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This is What the National Council of Churches Wants YOU to Hear on Sunday, 9/11/11 - VANITY
National Council of Churches | 9/7/11 | Piperpilot

Posted on 09/07/2011 4:50:31 AM PDT by piperpilot

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Beyond appalling. According to the NCC, there is no evil (except maybe us for wanting to rid the world of terrorism); we are no better than terrorists; and if we could just rid ourselves of all this hate, the world would be a better place--no mention that complete justice and peace can ONLY be achieved upon Jesus' return to the Earth. It's just sickening. They can't even refer to Jesus by name. Yes, Yes, I realize that Jesus is called the Prince of Peace, but it's just too PC to refer to him by name.

I will be having a frank discussion with the minister of my church today, and I will NOT be reading this to the parish.
1 posted on 09/07/2011 4:50:35 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: piperpilot

The NCC also promotes the green agenda.


2 posted on 09/07/2011 4:53:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: piperpilot

Ecumenism on the move. Watering down the faith, weakening the truth to make it palatable for the unsaved.


3 posted on 09/07/2011 4:54:17 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: cripplecreek

NCC eco justice programs

http://nccecojustice.org/


4 posted on 09/07/2011 4:54:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

NCC poverty statements.

http://www.nccendpoverty.org/resources/nccstatements.html


5 posted on 09/07/2011 4:57:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: piperpilot

Is this a joke?


6 posted on 09/07/2011 4:57:33 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: piperpilot

The NCC is Satanic, in case you didn’t already know. You should have the deepest suspicion about any “minister” affiliated with them.


7 posted on 09/07/2011 4:57:59 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: piperpilot

I intend to ignore the 9/11 TV coverage this year. I am not interested in the perversion of the day.

There is no tipping point anymore. Might as well tune it out.


8 posted on 09/07/2011 5:00:21 AM PDT by dforest
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To: piperpilot

You kind of hope they mean ‘Jesus’ when they say the Prince of Peace, but - you know what - they probably mean the other guy.

Allah, the Devil, Prince of Submission and Slavery dressed up as peace.

Him.


9 posted on 09/07/2011 5:00:46 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

Unfortunately, it is not a joke.


10 posted on 09/07/2011 5:01:06 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: piperpilot

Matthew 10:34-36 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Luke 22:36 - “And He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it along, likewise also a bag, and let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one.”

Jesus did not intend for us to sit idly by and be persecuted unrighteously. He knew there would be those that would try to keep us divided in order to remove us.


11 posted on 09/07/2011 5:04:19 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: piperpilot; lightman

And one of the members of the National Council of Communist Churches is the cult formerly known as the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America.


12 posted on 09/07/2011 5:06:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: piperpilot

FYI: the National Council of Churches is a communist front organization.

From David Horowitz’s Discoverthenetworks.org:

Since its founding in 1950, the New York City-based National Council of Churches (NCC) has remained faithful to the legacy of its predecessor, the Communist front-group known as the Federal Council of Churches, which the NCC absorbed in 1950. At one time an unabashed apostle of the Communist cause, the NCC has today recast itself as a leading representative of the so-called religious Left. Adhering to what it has described as “liberation theology”—that is, Marxist ideology disguised as Christianity—the NCC lays claim to a membership of 36 Protestant, Anglican and Orthodox Christian denominations, and some 50 million members in over 140,000 congregations.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the NCC has soft-pedaled its radical message, dressing up its demands for global collectivization and its rejection of democratic capitalism in the garb of religious teachings. Yet the organization’s history suggests that it was—and remains—a devout backer of a gallery of socialist governments. In the 1950s and 1960s, under cover of charity, the NCC provided financial succor to the Communist regimes in Yugoslavia and Poland, funneling money to both through its relief agency, the Church World Service. In the 1970s, working with its Geneva-based parent organization, the World Council of Churches, the NCC supplied financial support for Soviet-sponsored incursions into Africa, aiding the terrorist rampages of Communist guerrillas in Zimbabwe, Namibia, Mozambique, and Angola.

