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America's War On Terrorism Never Existed(Barf Alert!!!)
IBD Editorials ^ | September 9, 2011 | Leftwing lunatic EUGENE ROBINSON

Posted on 09/09/2011 4:37:33 PM PDT by Kaslin

The war our enemies began on Sept. 11, 2001, is long over. Perhaps now, after 10 years of anxiety and self-doubt, we can acknowledge our victory and begin the postwar renewal and reconciliation that the nation so desperately needs.

There never was a "war on terrorism." It wasn't "terrorism" that crashed airliners into buildings on that brilliant Tuesday morning. The attacks were carried out by a 19-member assault team from al-Qaida, a terrorist organization then being sheltered by the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. There most definitely was a war against al-Qaida, and we won.

Within four months, U.S. invasion forces had routed the Taliban and scattered what was left of al-Qaida to the four winds. Maybe that was the moment we should have recognized our victory.

Maybe it was March 1, 2003, when Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the man most responsible for designing and orchestrating the 9/11 attacks, was captured.

Or maybe it was the moment in 2004 when Afghanistan's fledgling democracy held its first presidential election.

By the middle of the decade, we had accomplished every rational goal of the war that 9/11 began. Al-Qaida's leader and founder, Osama bin Laden, was still at large, but this meant we needed to conduct a continuing manhunt, not a continuing war. We should have recognized this distinction.

Needless War

We couldn't, though, because George W. Bush and Dick Cheney plunged us into an unnecessary war in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was one of the most bloodthirsty, power-mad despots on the planet, but he had nothing to do with 9/11. He had no weapons of mass destruction. Even if he had possessed WMD, there was no reason to think he would target the U.S.

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1 posted on 09/09/2011 4:37:36 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Eugene Robinson is a smart man. Too bad he never shows it.


2 posted on 09/09/2011 4:45:29 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like Ron Paul (and I don’t mean that as a complement)


3 posted on 09/09/2011 4:47:06 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Kaslin

Sorry Eugene, the war isn’t over, and we’re not in a struggle with just 19 individuals. The war is an existential war with jihadist Islam, which began 1400 years ago. This is just the most recent interation.


4 posted on 09/09/2011 4:53:59 PM PDT by mcswan
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To: nuconvert
Sounds like Ron Paul (and I don’t mean that as a complement)

Yep! Paul, Robinson and throw in a Fat Rosie O'Donnell, Janeane Garofalo, Whoopy, etc. and you couldn't couldn't fill half a thimble with smarts.

5 posted on 09/09/2011 5:11:34 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Kaslin
Dear hyper partisan political bigot Eugene Robinson;

We had this conversation before. Please, after 10 years, quit mindlessly clinging to your knee-jerk political bigotry and learn the facts.

Iraq was a vital front in our war on Al Qeda. It is the reason we are on the verge of winning this war

Why Iraq

One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the “Anti War movement”) of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US’s National “News” media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.

Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.

To start with Saddam's Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it's diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it's military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.

The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.

Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The “Holy” soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.

There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect” to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like “No Blood for Oil” or “We support the Troops, bring them home” or dumbest of all “We are creating terrorists” then to actually THINK.

Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their “god” will reward them for killing us.

So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.

Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming “We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad” and recruit the next round of “holy warriors”. Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -

If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Winston Churchill the war.

6 posted on 09/09/2011 5:18:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Great post


7 posted on 09/09/2011 5:35:26 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Hey Eugene! When some Al'Qeida zealot blows up your family, give me a call & I'll explain it to you. Meantime, STFU.
8 posted on 09/09/2011 5:57:46 PM PDT by Thom Pain (OMG ABO)
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To: Bushbacker1

“you couldn’t couldn’t fill half a thimble with smarts.”
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True but you would have enough “organic fertilizer” to farm most of Georgia.


9 posted on 09/10/2011 9:44:45 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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