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Major Plane Crash at Reno Air Races Many dead [NTSB Update: 11 Dead; Over 50 Injured]]
16 Sep 2011 | vanity

Posted on 09/16/2011 5:15:07 PM PDT by PilotDave

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To: txhurl
Rumor is all over the scene but I could not get an official confirmation.
151 posted on 09/16/2011 8:17:55 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

NOOOOOO...... Please Lord no.

Not that any other life was less precious, in Jesus’ name I pray, Amen.


152 posted on 09/16/2011 8:19:42 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: TSgt; Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator; Lead Moderator
I’m sure you are doing a fine job! The only wacko moderators are those in the Religion Forum because one would have to be certifiably insane to take on that responsibility. ;-) FRegards, TSgt"

LOL and thanks TSgt. Religion Moderator does a fantastic job.

153 posted on 09/16/2011 8:30:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank you.


154 posted on 09/16/2011 8:30:42 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: TSgt

LOL


155 posted on 09/16/2011 8:31:00 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: mad_as_he$$

What rumor?

Anyway, I think that Jimmy was in his mid to early 70s. I don’t think he was 80 as is being reported.


156 posted on 09/16/2011 8:32:33 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Provide for the common defense.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

It has been revised at many sites now that he was 74.

Rumor that famous politician was one of those killed. I cannot say any more due to relationships, if it is true tomorrow will be a sad day in our world.


157 posted on 09/16/2011 8:35:01 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Admin Moderator

BTTT


158 posted on 09/16/2011 8:35:18 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: mad_as_he$$; txhurl

WTH ??


159 posted on 09/16/2011 8:35:22 PM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: tomkat

One of our best, ever.


160 posted on 09/16/2011 8:37:06 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: txhurl

“I heard a name on other sites that has me worried.”

I also heard a name from indirectly from friends that are there that also has me worried. Very high profile.


161 posted on 09/16/2011 8:39:57 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: al baby

Hey, that Pitts looks familiar.


162 posted on 09/16/2011 8:44:53 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Okieshooter

So are you going to share with us or just keep hinting at it


163 posted on 09/16/2011 8:45:47 PM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Okieshooter

Understandably, there’s a lot of national security to think about here...I’m upset.


164 posted on 09/16/2011 8:48:16 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: txhurl; All
Where is Sarah ??

(not to make light of anyone else, surely that's understood ?!)

165 posted on 09/16/2011 8:48:24 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

Sarah’s fine.


166 posted on 09/16/2011 8:50:23 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: txhurl
ok thanks

well, ya know what i mean   :-|

167 posted on 09/16/2011 8:51:35 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Mom MD
Sorry, but I don't want to become part of a rumor mill and I cant confirm if it is true.
168 posted on 09/16/2011 8:52:48 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Moose4

Thanks for that warning. )


169 posted on 09/16/2011 8:53:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: PilotDave

No harm, no foul. It got the ball rolling. Nature of the beast in the end. I go off of time stamp myself. I was more than happy to post a news link as backup on both yours and another thread.


170 posted on 09/16/2011 9:20:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: txhurl

Harry Reid?


171 posted on 09/16/2011 9:21:51 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: al baby

Reid just made a statement so it is not him.


172 posted on 09/16/2011 9:22:56 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: al baby

No, Reid posted his condolences.

I expect those not there will find out details in the morning, though race organizers said all further information on fatalities will come from NTSB (likely via a news conference following initial investigation).


173 posted on 09/16/2011 9:25:25 PM PDT by CedarDave (Hurricane Irene -- cleanup will give the economy the stimulus Obama wants (US taxpayers pay))
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To: CedarDave

Or did he


174 posted on 09/16/2011 9:26:16 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: al baby
Harry Reid?

I don't think too many people here would be upset if it were him.

175 posted on 09/16/2011 9:27:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: CedarDave

Reid posted his condolences?

Once again, RAT is as RAT does with no regard for anything.


176 posted on 09/16/2011 9:32:07 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: dfwgator

Not that way — maybe a long overdue retirement.


177 posted on 09/16/2011 9:33:24 PM PDT by CedarDave (Hurricane Irene -- cleanup will give the economy the stimulus Obama wants (US taxpayers pay))
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To: txhurl
Reid posted his condolences?

Actually, the news read a statement from him:

"I am deeply saddened at the news of this devastating accident. My thoughts are with the families of those who have lost their lives and with those who were wounded in this horrific tragedy. I am so grateful to our first responders for their swift action and will continue to monitor this situation as it develops."

178 posted on 09/16/2011 9:37:11 PM PDT by CedarDave (Hurricane Irene -- cleanup will give the economy the stimulus Obama wants (US taxpayers pay))
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To: Okieshooter; txhurl

Your repeated comments about your secret VIP are childish. Post the name of the unconfirmed person who may have been in attendance at the time of the crash.


179 posted on 09/16/2011 9:38:29 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Drink good coffee. You can sleep when you are dead.)
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To: NautiNurse

Whatever you think, but there are several that know the name on here that have the same feeling as I to keep the name secret until it is confirmed.


180 posted on 09/16/2011 9:44:24 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Okieshooter

She is fine. Sad but fine.


181 posted on 09/16/2011 9:54:12 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: NautiNurse

You’re not going to like it.