As one of the leading contributors to the Program to Combat Racism (a program created in 1939 by the NCC-parent group, the World Council of Churches, and discontinued in 1996), the NCC played a central role in subsidizing revolutionary Communist movements in the Third World. Sensitive to the controversy which over the years has enveloped the Program to Combat Racism (PCR), the WCC has consistently declined to divulge both the contributors to, and the recipients of, the program. The WCC has gone so far as to establish an independent budget, the Special Fund to Combat Racism, in order to conceal details about the funding of the program. Despite these efforts, the WCC has not been entirely successful in obscuring the PCR’s paper trail. An August 1982 report by Reader’s Digest revealed that during the 1970s the PCR disbursed over $5 million to some 130 organizations in 30 countries. While the WCC held fast to the claim that the funds were directed solely toward those organizations dedicated to fighting racism, the facts suggested otherwise. According to the Reader’s Digest report, more than half of the money that went to the PCR wound up in the hands of Communist guerrillas. The report further traced PCR funds to a series of Communist rampages in Africa. During the 1970s, over $78,000 went to Cuba’s Soviet-sponsored MPLA to foment Communist revolution in Angola; some $120,000 went to the Marxist FRELIMO in Mozambique; and another $832,000 to Namibia’s Communist regime, the SWAPO; another grant, for $108,000, was funneled to the Patriotic Front in Zimbabwe (then Rhodesia), a Communist guerrilla force whose campaign of indiscriminate terror claimed the lives of 207 white civilians, 1,721 blacks, and nine missionaries as well as their children. In the face of this grim evidence, PCR administrators—many of whom were culled from the ranks of the NCC—continued to push the line that, rather than bankrolling Communist death squads, the organization was simply supporting “liberation movements.” From this position the WCC has never wavered. In an archival overview of the PRC, published in 2004, the WCC dusted off its claim that “the main aim of the PCR is to define, propose and carry out ecumenical policies and programs that substantially contribute to the liberation of the victims of racism.”

Using the Evangelical Committee for Aid to Development (CEPAD), an organization established to distribute the charity donations collected by U.S. churches in Latin America—and whose leadership openly professed solidarity with the Sandinistas’ Marxist aims—the NCC made common cause with the Sandinista government in Nicaragua, contributing nearly $400,000 to the Sandinista Party between 1981 and 1983. Documents seized from El Salvador’s guerrillas in 1983 revealed yet another Communist group on the take from the NCC’s collection plate.

Another of the NCC’s leftist faith-based initiatives is support for Communist Cuba. Having pushed for the United States to normalize relations with the Castro regime since 1968, the NCC throughout the Cold War pressed its considerable authority on moral issues into the service of whitewashing the hard-line regime’s record of oppression. In 1977, after heading a delegation of American church officials to Cuba, the Methodist bishop James Armstrong, who would be elected NCC president the following year, issued a report that may justifiably be described as supportive of the murderous dictatorship. “There is a significant difference,” Armstrong insisted, “between situations where people are imprisoned for opposing regimes designed to perpetuate inequities, as in Chile and Brazil, for example, and situations were people are imprisoned for opposing regimes designed to remove inequities, as in Cuba.”

On the rare occasions that the NCC was unforthcoming with a public rationalization for Communist repression, it communicated its support through silence. For example, despite its oft-declared commitment to human rights, the NCC could find little to say about the ascension to power of Ethiopia’s Marxist government, which left 10,000 dead and shuttered 200 churches. Likewise, on the matter of the Soviet Union’s 1978 invasion of Afghanistan, the NCC kept conspicuously mum.

Not until the Soviet Union’s collapse did the NCC see it fit to weigh in on the subject of Communist oppression. In 1993, Joan Brown Campbell, a former NCC General Secretary, made a striking admission. Acknowledging that the NCC had failed to challenge the brutality of Communist rule, she explained, “We did not understand the depth of the suffering of Christians under Communism. And we failed to really cry out under the Communist oppression.”

