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Rick Perry's Solyndra: "Venture Socialism" - The Texas Way!
American Thinker ^ | Sept 22, 2011 | Brian T. Carter

Posted on 09/22/2011 10:20:57 AM PDT by RobaWho

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Perry looks worse by the hour. Romney has NEVER been conservative. Two progressive RINOs without a difference between them. Neither Romney or Perry are capable of solving the grave issues facing our exceptional nation. The debates tonight will simply expose the emptiness of these two candidates.
1 posted on 09/22/2011 10:20:59 AM PDT by RobaWho
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To: Liz; Diogenesis; South40; Clemenza; Impy; BobL

*ping*


2 posted on 09/22/2011 10:24:14 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: RobaWho

“The debates tonight will simply expose the emptiness of these two candidates.”

And here we are with no one who can beat Zero that has entered the race as of today.


3 posted on 09/22/2011 10:25:13 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: RobaWho

Did Convergen file bankruptcy?

Didn’t think so. Nice try at a hit piece though.


4 posted on 09/22/2011 10:25:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: RobaWho

Even though the idea that Perry and Romney are even remotely close in their policies and philosophies is absurd, I would still like to ask, who should a conservative support in the primary?


5 posted on 09/22/2011 10:25:31 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt

The half term governor who isn’t running, perhaps?


6 posted on 09/22/2011 10:26:24 AM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: RobaWho
Just the possibility of having to choose between Perry and Romney makes me puke.

Rick Perry is a cross between Joe Isuzu and Elmer Gantry. I don't trust him as far as I could throw Chris Christie.

7 posted on 09/22/2011 10:27:04 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: RobaWho
Perry looks worse by the hour. Romney has NEVER been conservative.

I just don't understand why folks will promote winning with a very questionable candidate vs. winning with a proven reformer. No one seemed to have a problem understanding what little bammy and the donks did with ObammyCare when THEY had the upper hand with majorities in both Houses and the Presidency.

The donks are so weak now unnamed generic "republican" candidates are besting little bammy. In such a winning environment why would one not want to win with a candidate that has a documented record of addressing the glaring problem... we need to clean house on BOTH sides of the isle which in many instances includes that very same gang of establishment GOP cronies.

Clean house on both side of the isle...

Let's see, who did that?

8 posted on 09/22/2011 10:28:31 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: RockinRight

At least she’s honest. That’s more than you can say for Perry.


9 posted on 09/22/2011 10:29:02 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: RobaWho
The debates tonight will simply expose the emptiness of these two candidates.

I agree and if Newt gets some questions, I think he may get a small boost. Contrary to what some are saying, this vetting is good. Now or later, but it is a given in politics.

10 posted on 09/22/2011 10:29:22 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: RockinRight

He is also exercising States Rights. Yes, how many companies that Texas helped filed for bankruptcy? Or....did they prosper? If done right, I have no problem with this and if the State gets payed back.


11 posted on 09/22/2011 10:29:41 AM PDT by RC2
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To: bwc2221

I prefer Perry over Obama.


12 posted on 09/22/2011 10:29:52 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TLI
"Clean house on both side of the isle...Let's see, who did that?"

A cleaning lady in the Bahamas?

13 posted on 09/22/2011 10:30:58 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: RockinRight
The half term governor who isn’t running, perhaps?

That is my suspicion, but I'd like to hear it from the OP for myself.

14 posted on 09/22/2011 10:31:13 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: RobaWho

Big deal. Tell me which state doesn’t have these development funds. By your logic, no former or current Governor in the US would qualify as a candidate for President because of perceived corruption. Baloney.


15 posted on 09/22/2011 10:31:34 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I prefer Perry over Obama.

RINO!!!!!

;-)

16 posted on 09/22/2011 10:32:35 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: RockinRight
Even if she never runs for the Presidency, Palin has been an invaluable boon to the conservative intellectual arguments against “death panels” and “crony capitalism” - with the power to shape the debate via a cleverly constructed and easy to understand idiom.
17 posted on 09/22/2011 10:33:00 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: comebacknewt

Herman Cain. I don’t think 0 can beat any of the R’s, not even Ron Paul. I think we’re making a mistake by rallying around Hecanwin.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 10:33:54 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: TLI
I just don't understand why folks will promote winning with a very questionable candidate vs. winning with a proven reformer.

I'm with you 100%.


19 posted on 09/22/2011 10:34:25 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: RockinRight

Bankruptcy or Success has NOTHING to do with this issue. It’s about OUR Government picking winners & losers based on campaign contributions. The ultimate outcome of a business after they have been funded with tax payer dollars has ZERO to do with this gross abuse of BIG Government.

