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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #5 - Sep. 12, 2011 8pm/5pm: Tampa, FL (CNN)
2012 Election Central ^ | Sept. 12, 2011 | CNN/Tea Party Express

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: Leofl

Bachmann kicks Perry in the crotch on gardasil, insinuating corruption...Perry aide connected to Merck, money...Perry responds, says if you’re suggesting...I’m offended.

Perry admits (as in last debate) that he went about it wrong.

Bachmann started out on stage by kissing Romney, now has gored Perry. I’m not liking her tonight.


701 posted on 09/12/2011 6:15:48 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes, Wolf has been the best of the moderators so far...and by far. He is not completely without bias, but he is very much in bounds in his questions and letting the candidates respond.


702 posted on 09/12/2011 6:15:48 PM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Yaelle

WHOO HOO!!!! HIT! To be bought for 5 grand! LOL.


703 posted on 09/12/2011 6:15:52 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: DRey

I think Perry wanted to save lives.

There was an opt out.

I liked his “if I could be bought for $5000” line was brilliant.

Santorum and Bachmann look like asses here.

Perry didn’t do it for money. He wanted to prevent cancer and Guardasil does.


704 posted on 09/12/2011 6:15:55 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Yaelle

You notice he realized what he stepped into by the time he finished the sentence.

He’s gonna pay for that one.


705 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:02 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: GatorGirl

We all have.


706 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:13 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Yaelle
So he IS a whore and we are just haggling over the price?

Are you just recently becoming interested in politics?

707 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:13 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Ron Paul is so much like Newt its scary. He's another 80/20 type of candidate.80% of what they both say is brilliant stuff.

But,its the other 20% that makes you choke on your coffee, hide under the bed,and pretend like you never saw either one of these guys. Its sad but that's the truth.

708 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:18 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: mylife

Where are these questioners getting their Official Tea Party affiliations? I don’t have a card.


709 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: bvw

I agree that this is a great GREAT debate this evening. It is a step above the others so far in both the moderating and the candidates. Thankful CNN and Wolfe Blitzer are providing a professional debate low (not completely empty, but low) on bias.


710 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:48 PM PDT by casinva (IMAGINE: PERRY, PALIN, AND CAIN STANDING SIDE BY SIDE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION)
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To: mylife
Bachmann must have wax in her ears.

She didnt hear the part about “opt out”

And that Perry already admitted that he didn't do it right.

I like Bachmann, but she started spinning there.

711 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:48 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: rodguy911

She’d be outstanding wouldn’t she?


712 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:48 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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To: justsaynomore
Bachmann and Santorum go for the jugular on Perry over gardasi.

I think that my leave a mark. Romney must be thrilled!

713 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:48 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Winstons Julia
Newt is the smartest person on the stage

He always has been the most intelligent. He has been around a long time, and is more like a statesman than a politician. He is best on international relations than anyone. And I think he would be the most forceful against our enemies. I just wish the negatives against him would be erased, or go away because he would be a super candidate against Obama. But the GOP won't give him that chance. He should be used in some top position. It is time for him to have some power in our government again.

Cain has the best insight about commerce and our economy. I would love to see him get more support and a position on our next Republican president's cabinet. He has a clear vision and no nonsense approach. And he is very concise and direct...something totally missing from most politicians.

These are the best two men, IMHO.

714 posted on 09/12/2011 6:16:57 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: GatorGirl
Both my girl and my boy were forced to get a “government injection” a number of times throughout their lives.

I'm in Texas and my kids weren't forced to get a Guardisil shot. Ever.

715 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:02 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Winstons Julia

Perry got KO’d bad

Perry would be offended by a 5k bribe...


716 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RitaOK

Rick hits back by saying he raised over $30M, so he’s offended that she’d think he could be bought for $5K?

Heck, he’s no two-bit crony capitalist, he’s a 2 million bit crony capitalist!


717 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:07 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DRey

I think that Gov Perry covered the Gardasil question correctly and unequivocally.


718 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:09 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: Yaelle

LOL. That definitely was inartfully said.

Now I love what Santorum just said. That was a great point!


719 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:19 PM PDT by Shelayne (He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! *Rev 22:20)
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To: mylife
Here's where Wolf took great glee in keeping this topic going and encouraging Bachmann and Santorum to keep piling on.

In the grand scheme of the economy, jobs and deficits this garnered way too much time.

720 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:19 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: GatorGirl

Yes, that is my question. How is this vaccine different from the mandatory vaccines that are given routinely in school districts across the country? Because this one is for a sexually transmitted disease?


721 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:22 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: SamAdams76

Good grief...what do these people think an opt out is?! Girls were not getting shots against parent permission!


