will refuse... and you can bet the sub humanoid carpet munching commie *unt of obama’s will refuse to recuse herself too... another low IQ communist sitting on the court.

Thomas has more intelligence in his little finger than every pos obama ever born... collectively... and obama himself knows nothing of the Constitution... other than he hates it. obama probably has an IQ of around 90... and it shows.

LLS

42 posted on 08/31/2011 4:16:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: stylin19a

I just learned on Rush today that the eternal “Some” are complaining because the statue is white, has asian features, and get this, was constructed in red china. Some stories just write themselves.


43 posted on 08/31/2011 2:32:44 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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