Lets get something straight. An anthropoligist examined the bones of the people killed and said that they weren’t shot but were bludgened to death with tomahawks. Clearly it was the indians and not the Mormons who killed them. And, the indians were justified because the people had left poisoned meat out for the indians, killing several.
Mormons killed them. But your attempt at satire was pretty good.
Wait just a minute...here!! Are YOU saying the AP is wrong here...and you have evidence that proves this?
Different story...but Quanah Parker dealt with deceit and lies all the time...from whites and Indians both.
I'd gather the real story, isn't what you think.
Nice try at revisional history. Henry Lee and others led the group that murdered the Gentiles at the direction of the Church Leaders. This has been acknowledged by the Church.
Yeah, right. But weren’t those Indians something-ites, descended from the lost tribe of Israel? Another claim for which there is zero historical proof?
Do you really think whites didn't scalp? Mutilate? Torture? Capture? Kill women and children?
Do you really think whites wouldn't try to "fake" a killing...to blame it on Indians?
And do you REALLY think it's "clear"? I mean REALLY?
Baloney. The evidence is pretty clear what happened there. The Mormons used Indians to hide their identity and when that failed, they took matters into their own hands. A Mormon was executed for planning this disgrace. Take your revisionist history elsewhere.
No, you get something straight Brigham Young ordered the massacre.
That’s pretty funny. Next you’ll say J Smith got the Book of Mormon off of some gold plates.
I went to high school with Jock.
If you are relating your post as fact, it is evident you have done no actual research into the massacres history. Or, you are attempting to justify what occurred by rewriting said history of September 11-16, 1857.
It is true that some of the Mormons dressed as Indians committed the massacre with the help of local Paiute Indians. But when they attacked, they found that the Arkansas party was well armed, knew how to use those arms and for five days fought back very hard. After killing and wounding some of the Paiutes, (AKA Diggers) who were foolish and had no idea how to fight. The Mormons then came up with the scheme for some Whites to parley and John D. Lee went in with a white flag of truce to offer the party safety from the Indians (both real and fake Mormon ones) if they would surrender their firearms. After much distrust, the party finally agreed, once done, women and children separated from the males, the Mormons and Indians then slaughtered all of the defenseless party except for 17 of the very young. These youngest were then adopted by Mormon families, but some were very aware and remembered had happened.
John D. Lee was the only one ever held accountable for the massacre, after his trial and conviction, in 1877 he was taken back to site of the Massacre at Mountain Meadows. There he was made to sit upon his own coffin and executed by a firing squad.
One of the saddest things I have read was related by one of the survivors. She said her family had just sat down for a breakfast of fried rabbit, when her sisters head exploded.
Welcome to reality. You're acting like Mitt Romney when he's confronted by inconvenient facts - deny the truth and lash out at the truth-tellers.
Remark quoted in its entirety, to stress the type thing that some will stoop to post to revise history. Did you really believe you could slip that bilge past alert members?
The Mormons had their blood all over their hands with this massacre, and I am surprised one their flock would stoop to try to revise the story over 150 years later. Nice try.
I mean I now revising and creating facts is a Mormon habit, but when the higher ups even come clean...
mormon turds. I had family that were regulars on wagon trains. Those days were hard and somewhat innocent but evil still existed. The bravery and courage of those early Americans is inspiring.
"Let me be perfectly clear..."
"I am a true believer in the gospel of Jesus Christ, I do not believe everything that is now being taught and practiced by Brigham Young.
I do not care who hears it. It is my last word - it is so.
I believe he is leading the people astray, downward to destruction.
But I believe in the gospel that was taught in its purity by Joseph Smith, in former days.
I have my reasons for it.
"I studied to make this man's [Brigham Young] will my pleasure for thirty years.
See, now, what I have come to this day!
"I have been sacrificed in a cowardly, dastardly manner." (Lee enunciated this sentence with marked emphasis.)
You are correct that an anthropoligist examined the bones, but contrary to your fantasy, the anthropoligist declared that they were NOT bludgened to death. Rather, it was clearly evident that they WERE shot in the head.
You appear to be an ignorant zealot attempting to distort the facts and spread lies. Get a life, Buckwheat.