Posted on 09/07/2011 4:51:42 PM PDT by kcvl
Ya, that is my attitude. My mom has dementia and my brother is mentally retarded. I am all they have. And the govt already siphons away dollars from them to able-bodied drug addicts on welfare? It’s insane.
There needs to be a lot more investigative work to ferret out fake ppl on welfare, like a bounty system to videotape them. (”Bad back? Why are you playing golf and gardening?”)
is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures,
There is nothing unreasonable in requiring someone that is asking for taxpayer dollars to support them being asked to take a drug test. You don’t want to test then don;t apply for welfare.........
Hey ACLU, you want to drive-get a license. You want to be a doctor-get a medical license. Lots of things have preconditions.
Be a US citizen and still be bresthing to vote, for example.
If they want OUR money, then they will follow the rules that are established.
That's the part I don't like. I don't mind drug tests to qualify for welfare, but child abuse charges for failing a drug test is stretching it a bit.
I had this crazy idea about this the other day. I thought this idea would flush out all the people who are not serious about improving their lives while stifling the ACLU types, who act like we are being unfair. Actually, I mean the democrat types that say this would be some sort of “disenfranchisement” of peoples’ “rights”
Let’s say people who get “benefits” now at the rate they are getting them now could continue to get them at the same rate they get them now, if they submit to a drug test.
If they don’t submit to a drug test the get some percentage, like 33% of the normal payment.
Kind of a rough idea/bad idea probably but this would ferret out people’s real feelings on this matter.
If you want to do something that makes you lazy and not want to work you will get enough money to sustain life, and if you want to continue to work toward bettering yourself, you will get more help.
Man it seemed like such a better idea until I had to try and type it out.
Aw, don’t get me started on the lousy no good ACLU!
I’m soon 63 years old and just want for my wife and I to live out our days in peace but the ACLU thinks we haven’t paid for our sins enough!
BTW, she can now see better than me, G-d bless her eye surgeon, and outscores me bigtime at the pistol range but I’m still murder at 300 yards with the AR-15.
And anyway, it’s going to be the tactical shotgun that decides most outcomes where we live.
Golden years my foot!
Picture me smiling, FRiend.
Here’s my idea of welfare reform:
(document presented in language of applicant).....Public Assistance Implementation and Usage Contract.
This contract, entered into on (date) and expiring on (18 months from implementation date) by the (state agency) and applicant(s) listed herein (must submit names of applicant and children born to her via birth records),allows for the provision of food,housing allowance,child care and education for the purposes of job placement during the contract period,and is understood by all parties concerned that the provision of aforementioned assistance is on a one-time basis,not to be repeated or reinstated at any time for any reason between the applicant(s) and the agency named herein,and is for the aforementioned time period only,and can only be implemented following presentation of documents proving legal citizenship status and a drug screening process,both of which are to be conducted by the agency.
Once legal citizenship status and drug screen results are known by the agency and the applicant and found to be favorable,this contract can then be implemented.The following covenants hereby apply and are agreed upon by both the named agency herein and the applicant(s) seeking assistance (failure of any one of these covenants will be considered a contract breach on the part of the applicant,and will result in immediate termination of the contract;assistance will be terminated immediately and can never be reinstated at any time in the future for any reason:
applicant will submit to random home visits which will be unannounced and will occur during the 5-day work week,normally during the early afternoon hours;
applicant will submit to random drug testing as directed by the agency;
applicant must not conceive,adopt (formally or informally,including family members,immediate or extended) marry or cohabitate during the contract period;
applicant must attend a one-year vocational program via a voucher provided by the agency;applicant must attend each class ( two absences will be allowed during the contract period and a doctor’s note must be submitted upon returning to class for each absence) and a transportation voucher will be provided by the agency for transportation during class hours;child care will be provided by the agency during class hours only.
Once applicant graduates from vocational training, a two-month job-placement period will commence,with child care provided by the agency; Upon applicant’s employment,there will be an additional 4 months of ongoing assistance to allow applicant enough time to establish themselves in their occupation and to make child-care arrangements for after the contract period.
Once this contract has reached its expiration date,the assistance provided,all provisions and covenants and financial considerations as well,will cease and terminate permanently.The applicant is barred from any and all future assistance.
I,________________ hereby agree to adhere to all covenants,rules,etc of this contract. I realize and fully understand that I am bound by this contract in order to receive assistance in any form,and that any violation or breach will result in my receiving any form of assistance any further. I agree further that this contract was fully explained to me by the agency caseworker and that I will fully comply. (sign & date here)____________________________
Agency hereby agrees to and will implement to the best of its ability and obligations,all covenants of this contract.
(agency sign & date)_______________________
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