Skip to comments.Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal
Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants
Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.
"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."
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I read it twice. Slowly. What exactly did she say?
She’s proud of Jan Brewer for standing up for the constituents of her state? Well Perry did too.
When you have a near unanimous vote for the Texas Dream Act, signing it is just standing up for the constituents of the State of Texas.
Does Sarah Palin think the Texas Dream act should have been vetoed? I frankly can’t figure out what her position on illegal immigration is or how it differs from Perry.
Perry saying we have no heart...breaks my heart.
The GOP is dead, they just don't know it yet.
I think the Palin/Cain express just left the station.
You took the words out of my mou..er..brain!
Perry DOES have good points. But Illegal immigration, once dealt with, would have a cascade effect on many other economic and sociopolitical issues we have. RP just is a part of that problem. His own words/policies make it clear he will not be the man to lead us out of the desert.
There are better choices. Cain..Palin...even Newt for all his considerable baggage (and I’m stretching on that one) but it is what it it. Perry is in bed with the LaRaza and other race groups when it comes to illegals in America. He can’t duck it. He and his supporters can try but the Gen Pub ain’t likely to go along with it.
That whole focus group were complete IDIOTS !
I have a heart for law abiding American citizens who have to live under politicians who won’t enforce our border security laws. Who try to guilt us for wanting a country NOT full of illegal aliens. That’s just a liberal tactic right there.
NO offense but he’s just digging a bigger hole.
Shhhhh!!!!! be quiet or you’ll spill the beans to the Germans
This is the part of the debate where Perry lost my vote. I had been leaning Perry. A friend at work had already made up his mind and was all in for Perry. He just sent me an email after the debate. Perry lost him too. These damn politicians need to start taking illegal immigration seriously.
Governor of a border state filled with illegals and President of the USA are two very different things.
Other than that, Dunno, I am a Zonie, not a Texan. You want illegals here? Do you? Yes/No?
Simple. Vote Perry, get more.
Those people live here. We didn't invite them or bring them in. Neither did Perry. Neither did Bush or Anne Richards. They came on their own, over decades of time.
Their kids grew up here. They played sports with our kids. They attended the same schools. We didn't invite them or encourage them to come here. I'm a parent and my kids attend school with them.
So they reach high school age and want to attend college and better their lives. They're essentially Americans, this is the only place they know. You let them pay tuition just like any other resident of the state. Not out of state tuition. Because they live here and their parents pay state and local taxes, and property taxes. Why make them pay out of state tuition when they've been residents for 4-6-11 years? Why tell them they CAN'T attend college?
They comprise only 1% of college freshmen in Texas. The whole matter is overblown. Hardly any of them ever apply for college. The ones that can earn the grades, I say let them have a shot just like any other person who's grown up here.
I know I'll get blasted and insulted for this position. I still believe in it. Perry may go down in flames but I think he is right. He signed a bill with only 4 dissenting votes. So I'm not the only one who shares the position.
“If Perry is such a louse, why was he elected Governor of Texas?”
Probably for the same reasons Arnold was elected Governor of California.
And for those who think otherwise, they are in great need of an education; not to mention ice water thrown over their collective heads.
A shovel ready job opening? Grave diggers for the GOP;sadly.
He knew he needed the Hispanic vote for election so he was never going to veto this with the overwhelming vote of the legislature. He’s boxed in a corner on this issue.
I thought that maybe you learned your lesson after helping Jorge Bush get re-elected to his second term. You sounded like you learned but now I'm not so sure. You fell for the 'Anybody But Obama' syndrome and look what has happened to you now. Perry shot himself in both feet and now doesn't have a leg to stand on. Kind of embarrassing isn't it!? Maybe you'll start beating the bushes for Sarah now.
Lets say you were dragged here by your parents when you were 5 and you grew up in Texas and believed you were a Texan and you worked hard and graduated from Texas high school and got good enough grades to get into a Texas State University, what should Texas do to you? Send you back to Mexico, a country you've never been to? Deport you? (BTW only the Federal Government can deport you)?
What should Texas do to you?
If you think we should treat these children like the criminals they aren't, then I'd have to say yes you do not have a heart.
Perry still has me. He said nothing different tonight then he’s been saying. It was voted on at the state level, it passed.
I am having a really hard time getting past this. I like a lot of what Perry says but he is wrong about a fence. We can certainly build a fence. We put men on the Moon for crikes sakes. This instate tuition for illegals is just not resonating. I do not want to fight that amnesty fight again. I think this issue is really hurting Perry. Mitt looked good tonight and I swore in 2008 I would never vote for Mitt. Newt and Herman were not too shabby either.
Ditto. Where are the Perry supporters? I’ve been perusing these threads waiting for them to come to his defense. They are mia so far. Perhaps they are in a meeting trying to come up with something, anything, to spin his failure. Or maybe they’re busy picking the rose-colored glass slivers out of their eyes.
Romney is ‘too’ smooth (but he had the last election to practice)
Perry is NO conservative-especially on ‘illegals’
Bachmann is a fine lady BUT not strong enough to be Pres
Newt and Cain are both fine (are they electable?)