Nice try. Really nice try at evasion and ignorance.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 10:35:03 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: TLI

Who do you like?


21 posted on 09/22/2011 10:35:33 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: All
There is not a dimes worth of difference between the two RINOs and Obama...here we go again, just like in 2008...nothing but one world government politicians to choose from.

How's that just-winism workin’ out for ya? I think they (NWO) beat you at the game.

22 posted on 09/22/2011 10:35:47 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: RobaWho

Wow, Perry has baggage, what a shock. /s I get that he is not perfect and some of this is troubling but come on, to compare this guy to Romney is just off. I mean, “RomneyCare” I just can’t get that out of my mind and just can’t let Romney off the hook for it PERIOD!!! In my mind RomneyCare moves Mitt into the “need not apply” category.


23 posted on 09/22/2011 10:35:59 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: bwc2221

God Bless you, BWC2221!! Couldn’t have said it better!


24 posted on 09/22/2011 10:36:15 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Hear, Hear! I'll gladly take Santorum!
25 posted on 09/22/2011 10:38:00 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: RockinRight

I am a Texan. I don’t like the sound of this hit piece. I am for Perry and I have to admit this disturbs me. I believe he is more conservative than Romney, saner than Bachman and other than Cain, whom I just love, the rest are just flotsam and jetsom.

We are never going to find a flawless candidate. Even with this ‘revelation’ I still support Perry. And if he takes Cain for VP...it would be ideal.

As you said, ‘did Convergen file bankruptcy?’ And...is it truly ‘venture socialism’?


26 posted on 09/22/2011 10:38:16 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: demshateGod

“Herman Cain. I don’t think 0 can beat any of the R’s, not even Ron Paul. I think we’re making a mistake by rallying around Hecanwin.”

Cain would be slaughtered.


27 posted on 09/22/2011 10:39:15 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Dudoight

Right now I’m so mad at Texas that I’m going to root for OU for the first time in my adult life. If Perry want’s my vote, you guys better do something about that Longhorn Network.


28 posted on 09/22/2011 10:41:17 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: RobaWho; shield

1. All accusations, no real proof, AND even the article says:

“While these insider practices are shady and unfair to others who were denied similar opportunities, none of this is illegal”

Trying to make Perry look guilty, because Obama’s shady practices — if Obama is guilty, so is Perry is beyond ridiculous, there is NO “moral equivalence” between Obama and Perry, which is what you are trying tocreate.

2. Are you working on starting a “Conservatives for Obama” group?

Let’s knock Perry out of the primary, make sure the conservative vote splits, let Romney be the GOP nominee, so Obama could get reelected. THIS is what “conservatives” are going to accomplish, if you keep up this Perry bashing. Is THAT what you really want?

Headline in 2012 after Obama gets reelected: “Obama’s reelections wouldn’t have been possible without Conservatives knocking out Perry in the primary.”


29 posted on 09/22/2011 10:42:13 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: FlipWilson

I agree! RomneyCare makes me puke. PerryCare mandates make me puke. Slick politicians that place party allegiance before the US Constitution and common sense make me puke. We need a full, complete, wholesale garage sale of all Gov’t excess, agencies, crooks, tax codes, etc. Only one person has the stones, courage and exceptional track record of successfully taking on the good ‘ol boy network and kicking their asses. Gov. Sarah Palin.


30 posted on 09/22/2011 10:42:58 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: jessduntno

If we had a fair primary system that didn’t leave our choices in the hands of the MSM........... Oh never mind. They don’t call us the Stupid Party for nothing.


31 posted on 09/22/2011 10:43:54 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: RobaWho

Who the hell is Bryan T. Carter? What other articles has he written, what is his background, why is American Thinker posting an article without giving the readers any background on the author?


32 posted on 09/22/2011 10:44:38 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: jacknhoo

Good. That’s two of us. If only we could get a couple million more to join us we would be in good shape.


33 posted on 09/22/2011 10:44:55 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
“I prefer Perry over Obama.”

Speaking of bad choices, I prefer Hitler over Mao simply because he murdered fewer people.

We need some who is going to slam on the brakes not hit the wall at 90 mph rather than 130 mph.

34 posted on 09/22/2011 10:45:33 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: RobaWho

I wish she’d run for Big 12 commissioner and take on U of Tx.


35 posted on 09/22/2011 10:46:00 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: RobaWho

The problem here for Perry, is that this is “business as usual” in Texas, so it was never a major campaign issue when he ran there, because the RATs would be the first ones to do this as well, and the people basically accepted this as normal. How this method of operating contrasts now with the national political climate (i.e. Palin and “Crony Capitalism”), is a political dynamic that has not even begun to play out (since she’s not even a candidate yet).