722 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:28 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: newzjunkey
I can't be bought for $5,000 either.



So, start the bidding at $5,001.


LOL
723 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:33 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: callisto

Two weeks ago in Key Largo I tried to get Rubio to commit to either potus or vp he won’t.


724 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:42 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: All
Romney asked about national sales tax. Says it would make us more competitive and level the playing field. Says middle income people would be hurt under "Fair Tax." Says no taxes on savings, cap gains for middle income.

Question about executive orders, what circumstances and how often used? Ron Paul says it's been abused but has a proper role. Never should be used to legislate. Perry asked about Gardasil executive order. Admits it was a mistake. Mentions opt-out.

Bachmann suddenly has only 3 children? Attacking ObamaCare. Bachmann mentioning the business connection. Perry names Merck and says it was a 5000 donation and if Bachmann thinks he can be bought for 5000 out of a 30 million campaign fun, he's offended.

Santorum saying the policy was wrong, not just the way it was done. He wants opt-in and he's joining with Bachmann in ignoring the opt-out provision by saying there was no choice.

725 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: newzjunkey
Immaculated little Texas girl crying!

Go Perry!

726 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Yaelle

Caught that.

Bachmann was too polite to say: “Well what number COULD you be bought for?”


727 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:48 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: Winstons Julia

>> Santorum and Bachmann look like asses here.

Agreed.


728 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: MagUSNRET

Cain speaks from experience re: reducing healthcare costs.

Romney getting question re: RomneyCare.


729 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:53 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Winstons Julia

If there’s an opt out, and since he admitted it was a mistake to sign a law without researching it, why not just rescind the law and make the vaccine optional? HPV is not a communicable disease, and quite frankly, its tantamount to encouraging young teens to have sex.


730 posted on 09/12/2011 6:17:53 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: Lady Lucky

Yeah. I think Bachmann just said good bye.


731 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:00 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Lady Lucky

She’s a shrill power hungry witch tonight. She can kiss it. Oh that’s right she already did, when she kissed Romney.


732 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:00 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: swpa_mom

Tried to tell people bachmann was a dirty fighter. Got creamed for it. also said earlier today that she would lowblow Perry and after tonight, she is gone.


733 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: MagUSNRET

You would think he would have learned a lesson from Charlie Crist.


734 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: All
Perry is not doing well. If he can't do well here, he will not do well against Obama and company. He has some work to do, IMO.
735 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:11 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Lady Lucky

If Perry’s the candidate the Gardasil issue will come up again. Dueling with Bachmann is good practice for him.


736 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:11 PM PDT by McLynnan (When Will Obama Visit the Texas Wildfire Devastation and Show He Cares?)
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To: SamAdams76
Perry is taking an awful beating over those vaccinations by executive order...

He's the front runner and it's to be expected.

We want a strong candidate to go against Hussein, let him deal with the fire and come out tougher.

737 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:20 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: mylife
She didnt hear the part about “opt out”

It has only been stated over and over but some people only hear what they want to hear and others lie about what they heard.

738 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:28 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: Jane Long

I used to live in Ft. Bend Co. and Jane Long’s picture and story hung in the little museum there. :)


739 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:31 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: mylife

Cain keeping cool and presidential

Romney talking fast nervous

agreeing with Herman ???

Im running for president...

run on home Mitty


740 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: novemberslady

Yes I agree. But She is not on the stage...yet. Of the people who are... the only one who looks like he can handle things is Newt. Scary.


741 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:40 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: Yaelle

LOL!


742 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:40 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: rodguy911

Perry is a loser

Palin 2012 or bust


743 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:45 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or flippin bust)
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To: Leofl

Personally, I think Bachman and Santorum looked totally political with their hysterical rants.


744 posted on 09/12/2011 6:18:53 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: KansasGirl; All

Can someone remind me how many kids got the inoculation?


745 posted on 09/12/2011 6:19:03 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Bachmann started out on stage by kissing Romney, now has gored Perry. I’m not liking her tonight

I am. Perry isn't infallable, nor are the rest. Michelle did a great "gotcha" moment.

746 posted on 09/12/2011 6:19:12 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: dragnet2

perry just got rombot.


747 posted on 09/12/2011 6:19:16 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: RitaOK

Bachmann is over as far as I’m concerned.


748 posted on 09/12/2011 6:19:16 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: hope

...or carrot juice.

He wants to be the first orange president.


749 posted on 09/12/2011 6:19:16 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah: Are you gonna fish or cut bait?)
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To: zzeeman; All

Newt has a place... but I’m not donating my money to Newt. That’s kind of the issue.


750 posted on 09/12/2011 6:19:24 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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