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Many Afghans Haven't Heard of 9/11
Wall Street Journal ^ | By YAROSLAV TROFIMOV

Posted on 09/07/2011 5:58:29 PM PDT by AfricanChristian

KABUL—The Sept. 11 attacks that triggered the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan also uprooted 16-year-old Abdul Ghattar from his village in war-torn Helmand province, bringing him to a desolate refugee camp on the edge of Kabul.

Yet Mr. Ghattar stared blankly when asked whether he knew about al Qaeda's strike on the U.S., launched a decade ago from Afghan soil.

"Never heard of it," he shrugged as he lined up for water at the camp's well, which serves thousands of fellow refugees. "I have no idea why the Americans are in my country."

n a nearby tent that is the camp's school, his teacher, 22-year-old Mullah Said Nabi Agha, didn't fare much better. He said he has never seen the iconic image of the Twin Towers burning. He was vaguely aware that some kind of explosion had occurred in America.

"I was a child when it happened, and now I am an adult, and the Americans are still here," Mr. Agha said. "I think the Americans did it themselves, so they could invade Afghanistan."

The teacher's view is by no means rare here. The events of Sept. 11, 2001, of course, are known to educated Afghans, and to many residents of big cities. But that isn't always the case elsewhere in a predominantly rural country where 42% of the population is under the age of 14, and 72% of adults are illiterate. With few villages reached by television or electricity, news here is largely spread by word of mouth.‬

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1 posted on 09/07/2011 5:58:31 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: AfricanChristian

Yeah, we did it in purpose because that scum infested hellhole has SO much we wanted.

Even for a complete illiterate, this guy is a moron.


2 posted on 09/07/2011 6:02:18 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: AfricanChristian
"I think the Americans did it themselves, so they could invade Afghanistan."

Yes, Afghanistan is such a lovely place that the Americans and the Brits and the Canadians and the Aussies decided to invade to take it away from the Afghan people.

I'm afraid we are fighting extreme ignorance and backwardness. Sometimes when ignorant and backward societies clash with other societies, war results. In wars, people die.

Kill as many taliban and their sympathizers as possible. Leave a token force behind in Afghanistan to keep an eye on things. If there is a hint that any force or faction is planning on hitting a western target, kill that force or faction. Kill their relatives. Kill their bankers and the people they do business with. Kill their friends. Destroy their homes and hideouts. Poison their wells. Salt the earth they live on and destroy their crops. Wipe them out. Repeat as necessary.

3 posted on 09/07/2011 6:07:51 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: piytar

You miss the point. The Saudis and Pakis did it, not the Afghans or Iraqis.


4 posted on 09/07/2011 6:08:55 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: piytar

Winning the information war is extremely important, both Al Jazeera and Al Qaeda understand that.

If you just allow Al Qaeda (and God knows who in Pakistan)to fill the airwaves with junk, without counteracting, this is what you get.

I come from Africa, and I interact daily with illiterates. The range of crazy beliefs they subscribe to will shock you. So that guy’s response is nothing out of the ordinary.


5 posted on 09/07/2011 6:10:20 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: JimWayne
Muslims did it. We should have given 72 hours notice to evacuate the city of Kabul. Then we should have detonated a 50 kt weapon above the city.

Following our display, each Muslim nation would have been on notice that their theocracies and dictatorships were to be disbanded within 30 days. Failure to comply would result in the destruction of one city per week (with the same 72 hour notice) until there was an agreement.

6 posted on 09/07/2011 6:19:50 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: AfricanChristian

What people say they know and what they actually know may be different things, especially if they’re looking to score religio-political points. On the one hand, Muslims deny that Muslims carried out 9/11, and on the other, praise it as a great achievement for Islam.


7 posted on 09/07/2011 6:21:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: AfricanChristian

How many American children know the answer to this question? I have asked several who have no idea what 9/11 means.


8 posted on 09/07/2011 6:21:40 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (A house divided against itself cannot stand.” Abraham Lincoln)
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To: AfricanChristian

This is b/c the Army hasn’t been fighting the information war. We’re all about winning hearts and minds with schools and overblown make-work projects, but we haven’t even bothered to educate people as to why exactly things are the way they are in their country. Some (possibly most) wouldn’t even believe it, but a few would, and that’s better than what we have now.


9 posted on 09/07/2011 6:23:19 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: AfricanChristian
Dig it. F*ing cockroaches never heard of indoor plumbing either.
10 posted on 09/07/2011 6:26:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AfricanChristian
The range of crazy beliefs they subscribe to will shock you.

Screw Africa--you could say this same thing about the southside of Chicago.

11 posted on 09/07/2011 6:28:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AfricanChristian

“I think the Americans did it themselves, so they could invade Afghanistan.”

Believe me when I say that if it were up to me, your country and all predominately Islamic countries would be bathed in the cleansing fire of the atom, until nothing was left but glowing dust and glass.