None of the current candidates can make this a successful campaign issue, because none of them has fought or taken-on this way of doing business in their political (or non-political) career.

Forget about Obama raising this as an issue. He’s the one who could write the text book on it.

If Palin does get in, then it could be for an interesting campaign, since it would be one of her main campaign points, and she’s got the track record and political scalps to prove it.


36 posted on 09/22/2011 10:46:14 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: bwc2221

And who might that be?


37 posted on 09/22/2011 10:46:33 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Clairity

Your fatal flaw is describing Perry as a “conservative”. He;s an amnesty shill, a BilderBerg Big Government Progressive. “Governor Hair” is upside in his popularity in his own state of Texas.

The ONLY electable conservative with executive experience and a track record that DESTROYS both Perry & Romney in every single category is Gov. Palin.

You will soon figure this out on your own.


38 posted on 09/22/2011 10:48:03 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: CajunConservative
You're right. Anyone who questions Perry is suspect, anyone who praises St. Rick is is to be accepted without question - the Perry fangirl credo.
39 posted on 09/22/2011 10:48:20 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

Bravo, Bravo, Bravo! I Salute You, my friend!


40 posted on 09/22/2011 10:50:12 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: demshateGod

“Oh never mind. They don’t call us the Stupid Party for nothing.”

No. No they don’t. The Grand Old Potty must be flushed.


41 posted on 09/22/2011 10:52:23 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: RobaWho

We sure have some dense FReepers. This is just garbage commentary. Perry is an excellent candidate.

You guys are like DUers on the left. You are so idealistic in your desires and you are probably not able to live up to half of what your preach and want in a candidate.


42 posted on 09/22/2011 10:52:55 AM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Lazlo in PA

Santorum couldn’t even win a senate seat in his own state, what makes anyone think he can win nationwide office????

Let’s get real, here!


43 posted on 09/22/2011 10:54:43 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: ilovesarah2012
Cain, Santorum, Palin, if she enters.

With Perry, little will change other than the appointment of pro-life judges.

Texas is supposedly the “nation's miracle state,” yet the Lone Star State is anticipating a $10 billion shortfall next year (half of what California is expecting). It doesn't appear that Perry is any more of a budget hawk than Bush43 or Arnold:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/01/14/10-states-with-the-largest-budget-shortfalls

44 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:30 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: LibFreeUSA

Your post should be memorized and accepted by all on this thread! Amen, my friend!

The only clarification I would make is, “when” she gets in. We ARE storming the beaches of Normandy in 2012. Timing of when the invasion is launched is the only question. No good General reveals her offensive campaign strategy in advance.

She is driving the main stream media and RINO lovers totally crazy. Love. It.


45 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:37 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: demshateGod
Who do you like?

Solid for Gov. Palin since I chugged a half bottle of Maalox, walked into the voting booth and pushed the button for McCain-Palin.

And no, I was not voting for McCain...

I finished the bottle of Maalox on the way home.

.

46 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:58 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: RobaWho

You turkeys. You could call Reagen a RINO for Amnesty and his desire to work with Tip ONeil.

We need smart FReepers to win in 2012, not this garbage commentary and posts.


47 posted on 09/22/2011 10:57:39 AM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: RobaWho; All
I use Google to try to find out who the author of this article is and what his previous articles are (i.e. who he is working for).

For "Brian T. Carter," there are no previous articles...on American Thinker or elsewhere.

48 posted on 09/22/2011 10:58:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Count of Monte Logan

“You guys are like DUers on the left.”

If by that, you mean I think that both establishment parties and their members are corrupt, then yes, I am just like that. We have that in common, me and your average DUmmy. I think that we are so hopelessly locked in a broken, corrupt system, that only a Tea Party will free us. That, of course, is where I differ from the DUmmy. He he believe in hope and change; I am looking for hard nosed, bare knuckle reform. And that means getting rid of the Corrupt Bastards that have taken us by the bawls and are killing my country. On BOTH sides of the aisle.

Slick Rick is one of THEM, not one of US.

If you can’t see that, you’re part of the problem. You’ll keep jumping up and down clapping your little hands screaming “goody, goody, we WON!”


49 posted on 09/22/2011 10:59:24 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

You sound like a lib with your “generalities” and no specifics. “Garbage” - “Idealistic” - we’re just “hypocrites” - I guess because we don’t agree with you, huh?


50 posted on 09/22/2011 11:00:34 AM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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