Campbell’s comments, however, did not prompt the NCC to withdraw its support for Communist totalitarianism. On the contrary, to this day the NCC remains an unwavering ally of the Cuban government. Still pressing for the lifting of the U.S. trade embargo on Cuba, the NCC continues to evince scant concern for the plight of victims of the Castro regime. On occasion, the NCC has even turned against them. No sooner had the NCC used its charity arm, the Church World Service, to establish a Cuban Refugee Emergency Center in Miami, than it soured on the center. The reason was that Cuban refugees had regularly denounced the Cuban government—an outcry that was intolerable to the NCC’s Castro-friendly executives. Kenneth Lloyd, the author of a history of the NCC called From Mainline to Sideline: The Social Witness of the National Council of Churches, noted that one NCC declaration condemned the anti-Castro recriminations of the refugees because they “abetted our government’s effort to discredit Cuba” and “encouraged humanitarian sentiment that generated hostile attitudes toward Cuba among U.S. congregations.”

In January of 2000, eager to affirm its Castroite sympathies, the NCC forced itself into the controversy over the fate of Cuban refugee Elian Gonzalez, becoming one of the loudest voices demanding that the boy be sent back to Cuba. Most recently, in January of 2004, the NCC dispatched a delegation of church leaders to Cuba for a six-day visit. NCC spokesmen claimed that, in addition to paying a visit to Havana churches, the delegates intended to discuss with Castro himself the fate of 75 political prisoners jailed by the dictator in 2003. But if an NCC statement was any indication, the delegates had no intention of seriously pressing for the prisoners’ release. The NCC’s only bone of contention was, “We find [their] sentences excessive.”

This should not be taken to mean that the NCC has been wholly silent on the issue of human rights. The organization continues to issue press releases decrying abhorrent human rights conditions around the world. However, the countries that the NCC chooses to single out for opprobrium evidence the extent to which the organization’s religious mission has been corrupted by its radical leftist politics. One study, conducted by the Institute of Religion and Democracy in September 2004, found that “of the seven human rights criticisms it issued from 2000-2003, Israel received four, the United States two, and Sudan one.” Moreover, the study noted, “Fully 80 percent of the NCC resolutions targeting foreign nations for human rights abuses were aimed at Israel.”

The NCC’s programmatic opposition to U.S. foreign policy is another manifestation of its deep-rooted leftist politics. Taking refuge in the counsel of the New Testament — “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” (Matthew 5:9) — the NCC has repeatedly condemned U.S. military interventions. In 1991, the NCC played a central role in The Return of the Peace Movement, a coalition of leftwing religious groups arrayed against the first Gulf war, when American forces repulsed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. At that time, the leaders of 32 NCC churches announced that the risk of military intervention was “out of proportion to any conceivable gain.”

The NCC’s assessment of the second Gulf War was identical. In January of 2003, the NCC’s current president, the Methodist preacher Bishop Thomas L. Hoyt, Jr., joined 46 other religious leaders in signing a letter to President Bush. The letter expressed the signatories’ “continuing uneasiness about the moral justification for war on Iraq,” and suggested that the President accord them the “opportunity to bring this message to you in person.” Citing scheduling conflicts, Mr. Bush, through a spokesman, politely declined. Having failed to thwart U.S. military intervention, the NCC did not reconsider its reflexive opposition to U.S. policy following the fall of the Saddam Hussein regime. Rejecting the notion that America could play the role of a post-war peacemaker, the NCC, in May of 2004, issued yet another letter (which it encouraged member pastors to read to their congregations) urging the U.S. to abdicate authority in Iraq in favor of the United Nations. “We would ask that members of our churches, as they feel appropriate, contact their respective congressional delegations to urge the U.S. to change course in Iraq,” the letter noted. The NCC is a member organization of the Win Without War and United for Peace and Justice anti-war coalitions.

Even as it has traduced U.S. foreign policy, the NCC has continuously injected itself into debates on domestic policy. Here, again, the NCC’s strategy involves veiling its leftwing politics in expressions of religious faith. On more than a few occasions, the NCC has preached the gospel of environmentalism. In 2002, the NCC was a party to an environmentalist campaign against the automobile industry. This campaign — called “What would Jesus drive?” — exhorted car manufactures to embrace stricter emissions standards. It was engineered by the Evangelical Environmental Network, a coalition of left-leaning religious groups that views “‘environmental’ problems as fundamentally spiritual problems.”

