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Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal
weeklystandard ^ | Thursday September 22, 2011 | JOHN MCCORMACK

Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants

Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.

"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amnesty; byebyeperry; debates; dreamact; illegals; immigration; openborderperry; palin; perry; perry4dreamact; perry4illegals; perry4openborders; perryisademocrat; rickperry; rino; rinoperry; sarahpalin; texas
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To: Norm Lenhart

Don’t even get me started on illegals who fly Mexican flags here in the US.

If it weren’t vandalism I would shoot my mother’s neighbor’s Mexican flag full of holes every time they fly it.


281 posted on 09/22/2011 10:49:24 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Norm Lenhart

What the heck would a career politician know about having a heart?


282 posted on 09/22/2011 10:50:04 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: mikhailovich

” This is real life for people in Texas. Both white and hispanic. Real life for real people”

It’s been “real life” in California for decades. It’s how we lost our State. Feel free to wreck Texas next if you insist.

Just don’t expect the rest of us to vote for the fools you elect who can’t get a handle on what “illegal alien” means.


283 posted on 09/22/2011 10:50:54 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Norm Lenhart

LOLOL. Not really, no. ;)


284 posted on 09/22/2011 10:50:54 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Carling

Carling, I posted this on another thread, but I actually think it fits better right here. Besides, I want EVERYONE to see how I stand.

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From: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2782506/posts

(Another poster on that thread)

This is actually why Obama fears Perry so much. Obama is counting on the hispanic vote to carry him to victory. Along comes Perry and suddenly Obama is facing losing a large chunk of that base.

(My response)

I believe that is what Rush Limbaugh was getting at yesterday.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_092111/content/01125112.guest.html

Upon going to that link (above) you see Rush advising his listeners that we will need to get the Texas electoral vote to win this election, and we will need to get the Hispanic vote from Obama to win this election against Obama.

Rush’s segment on this yesterday was every informative, should one have ears to listen.

However, not considering whether or not we need to take the Hispanic vote from Obama to win in the general election, I don’t think Perry is doing a good job in these debates explaining the entire immigration situation here.

He is particularly doing a bad job explaining himself on the Texas DREAM Act.

Here are a few things I wish he would at least address:

1. Perry needs to let people know that states have no right to deport. By not making people aware that a state can not, by any legal law in The U.S., deport immigrants, others may think, and they do, that he is soft. People mistakenly think Perry COULD send them back. He CAN’T, but yet too many people think that he CAN and that he just DOESN’T.

Rick Perry has to get that misguided notion straightened up if anyone is even to ever come close to understanding what he is doing or why. Like it or not, neither Perry nor the State of Texas can deport illegal immigrants. That is only, by law, a federal action.

2. Rick Perry needs to tell people from OTHER STATES that if they want in-state tuition, they can get it from their own stinkin’ states! I get tired of hearing person after person complain that THEIR child from Kentucky, or Michigan, or Maine can’t go to a Texas college with an in-state tuition rate for their child but yet... they complain that while their child can’t, some illegal living in Texas CAN.

You know, it’s ONE argument to say you don’t want illegal’s children getting to stay here or getting breaks. It is something totally different when they complain about not getting in-state tuition for their children for college in a state they don’t even live in. They CAN get in-state tuition.. in the state where they live!

Even if Perry can’t step back on his need to manage this problem we have in Texas, when he hears this complain (and I believe it was mentioned in this debate), Perry needs to look them in the eye and say “If you want in-state tuition for your child, then by golly find a college in YOUR state. This is for people who are living in Texas, and YOU don’t LIVE in Texas.

Sorry for that rant. Like I said, it is one thing to talk about something that would benefit a child of an illegal immigrant. It is another thing to complain about some out-of-state teenager not getting in-state tuition in Texas when they have their OWN states they can already get in-state tuition in.

3. Regarding this same issue, I have heard a few now ignorantly claim that these children of illegal immigrants living in Texas go to college FOR FREE! That is ludicrous!

Michele Bachmann quoted the DREAM Act discount as a savings of $22,000 I believe. The UT Austin website indicates a slightly lower tuition per semester rate, but when you include fees, she was probably very close.

So since she used The University of Texas Austin as her example, let’s just keep it at that here.

So a child of an illegal immigrant living in Texas for at least three years (maybe a lifetime for many) who has graduated from high school, submitted their application for American citizenship and going through that citizenship process, and having been accepted to The University of Texas Austin (one of the HARDEST universities in the country to get accepted to), gets an in-state tution rate.

Besides the fact that the student had to be GOOD enough to get into college and competitive enough to get into a major university, they are STILL going to have to pay the regular in-state tuition. These stellar students are NOT going to school for FREE.

4. I also wish Perry would point out that these students who are entering Texas colleges are in the process of working on and receiving their American citizenship. They are taking actions available through our federal government to be citizens, and the government would have track of them at that point and KNOW if they were following through their citizenship process as well (a cost of approximately $30,000.00 per person), that cost IN ADDITION TO the in-state tuition that student is paying out of his or her own (or family’s) pocket.

Of all the above points, I would think that would be the one that Perry could be the most proud of getting out to people.