12 posted on 09/07/2011 6:34:29 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: JimWayne

Nobody ever said that the Afghanis or Iraqis did 9/11. We’re not in Afghanistan to punish them. We’re there because the Taliban refused to hand over Bin Laden, and continues to support terrorist groups and training camps. The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 other than our policy changed after that... Such that we would no longer sit back and watch dangerous men acquire and proliferate massive weapons anymore.


13 posted on 09/07/2011 6:37:02 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: AfricanChristian

I want so much to nuke that sh!thole.

LLS


14 posted on 09/07/2011 6:42:10 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: buccaneer81

Just drop a nuke on mecca and game over.

LLS


15 posted on 09/07/2011 6:44:07 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: AfricanChristian
"I think the Americans did it themselves, so they could invade Afghanistan."

Sounds like a DUmmmie.

16 posted on 09/07/2011 6:44:10 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: AfricanChristian

“I have no idea why the Americans are in my country.”

Right........
Ever think of asking?


17 posted on 09/07/2011 6:47:33 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: piytar

The article is puzzling; We....should not bomb Afghanistan, because some of the people there do not know about 9-11..?

Hmm.

That they do not know 9-11 provides a type of DEFENSE? That’s really weird:

That’s like a I have a loaded gun with 2 men standing before me. One understands I hate him, the other does not. And so I swifty draw and kill the witting one, and leave unShot the man who knows nothing of my hate.

See? I still don’t get it.

Why do they need to UNDERSTAND us before we kill them?


18 posted on 09/07/2011 6:53:00 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: AfricanChristian

“that guy’s reaction is nothing out of the ordinary”
——and as I just learned, but already assumed, it’s shared
by a great many Egyptians.


19 posted on 09/07/2011 6:54:00 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Dont go tryin to get on my good side.


20 posted on 09/07/2011 6:58:25 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: buccaneer81

Not very different from the scenario I promoted about 4 or 5 months after 9-11 on FR, and which earned me the kudo “I would vote for you if you ran for President!” from at least one FReeper.
My scenario involved specifically going after infrastructure first, like Saudi oil fields, just to give
them a taste of how serious we were.Unfortunately we weren’t that serious, preferring to win an unwinnable century-long battle for the usual elusive “hearts and minds”.


21 posted on 09/07/2011 6:58:37 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: gaijin

Men far away resolved to hurt us. They reached out very far, and then did that.

Receiving the blow, we then reached out very far, and set up camp in their home, shooting them, bombing them from above, and taking over their government.

We tromp around there and make daily life —not just planning bombings in the USA —very hard for them.

It’s not just revenge or hate, but instead putting the violent battle into their home, and away from our homes.

The only thing we could do better is stop all this stupid, “human landscape” crypto-sociology mumbo-jumbo and building schools for girls.

No US taxes for Afghani girl schools (though I like girls). Also no USMC protection for poppy fields.

Let’s just speak the language Afghanis understand —shooting folks and breaking stuff —that’s mission enough. They understand that completely.


22 posted on 09/07/2011 7:01:25 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: AfricanChristian

Not a big surprise, new travels slow in the 7th century.


23 posted on 09/07/2011 7:12:26 PM PDT by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: Ramius
We’re there because the Taliban refused to hand over Bin Laden, and continues to support terrorist groups and training camps.

Then why is the US and NATO giving Al-Qaeda terrorists money, arms, training, supplies, intelligence, and air cover to attack the Libyans?

Why did the US and NATO support the Al-Qaeda backed KLA in their attacks on the Serbs?

Shouldn't Zbigniew Brzezinski be held responsible for arming and training Osama Bin Laden?


24 posted on 09/07/2011 8:32:20 PM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: AfricanChristian

Many Afghans wipe their backside with their hand after defecating on the ground. What’s your point?


25 posted on 09/07/2011 8:49:34 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Roninf5-1

Nice straw man you got there. Lemme guess... You get your talking points from The Nation?


26 posted on 09/07/2011 9:37:40 PM PDT by Ramius (Or getrsonally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Delta 21

I forgot, if they hide out in Pakistan, kill them there. I’m not bloodthirsty, but death seems to be the only thing that stops these pricks.


27 posted on 09/08/2011 4:27:23 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I wonder about that.

First of all, we should have no qualms about destroying any monument or "holy site" or strategic target in enemy territory. I would have no problem nuking every holy site in islam, if it would have the desired effect.

I'm not saying it wouldn't work, just wondering how effective it would be.

28 posted on 09/08/2011 4:34:33 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Read the koran and you will know... if mecca disappears... islam dies.

LLS


29 posted on 09/08/2011 6:30:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: LibLieSlayer
That's good to know.

When you have a strategic target, the elimination of which can devastate your society, it's not good to piss off nations with nuclear weapons.

30 posted on 09/08/2011 6:44:01 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Its one of their primary goals. Im just here to help them out .


31 posted on 09/08/2011 7:16:56 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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