The NCC also levied an opposition campaign against the Bush administration’s environmental initiative, the Clean Air Act. In an ad placed in The New York Times, the NCC framed its agenda in the language of a concerned moral appeal. Wrote the NCC leadership, “In a spirit of shared faith and respect, we feel called to express grave moral concern about your ‘Clear Skies’ initiative—which we believe is the Administration’s continuous effort to weaken critical environmental standards to protect God’s creation.” Nor was this the first time that the NCC employed such tactics. While proclaiming the virtues of the Kyoto protocol in 1998, the NCC’s then-General Secretary, Rev. Joan Brown Campbell, insisted that an acceptance of the (radical) environmentalist movement’s assertions about global warming ought to be made a “litmus test for the faith community.”

The NCC has also expressed concern that the Patriot Act constitutes a trampling on the civil liberties of those living in America, whether they live there legally or illegally. “We believe it is time for us to stop and think about where we should draw the line in our search for security,” said the NCC in 2004. “The 2004 Social Justice Sunday [September 26] theme invites us to consider this issue as a critical point in our history. . . . Only a self-obsessed society pursues security at all costs.”

Recently, some prominent religious figures have voiced concerns that the NCC is less a spiritual than a political organization, less concerned with ministering to the souls of its parishioners than with shaping a future that is in concordance with its leftist agenda. Mark Tooley, a director at the Institute on Religion and Democracy, has taken the NCC to task for positioning itself as an impartial religious group. “We do not think the NCC is impartial. They have been openly sympathetic to the Cuban government for many years,” Tooley told the Washington Times in January 2000. The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, a former Lutheran minister and now editor of the Catholic journal First Things, has observed that 50 years of rigid adherence to leftwing orthodoxy has taken its toll on the NCC. “The NCC is a shadow of what it once was,” Neuhaus has said. “It has been sidelined. Its 50th anniversary was more of a requiem than a celebration. It has lost the confidence of its membership.”

Complicating the NCC’s situation is its history of financial mismanagement. While doling out hundreds of thousands of dollars in support of various leftist causes, the NCC been saddled with fiscal woes. The organization’s leadership has long spent beyond its means, and in 1998 the NCC found itself facing a deficit of $1.5 million. In 1999, NCC expenses exceeded total revenues by some $4 million. These budgetary shortfalls have compelled the NCC to appeal to its member denominations—seven of which account for 90 percent of the NCC’s budget—to step up their contributions. For instance, in 1999 the NCC requested that its chief sponsor, the United Methodist Church, increase its yearly contribution of $2.5 million by an additional $700,000.

Despite such stopgap measures, the NCC has proved incapable of reining in spending. In 2002, records showed that the NCC continued to spend 30 percent more than it received, with the United Methodist Church and the Presbyterian Church USA responsible for 64 percent of NCC revenues. The support of the United Methodist Church is of particular importance to the NCC. According to the 2004 Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches, a chronicle of church membership published by the NCC and edited by the NCC Deputy General Secretary for Research and Planning, Rev. Dr. Eileen W. Lindner, the United Methodist Church has recently experienced small declines in membership. That sets it apart from other NCC member churches. Partially as a consequence of growing dissatisfaction with the radical agenda espoused by the NCC’s leadership, many of these churches have suffered a precipitous decline in their membership.

The NCC endorsed the Million Mom March, a May 2000 anti-gun rally in Washington, DC that drew some 750,000 participants and has since evolved into a national organization with the same name. Today Million Mom March is a member group of America Votes, a national coalition of 33 grassroots, get-out-the-vote organizations. America Votes is one of the seven groups forming the administrative core of the Democrat Shadow Party. Its get-out-the-vote efforts — and those of NCC — target likely Democratic voters, such as swing voters (working women and young people) and Democrat base voters (especially blacks and Hispanics). Among the causes America Votes promotes are environmental extremism, unregulated immigration (Open Borders), and the leftwing agendas of the teachers’ unions. By contrast, it opposes the Patriot Act and gun ownership rights. The coalition’s most pressing objective in 2004 was to defeat George W. Bush in the Presidential election. These are ideals to which NCC similarly subscribes.

Moreover, the NCC was a signatory to a November 1, 2001 document characterizing the 9/11 attacks as a legal matter to be addressed by criminal-justice procedures rather than military means. Ascribing the hijackers’ motives to alleged social injustices against which they were protesting, this document explained that “security and justice are mutually reinforcing goals that ultimately depend upon the promotion of all human rights for all people,” and called on the United States “to promote fundamental rights around the world.”