I live in Texas, and I understand this is not a matter of wanting to reward illegal immigrants but more a situation we have to manage so that we are not left with these folk in the gutters killing each other (and us), selling drugs, making a living through prostitution rings, etc. Texas does not want all that junk in our state! So... we MANAGE the situation we are left with because of a lax federal government that has not protected us as it should have done and has not deported the illegal immigrants that should have been deported.

I also understand what Texas politicians feel they must do to manage the situation does not come off well to many others.

I just wish Rick Perry would clear up some of the absolute nonsense that is being thrown about with this issue and what is or is not being done here - what can, and can not be done here - and what has, and has not been done here in Texas.

This is not going to be his best issue with conservatives, and some people are going to be upset with The DREAM Act regardless, but my golly, when these incorrect fallacies are mentioned or people just don’t have the right information, the least he could do for himself is to defend what he can and correct all he should.

But just for me... HEY PEOPLE, IT’S NOT FREE.


285 posted on 09/22/2011 10:52:05 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving up so many whoppers.)
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To: Nancee

Sorry, didn’t see it (don’t have TV). Just know what I saw here on FR.


286 posted on 09/22/2011 10:53:21 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: P-Marlowe

Re: Your post 197. Works for me


287 posted on 09/22/2011 10:53:52 PM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: reaganaut

Same here. We get a lot of that, along with stickers and flag license plates. It’s all Reconquista/LaRaza crap. If I emigrated to Iceland, why would I keep flying an American flag? Only if I really didn’t consider myself an Icelander...
Same poop, different pooper.

They are just following ‘The Race’ and using incrementalism to retake what they claim is theirs...and using our bleeding heart libs to help them do it - whether that bleeding hart has a D or R to proclaim their affiliation.


288 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: CAluvdubya

VERY WELL SAID!!! And I’m an ex-Californian for the reasons you listed.


289 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Bigtigermike

Perry tried to do the only thing he could do...try to defend his indefensible record.

He was roundly booed and made a complete fool of himself.


290 posted on 09/22/2011 10:55:56 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: reaganaut

Anyone who owns a home, rents a home or apartment, directly or indirectly pay property (school) tax, whether or not they have the receipt.

If they buy anything, naturally they pay Sales Tax.

Texas has no other tax, no income tax.


291 posted on 09/22/2011 10:57:42 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: casinva

There’s a basic law of nature.

You reward something you get more of it.

You punish something you get less of it.

Do you want more or less illegal immigration?


292 posted on 09/22/2011 10:57:48 PM PDT by DB
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To: Clyde5445
Okay. From what I read, Palin still has a nuanced stance and supports a path to citizenship. In fact, she said it again:

"So they need to follow that path of legal citizenship, obviously."

A path to legal citizenship or a path to citizenship are the same thing. Means, amnesty. Maybe not blanket amnesty, but amnesty nonetheless. Palin won't deport them. She wants to work within the system and get this issue resolved. I agree with her. And we all agree, the feds need to secure the border first!

293 posted on 09/22/2011 10:58:14 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Williams
Perry's comments tonight about "no heart" might have been the final nail in his coffin.

I still like him and agree with him on 98% of the issues, but I think his enemies likely have won. He has shown almost zero ability to defend himself from their attacks and that comment hurts him badly.

I am really down because I now see Romney with a clear path to the nomination. The front running conservative with the best chance to stop him has been marginalized.

I honestly don't know where conservatives go to stop the Romney nomination or to prevent the second term of Barack Obama.

Both very, very depressing thoughts.

294 posted on 09/22/2011 10:58:37 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Grey Eagle
I think he explained plenty. He's now stooping to calling those of us who agree with him "heartless".

He thoroughly outed himself as yet another of the 'elite' who don't understand that we simply don't have the money for this crap, or much of anything else anymore. It also shows his extreme lack of respect for those of us who pay the bills in this country and live lawful lives.

295 posted on 09/22/2011 10:58:47 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: dagogo redux

So true...but Americans buy into the guilt trip regularly. So he used it just like Clinton and Obama...and Al and Jessie...and Nancy and Harry...PFLAG anf GSLEN...Sierra Club and PETA... I’d like to see a Perry supporter explain how it’s OK when Rick does it but bad when the dem/libs do.

Point to ponder for ‘ya’ll’ ;)


296 posted on 09/22/2011 10:59:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Bigtigermike

well, Perry is just another over emotional RINO after all.


297 posted on 09/22/2011 11:01:18 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: casinva
You should consult for Perry, FRiend.

He seems incapable of explaining this. Then again, with the Romney ankle biters attacking him during the debate, it's probably difficult to condense a complex executive decision into a 20 second soundbite. It's clear who the GOP/FoxNews people want to win, and I include Palin in that, since she hasn't gone after Romney at all.

298 posted on 09/22/2011 11:01:20 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Reagan Man

We currently have a path to legal citizenship.


299 posted on 09/22/2011 11:01:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Maybe if Palin was Governor of Texas for 11 years, like Rick Perry has been, she just might understand the politics of life in the Lone Star State.

We’ll never know.


300 posted on 09/22/2011 11:02:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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