182 posted on 09/16/2011 9:55:05 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: tomkat

DD is fine : )


183 posted on 09/16/2011 10:03:24 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: NautiNurse
Post the name of the unconfirmed person who may have been in attendance at the time of the crash.

From what I have heard it is very ironic...and sad. (of course it is very sad for all killed and injured)
184 posted on 09/16/2011 10:08:05 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: PilotDave

Our nation has just seen its last air race. This sport will be shut down permanently and the lawsuits will drain the funds. MANY FAA regs were violated at this event (flying over crowds, flying directly at crowds, minimum altitudes for airshow passes, etc.). Bad, very bad.


185 posted on 09/16/2011 10:17:31 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: mad_as_he$$; Mom MD; Okieshooter
Rumor is all over the scene but I could not get an official confirmation.

I'm about 99.9% sure those rumors started as a joke due to the pilot's age. We would have other sources by now if it was true.

186 posted on 09/16/2011 10:18:27 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: DJlaysitup

Really?


187 posted on 09/16/2011 10:23:05 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: DJlaysitup

Ironic? Please, do tell.


188 posted on 09/16/2011 10:25:34 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“MANY FAA regs were violated at this event (flying over crowds, flying directly at crowds, minimum altitudes for airshow passes, etc.). Bad, very bad.”

There were no FAA regs broken at this show regarding this event. As a airshow waiver holder myself I can promise you that. There are a ton of regs for any airshow. The FAA was in attendance and performed the pilot briefings prior to the show. This was just real bad luck on the timing of the failure.. If you can’t fly toward the crowd, how can you ever get back to the crowd?


189 posted on 09/16/2011 10:26:06 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Shyla

It seems to be a secret.


190 posted on 09/16/2011 10:30:43 PM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: Royal Wulff

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybgd0EfxWCI


191 posted on 09/16/2011 10:32:04 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: xjcsa

I hope you are right, but the my source, although not confimed leads me to believe it is not a joke. I know that many on here are frustrated that we will not reveal the name. We are also very frustrated that we have been unable to confirm. If it turns out to be true am am sure those that wanted to know will understand why we wanted to be sure.

I am hoping it is not true.


192 posted on 09/16/2011 10:37:09 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Okieshooter
I hope you are right, but the my source, although not confimed leads me to believe it is not a joke.

The only place I saw it was in the comments section on the first YouTube video (since pulled). Given that the average YouTube comment poster has an IQ of about 3, I didn't trust it, and someone else suggested that it was just a joke because the pilot was old (i.e. the "VIP" was the pilot). Ha ha.

Agreed that we shouldn't mention the name - too much of a flap over what is probably nothing, in my view, and if it's actually true this isn't the way to break the news.

But again, I'm convinced it's not true.

193 posted on 09/16/2011 10:41:30 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Okieshooter

OK, I understand your desire to not want to spread rumors that may not be true. I do have two quick questions though...

Is the person in question a Democrat or Republican?

Is the person in question a current or former officeholder?


194 posted on 09/16/2011 10:43:43 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Candor7

Ping to vid feed


195 posted on 09/16/2011 10:47:44 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: xjcsa

You’re convinced it’s not true? Thank God.

I was really unnerved there for a while.


196 posted on 09/16/2011 10:50:38 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: PilotDave
Two images from yahoo site just before impact. Interesting in the first picture taken as he was inverted and rolling it appears that the left stabilizer trim tab is missing. In the final picture vertical before impact the rear tail wheel is out and with little exhaust he pulled the power back.

He was conscious after the turn because he called out a mayday knowing he had trouble. The Mustang pulled into the vertical and barrel rolled toward the stands. So he pulled back power but the engine was operating. A high speed stall or loss of elevator command could explain loss of pitch control. The pictures show that the ailerons were set for a left roll.

197 posted on 09/16/2011 10:57:51 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: txhurl

I wonder how many are like me and have their curiosities peaked to the max and are lurking hoping someone tells. I also wonder how many know and refuse to tell. It’s like the unstoppable force against the unmovable object. Something has to give.


198 posted on 09/16/2011 10:59:10 PM PDT by lwoodham (There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: lwoodham; hattend; Okieshooter; PilotDave; Jet Jaguar

One of FR’s best sources:


To: nuconvert
I was at the races today and sit in the box seats about 40 -50 yards from where the plane went in. We dodged shrapnel and weren’t hit. A guy two boxes down was being given CPR. My take on the accident is this: Galloping Ghost was rounding pylon eight and appeared to get hit by wake turbulence which caused him to roll up off the course and upside down.

He crossed the deadline, heard the engine surge twice and he was on a downward trajectory. At first I thought he was going in behind the grandstands but he rolled it back to the airfield. For a moment I was looking right down his spinner.

We thought he was going to land on us but we got lucky. There was no explosion. We dodged some flying shrapnel and stuff that was rolling down the aisle

If there was mechanical problems it picked the worst time to happen.

I met Jimmy many times and I feel like I have lost a friend. It’s devastating

51 posted on Sat Sep 17 2011 00:13:09 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you’d be dead. - Cameron Connor)


199 posted on 09/16/2011 11:04:32 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: txhurl

*whew*


200 posted on 09/16/2011 11:13:32 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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