The NCC was also a signatory – along with more than 120 other leftwing organizations – to a 2000 campaign to increase the minimum wage.

Compensating somewhat for its sagging private donations of recent years, the NCC has received some funding from a handful of foundations, including: the Ford Foundation, the Annie E. Casey Foundation, the Beldon Fund, the Lilly Endowment, the Rasmussen Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Tides Foundation. It also gets funding from political advocacy groups like the Sierra Club and MoveOn.org.

In February 2005 the NCC condemned Israel – a nation plagued in recent years by an epidemic of Palestinian suicide bombings aimed at civilians – for having “established hundreds upon hundreds of checkpoints, roadblocks, and gates across the Occupied Territories, making daily life and travel extremely difficult for ordinary Palestinians.” Proclaiming that “[s]tereotypes of all Palestinians as terrorists must be broken,” the Council explained that “[t]he crushing burden of Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory contributes to deep anger and violent resistance, which contributes to fear throughout Israeli society.” The Council lamented that while “[a]t least half of the Palestinian people live in poverty, . . . too many Israelis have little or no knowledge of the human rights abuses experienced by Palestinians.”

In making the these statements, the National Council of Churches offered neither social nor historical context. For example, it did not mention that fully 70 percent of Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza approve of the murder of Jews via suicide bombings; that there is no trace of an Arab peace movement urging the cessation of such terror attacks (a stark contrast to Israel, where the movement demanding concessions to Arabs in the name of peace is a formidable political force); that Palestinians in Israel enjoy more civil and human rights than their counterparts in any Arab nation on earth; that Israel came to occupy the West Bank and Gaza not as a result of expansionist impulses, but rather because of its victory in the 1967 war that was ignited when Israel was attacked by Egypt, Syria and Jordan; that in 1973, yet another coalition of Arab armies attacked Israel and were defeated; and that when Egypt (the spearhead of that 1973 assault) became the lone nation to agree to a formal peace with Israel, it was rewarded by Israel with the return of the entire captured Sinai with all its oil riches.

The foregoing facts notwithstanding, the National Council of Churches betrays no recognition of the fact that Israel has demonstrated a remarkable willingness to negotiate peace with, and relinquish land to, even defeated aggressors who have previously demonstrated a burning desire to destroy the Jewish state. “[I]t is clear,” maintains the Council, that “the overriding problem is Israel’s continuing occupation of Palestinian territory.” The Council’s critical stance on Israel is mirrored by its history of consistently opposing U.S. policies as well. These two nations are singled out for rebuke by the Council with greater frequency than any others.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/nccexpandedagenasactivities.html


13 posted on 09/07/2011 5:06:39 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: piperpilot

Not only is this piece full of pie-in-the-sky etherial nonsense, it’s a good example of poorly written grammar.


14 posted on 09/07/2011 5:07:09 AM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: piperpilot
"We place fresh confidence in international organizations and conversations that bring the diverse gifts of the world to the problems of poverty, injustice, terror and strife."

The meme that Islamic terrorism is caused by "poverty" has been thoroughly discredited. All of the 9-11 hijackers come from middle-class backgrounds and Osama bin Laden and his family were/are multi-millionaires.

15 posted on 09/07/2011 5:08:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: HighWheeler

Well, they are excerpts from a much larger document.


16 posted on 09/07/2011 5:08:29 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: piperpilot

How odd that only certain selct people are expected to get angry and kill. Imagine the chaos if this rule applied to everybody.


17 posted on 09/07/2011 5:08:51 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: agere_contra

“You kind of hope they mean ‘Jesus’ when they say the Prince of Peace....”

I was going to write the same thing.


18 posted on 09/07/2011 5:09:29 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: piperpilot
The NCC also gives money to Communist dictators. I quit my Methodist church in California when the minister, from the pulpit two weeks later, blamed 9/11 on ‘word hunger’ and said ‘we must redistribute the wealth so that everyone has enough’. I suspect that came from the NCC, too. Leftists have infiltrated our religious institutions and have risen to the top of those institutions. But we can now see what they are doing and what they want. Leftists think We, the People, are stupid sheeple. We are NOT anymore.
19 posted on 09/07/2011 5:10:07 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: piperpilot
"Adhering to what it [the National Council of Churches] has described as “liberation theology”—that is, Marxist ideology disguised as Christianity"

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Re: "Liberation Theology"... sound familiar??

