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2012 Presidential Matchups Obama 46%, Perry 39% (Rasmussen)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | September 15, 2011 | Rasmussen

Posted on 09/16/2011 11:23:42 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

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To: ari-freedom

I find this poll hard to believe that GOP won +8 in a district in NYC, and +22 in a district that went 0bama in 2008 just in the past week.


81 posted on 09/16/2011 12:18:01 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: cuban leaf

Perry will lose far more votes on this than he will ever gain. You clearly overestimate the intelligence of the American people and their addiction to entitlements. Historically the left has crushed the GOP on Social Security from Goldwater forward.

If Perry wins the nomination he will be defeated.


82 posted on 09/16/2011 12:18:43 PM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: CA Conservative
Actually, I think this is probably a good snapshot of the current state of play. Perry got hit hard on the Gardasil and immigration issues, and a dip in the polls was to be expected. What will be more telling is how the polls look in a couple more weeks - will they start trending down, or will they recover? I don't dismiss polls just because they have information I don't like (unlike the supporter of a non-candidate I know), but neither do I take the results of a single poll as definitive. Rather, I look at the trends - what happens over several polls from different pollsters? If they all show movement one direction or another, then that is probably how the race is moving at that time.

You only single out Palin supporters. However, there are supporters of all candidates who dismiss polls that they don't like and they support polls that they do like.

That said, there is no way to prove that a poll this far out from an election is accurate. Because of that, polls this far out are at risk to being inaccurate.

I'm no fan of Perry, but that said, I think that a poll that shows Perry seven points behind Obama at this point in time, are not credible.

83 posted on 09/16/2011 12:24:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: riri

You are so right on the loopy seniors who have to purposely have their hands over their ears to not get the dang picture. You know what is happening is that they are having to use their SS check for one thing—more health & Rx insurance.


84 posted on 09/16/2011 12:27:47 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: ari-freedom

BTW, contragulations to you in NY-9, the results of which are another reason to think that this poll is inaccurate.


85 posted on 09/16/2011 12:29:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I don’t trust anything Rasmussen puts out. He’s in ROmney’s camp.


86 posted on 09/16/2011 12:31:37 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Frankly, I think this poll is seriously flawed. There’s no way that all Republicans are behind ZerO in the poll if it is accurate.


87 posted on 09/16/2011 12:31:46 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: McGavin999

Nothing and nobody can ever make me like Romney.

And certainly NOT Jimmy Carter!


88 posted on 09/16/2011 12:34:48 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! If you support Sarah Palin, & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: MEGoody

Oops! Sorry, I guess my previous statement was not quite accurate - it does show Romney beating Obama. Nevertheless, the poll is clearly flawed. At minimum, I would say any of the top 3 would beat Obama’s pants off at this point.


89 posted on 09/16/2011 12:34:55 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Can I state what should be the obvious? Partisans of candidates are going to claim to a pollster that they will not vote for a primary competitor. I’d probably tell a pollster that I would not vote for Perry or Romney, just to make MY candidate look stronger. Now, I don’t like either guy, but if it comes down to it in November, I’ll vote for a guy stumbling off a bar stool over the Failure. Bob


90 posted on 09/16/2011 12:35:44 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: onyx

I know, wasn’t that hysterical?


91 posted on 09/16/2011 12:37:26 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: hocndoc

Lol, and how many returns did you get on the google search. What book was I talking about, none, what book was the thread about none. So what does a book have to do with it nothing.


92 posted on 09/16/2011 12:38:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: onyx

Personally, when Carter belched his support for Romney, I ordered a bumper sticker, “Carter’s Choice: Milt Romney”. Too bad he lost the Tom Ridge endorsement! Bob


93 posted on 09/16/2011 12:39:25 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

SO.... Liberal, progressive, and socialist outlets want Myth Romney to run against the empty suit Obama?...

The question one must ask himself is WHY?...
Is Myth Romney Plan “B”... and by the way is Rick Perry Plan “C”..

For sure they do not want Bachmann to win...
They probably believe Caine can be outfoxed or bamboozled.. in some way..

The way they do with ALL BLACKS.. from MLK to Louis Farrand..


94 posted on 09/16/2011 12:41:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Folks don’t take the bait. The Rats are effectively dividing republicans. obuttface is the only candidate on the side of the marxist left, aka demorats. Perry has considerable competition and any opponent of bo’s will be thoroughly vilified by the statist media.


95 posted on 09/16/2011 12:41:29 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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None of these candidates can beat Obama. We need a new candidate!
96 posted on 09/16/2011 12:41:29 PM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: McGavin999

LOL. Yep. The kiss of death and Carter also bothered to thank Michele Bachmann for her college day support, the old commie bastard.

I’m thankful he hates Sarah Palin.

:)


97 posted on 09/16/2011 12:42:56 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! If you support Sarah Palin, & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: molson209

Bull the man has a history of being very accurate In his polls.


98 posted on 09/16/2011 12:44:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: alstewartfan
Personally, when Carter belched his support for Romney, I ordered a bumper sticker, “Carter’s Choice: Milt Romney”. Too bad he lost the Tom Ridge endorsement! Bob

ROTFL.

Lucky ole Huntsman, huh?

99 posted on 09/16/2011 12:44:32 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! If you support Sarah Palin, & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The problem with polling a general election during a primary season, especially when only one party is having a real primary, is that supporters of other candidates use the poll to try to prop up their candidates.

So, for example, only 71% of republicans say they would vote for Perry in a Perry/Obama matchup. Now, who here actually believes that 29% of the republicans would either stay home or vote for Obama if Perry was the nominee?

Much more likely is that there are 29% of republicans who like their own choice of candidate so much that they are saying they won’t vote for Perry in order to drive down his “electability”.

Any candidate’s supporters could be doing this. However, the only candidates with enough supporters to get a sufficient number to play this game are Romney (the 2nd-place candidate) and Palin, who has a smaller, but extremely committed fan base many of whom are certainly telling pollsters they would vote for Obama over ANY candidate other than Palin.

But I don’t expect that to be the case when we actually have our nominee, even if it Mitt Romney, much less a guy Palin called a “true conservcative” who has long-supported the tea party like Rick Perry.


100 posted on 09/16/2011 12:45:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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