However, I WILL vote for whoever gets the nomination for if I don’t the Obamanation may get back in-—please do not sit this one out under any circumstances
But then that is what us native Texans are known for. :-)
Well Luntz did a focus group in Iowa awhile ago and asked about Palin 80% of them wanted Palin to run. It was funny because Luntz almost jumped out of skin he was so shocked.
A DAR pillar of the community from just across the state border in Arkansas who wants to go the same University, is SOL.
Yeah, that makes sense.
If you're Jorge Arbusto maybe.
Are we a nation of laws or men’s hearts?
Simple question with a simple answer.
My heart is for the citizens of America and their families now unemployed and suffering. When we fix US, we can deal with them. Or better, let Mexico deal with their own.
Ok, I have no heart. IMHO, it's damned heartless to force American taxpayers to pay for their K-12 education. It is irrational to educate people who can not legally work here. Unless, of course, your goal is to push for their legalization. Then you'll use the, "We've already paid to educate them. It would be a waste of money not to make them legal so we can use their education."
You are right on this. I’m with you.
Good base line. . .works for me.
Good base line. . .works for me.
It’s time to have a heart and be concerned about the hard pressed citizens of the USA subsidizing illegals, and also competing with them for scarce jobs, and thanks to Gov Perry subsidizing their college education too.
Newt kind of concerned me too when he pulled the classic politico deflect and dodge when he was asked about whether employers should use “e-verify”? He never really answered the question except to say he’d ask employers what they would suggest and then said something like start over and
let Visa or Amex do it. We need to use what is available now and not contract with one of Newts campaign contributors.
When he was a Speaker of the House and did a “contract with America” and he failed to even address illegal immigration. Like all of them they say one thing but then deflect and delay so that the US Chamber of Commerce stays happy while we pay. Business gets used to having them as cheap labor and as customers. BofA was big into giving them mortgage loans in prior years.
Perry goes even further than that, Marlowe. He says that those students must also have ALREADY applied for US citizenship.
So, we have a kid with no country, raised here, graduated here, a done well in school here, AND trying their hardest to get the citizenship thing worked out.
And we’re going to tell them to take a hike. That is heartless.
Yes, he is anti-Palin,so didn't handle that response well at all;I remember that.
Well on the national level, Gov. Palin stated she was against the Dream Act.
Nomination for post of the year. Bears repeating about every 48 hours.
I’ll second that nomination!
Yes that is my opinion of all his focus groups. Luntz is close pals with everybody at NBC/MSNBC
Agreed. Looks nervous,gets an odd look on his face with questions he’s not prepared for, and he licks his lips. Not up to the Job.
Are we a nation of laws or mens hearts?
Simple question with a simple answer.
These children did not break any laws.
And Texas has passed a law giving these children the same rights as any other Texas child who has worked hard and graduated from a Texas High School. That is the law of Texas.
You got a problem with that?
Don't mess with Texas.
Yes I remember. Luntz was on ABC This Week within the last 8 weeks sometime. He said there was no room for Gov Palin in the race because of Bachmann
To give the children of these law breaking illegal alien parents a leg up over the children of law abiding Americans who played by the rules and paid their fair share of taxes all along and then give them the middle finger in favor of the children of illegal alien parents is not what this nation should be about or doing.
If that makes me heartless then so be it. I favor law abiding American parents getting what is fair and just and telling the illegal alien parents to get out and take their children back home with them and let them learn the hard lessons of doing things the legal and proper way and this is what happens when the laws of a nation are flagrantly violated.
These children should not receive any tax payer monies while telling American families, sorry but we don't care about you and your kids never mind that you've worked hard all your life and saved money to help educate your kids and then have a arrogant politician tell you that you don't matter any more and that furthermore you should now keep paying even more taxes to subsidize and educate some illegal aliens kids. Pure BS.
Perry STFU you are done for me
There are other states, 13 that had a similar program but that isn't the issue as Perry is the Gov of one that has this program.
I was for Perry... before tonight.
He is a terrible debater.
He has no passion, he stutters and stammers, and he let’s too many challenges go unanswered.
His “You don’t have a heart” remark on illegals was pathetic.
And he doesn’t take it to Obama enough... I don’t remember him even mentioning Obama’s name tonight.
Yup. Big one. Your illegals are costing American taxpayers jobs and money.
Illegal immigration is ILLEGAL. What part of that do you not get? Logic man! If they are illegal to begin with, they should not be here. So your law should have no one here to take advantage of it to begin with!
Perry and Texas took a bold and decisive stand on the issue - to educate EVERYONE at state tuition rates if they can pass the SAT or ACT. We already had to educate them from K-12 and had no choice in the matter.
People including hundreds here on FR need to think more practically and less with a beer mug and armchair reaction. This is real life for people in Texas. Both white and hispanic. Real life for real people. The failure of the federal government should not be placed on the backs of Texans who want all residents to succeed with an education. Including a college education if they can cut the mustard.