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

20 posted on 09/07/2011 5:14:28 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: piperpilot

If this is how they feel, you should leave the church altogether, not just on the day of this reading.

As others have posted, the NCC seems to have MANY leftist, non-Biblical views. There are tons of non-denominational churches that would love to have you as a member and would preach Biblical doctrine instead.


21 posted on 09/07/2011 5:17:36 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: piperpilot
Whoever is the globalist/US govt Goebbels has reached into the NCC

what an evil “prayer”

May God open the eyes of our ministers and help them to resist being used to propagandize their flocks

22 posted on 09/07/2011 5:18:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: Joann37
As others have posted, the NCC seems to have MANY leftist, non-Biblical views.

They are a communist front. Trust me.

23 posted on 09/07/2011 5:19:09 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: piperpilot

Same kind of crap is why I left the Episcopal Church ... all a bunch of lefties that have forgotten Christ finally got angry with some folks and overturned the tables of the taxpayers. You keep offering the other cheek, the terrorists will hit you again. I don’t think God meant for us to “pray” on the way to the gas chambers.


24 posted on 09/07/2011 5:19:57 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: piperpilot

What is the denomination of your church? 11 years ago I left the Presbyterian Church USA because they are pro-choice, and even give their pastors and families abortion coverage in the medical plan. They are members of the National Council of Churches. The NCC has been taken over by liberal democrats.


25 posted on 09/07/2011 5:35:25 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

This is an Episcopal Church. I think I have finally had enough. It won’t get back to Biblical truth.


26 posted on 09/07/2011 5:36:15 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

What’s a guy to do when the pastor urges the flock to pray for obama?

I can’t do it.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 5:36:36 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: piperpilot
The National Council of Churches advocates "Liberation Theology". Same as Obama 'spiritual adviser" of 20+ years, Jeremiah Wright.

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"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

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"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"


28 posted on 09/07/2011 5:39:53 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Me too. Between listening to the female clergy refer to God as ‘she’, the ridiculous Millenium Goals and all the other rubbish, I called it a day and stopped going.
29 posted on 09/07/2011 5:41:17 AM PDT by madball
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
They are members of the National Council of Churches. The NCC has been taken over by liberal democrats.

Did you read any of what I and others have posted here?? The NCC is a COMMUNIST FRONT.

30 posted on 09/07/2011 5:41:36 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: piperpilot
"Beyond appalling." is so correct!!

Which is why I belong to the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America). The PCA separated from the Presbyterian Church in the United States (Southern) in part to disassociate itself from the National Council of Churches.

31 posted on 09/07/2011 5:41:45 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: piperpilot

“We stand together in penitence, recognizing that we have not done enough to address the sources of anger, hate, dehumanization, rage and indignation that lead to acts of violence.”

“In our sadness, horror and shock we acknowledge that our own fears turned murderous and we have sough revenge, sometimes even against the innocent.”

“We confess and regret our own anger and recognize its dangers to our spirits, our health, our community and others.”

“In striving for national security and domestic peace we run the risk of confusing might for right and participating in the very behaviors we condemn.”

Mullah Achmed says he approves this message.


32 posted on 09/07/2011 5:45:59 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: piperpilot
I will be having a frank discussion with the minister of my church today, and I will NOT be reading this to the parish.

Good for you! Let us know what the response is, if you can. (JMO, looks like it is time to find a new church.)

33 posted on 09/07/2011 5:46:25 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: piperpilot
From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations.

During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991

34 posted on 09/07/2011 5:49:53 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: piperpilot

The NCC is a wing of the communist party and has been for decades.


35 posted on 09/07/2011 5:57:08 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: piperpilot

Read up on the World Council of Churches and you will learn even more. They are a commie front too.


36 posted on 09/07/2011 5:58:14 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: piperpilot

I actually learned on Free Republic back in 2000 that the Presbyterian Church USA gives abortion medical coverage to their pastors. I was totally SHOCKED.

I confronted my pastor about it, and he admitted it. I told him I could not have my donations paying for abortions and left the church. I had gone to that denomination my entire life.

The pastor never stood up in front of the congregation on Sunday mornings and said that donations are paying for abortions. At that time it was all hidden unless you looked online.

Then I tried to find a pro-life Protestant church and discovered that all the main-line denominations are pro-choice.

Someone told me about a pro-life church which is about 15 minutes away from us, and we started attending. About a year later, we became members. We’re happy there because it’s totally conservative.

http://www.wesleyan.org/index


37 posted on 09/07/2011 5:58:19 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Redleg Duke

And the many of the individual churches former Congregational Church, now called the Church of Christ.


38 posted on 09/07/2011 6:17:12 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: piperpilot
And here's a big steaming pile of manure for you...

Time to find a new church.

39 posted on 09/07/2011 6:17:12 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Redleg Duke

Let’s try that again.

And many of the individual congregations of the former Congregational Church, now called the United Church of Christ. I believe the merger happened around 1959-60.

The NCC is the body that pushed the return of Elian Gonzalez to Communist Cuba. Their former Nat. leader handled the negotiations.


40 posted on 09/07/2011 6:21:12 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Redleg Duke

Let’s try that again.

And many of the individual congregations of the former Congregational Church, now called the United Church of Christ. I believe the merger happened around 1959-60.

The NCC is the body that pushed the return of Elian Gonzalez to Communist Cuba. Their former Nat. leader handled the negotiations.


41 posted on 09/07/2011 6:21:12 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Redleg Duke

Let’s try that again.

And many of the individual congregations of the former Congregational Church, now called the United Church of Christ. I believe the merger happened around 1959-60.

The NCC is the body that pushed the return of Elian Gonzalez to Communist Cuba. Their former Nat. leader handled the negotiations.


42 posted on 09/07/2011 6:21:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: piperpilot

Here is a list of member denominations from their website:

African Methodist Episcopal Church

The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church

Alliance of Baptists

American Baptist Churches in the USA

Apostolic Catholic Church

Diocese of the Armenian Church of America

Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

Christian Methodist Episcopal Church

Church of the Brethren

Community of Christ

The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America

The Episcopal Church

Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Friends United Meeting

Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

Hungarian Reformed Church in America

International Council of Community Churches

Korean Presbyterian Church in America

Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church

Mar Thoma Church

Moravian Church in America Northern Province
and Southern Province

National Baptist Convention of America

National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.

National Missionary Baptist Convention of America

Orthodox Church in America

Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA

Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends

Polish National Catholic Church of America

Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.

Reformed Church in America

Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada


43 posted on 09/07/2011 6:25:46 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: chadwimc

You pray for your nation’s leaders, even when you disagree with them. You don’t have to blindly follow them, but don’t forget their position. Spend some time reading about David and Sol.


44 posted on 09/07/2011 7:06:38 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: piperpilot

ping..read later


45 posted on 09/07/2011 7:23:27 AM PDT by Dianer0839 (King Aragorn says, Hobbits bow to NO-ONE)
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To: piperpilot

That prayer sounds like ipecac in print!


46 posted on 09/07/2011 7:48:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: LevinFan

I understand the bible. I know the verses. I can’t do it.

Would you pray for the elected leaders in 1930s Germany?


47 posted on 09/07/2011 10:32:01 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: piperpilot

Prayers for your discussion with your minister, piperpilot.


48 posted on 09/07/2011 10:39:23 AM PDT by Tea Party Hobbit (The RINOs lack all conviction, and the Dems are full of passionate intensity)
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To: chadwimc

FRiend,

Asking for prayer for our leaders is not so we can pray for their comfort, success, blessings, etc.

It is so we can pray that they would turn to Jesus, that they would govern in a Godly way, that the nation would elect Godly representatives, etc.


49 posted on 09/07/2011 1:24:34 PM PDT by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: A. Patriot

Glad the United Methodists, for all their flaws, are not on it. I’d hate to have embarass my wife by calling it a big steaming pile, gathering my family and walking out.


50 posted on 09/07/2011 1:29:05 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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