Skip to comments.Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal
Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants
Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.
"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."
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Care to weigh in and defend Perry on this one?
FR is a lost cause remember? Why are you still here?
What’s wrong with you? You don’t want another “decider”? /s/on
“Upon going to that link (above) you see Rush advising his listeners that we will need to get the Texas electoral vote to win this election, and we will need to get the Hispanic vote from Obama to win this election against Obama.”
For ten years Rush wouldn’t lift a finger to help those of us who were battling illegal immigration. During the fight to pass Prop 187 in California he wouldn’t take calls on illegal immigration. He wouldn’t take calls on it for years afterward either.
It was only when the grassroots firestorm stopped Dubya’s amnesty dead in its tracks that Rush got around to yelling “Wait! Wait! I’m your leader!” as he ran after the bandwagon and tried to clamber aboard.
So pardon me if I find Rush’s suggestions about the necessity of sucking up to the latino vote to be a pile of dog crap. He’s just going back to what he does best, playing waterboy for the no borders wing of the GOP.
We keep agreeing and one of us will have to buy the beer ;)
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Wine for me tonight, but I’ll take you up on beer. Running joke is I’m making up for all the years I spent as a Mormon. ;)
And I agree with your post. Our last neighborhood was where my husband’s grandmother lived (we were living there to keep it from being burned down by the gangs or used as a drug house). He was shot at by the ‘innocent’ little kids for being white. The cops wouldn’t answer calls of shots fired unless we saw a body, the cops defended the gang members across the street when they broke in and robbed us, and we had to wear bullet proof vest (not kidding) to work in our garden.
Innocent my ***.
“A kid going to public school typically costs more than $5,000 per year. Illegals dont even begin to pay enough taxes to cover their children going to public school”
Unless you pay 3 times the property tax as we do in Texas, even you never completely cover the cost to educate your own kid. A lot of shool taxes comes form homeowners who have no children or whose children have grown up, making them pay shool tax with no kid in the school system.
Perry has a self inflicted wound. It takes very little to parse what he said before with what would be deemed reasonably fair in another world on another day. But I sense we have only seen the tip of an enormous iceberg when it comes to Perry’s enthusiasm for the goals of La Raza. I sense that if he was not already parsing the heck out of his true beliefs we would have another Gov Richardson on our hands.
No he won’t ever build a fence.
No he won’t punish employers,
No he won’t deport those convicted of a non fence jumping crime.
Yes he will give licenses, instate tuition and benefits.
When he comes to Ohio, he will see the effect of that.
Pray for an alternative to Romney!
And perhaps the lone star state wouldn’t be the illegal gateway/superhighway of choice that Perry’s policies made it. But we will never know that either.
Again. A path to legal citizenship or a path to citizenship are one in the same thing. When applied to illegals it means, amnesty.
“...Palin supporters being cultists <<
There is a difference between being a Plain supporter and a Palin cultist.
I am the former, I despise the latter.
If no one can say one negative thing about Palin without you flipping your wig, you are a cultist.
Thanks! we can’t afford to move since the housing market has crashed.
That looks like something I need to read. I'm working on Mark Steyn's "After America" right now, but it is slow going because it is absolutely infuriating. Steyn is the greatest writer alive today in my opinion.
Actually, I have two teenage kids and I pay about double in property taxes the costs of my two kids going to school each year.
We should probably take this up in Mail if you want to continue it.
Well thanks Carling, but I know what a time my husband has trying to put up with me. I don’t think Rick Perry needs that right now too! LOL
So I’ve decided that Rick Perry doesn’t appear to have debate skills as his top talent, but I still know who he is, and he’s still my candidate of choice. Let’s hope he gets a few good speeches in where people can see him in that venue before he does another debate or so! LOL
Thanks for the nice note!
You don’t need wine, you need Yukon Jack!! and a Ma Duce... Good lord. That’s one hell of a testimony to the true face of illegal immigration.
But I’m sure you just made that up because you are a Perry hater like me that just wants Romney elected...Or I’m sure one of his (diminishing number of) supporters will be here shortly to tell you how you imagined the whole thing. Either way as long as they can excuse the actual result of policies he supports.
So you are saying the path to legal citizenship that has been in place since before Ellis Island is Amnesty...got it.
Same here. We get a lot of that, along with stickers and flag license plates. Its all Reconquista/LaRaza crap. If I emigrated to Iceland, why would I keep flying an American flag? Only if I really didnt consider myself an Icelander...
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Yep. My mother’s neighbor’s are “La Raza” local leaders. My husband couldn’t understand in HS why if they had La Raza groups and a ‘black student union’ why he couldn’t start a ‘white student union’. He didn’t see it as racist, just equality.
My mother nearly got arrested in Serbia (then Yugoslavia) for working on a cross-stitch publicly of the American pledge of Allegiance (this was under Tito).
I appreciate both Perry's and Palin’s nuanced positions when it comes to immigration.
Your “illegal gateway/superhighway” remark is fallacious.
Rush better rip this idiot tomorrow.
Depends on what’s being said. If it’s the same tired and ran into the ground crap we all heard 1000 times or dragging her name into debates just to use her as a prop, then it shouldn’t come as a shock. If it’s a legit issue, I’m all for discussion.
>>If Perry is such a louse, why was he elected Governor of Texas?<<
I’ll give you a hint: how many Mexicans do you think there are in Texas?
Most illegals I know squat in abandoned homes, out of state ownership homes or winter only homes. They don’t pay property tax of any kind. Not buying it.
That was clear as mud.
Not much point in that. You did say we were a lost cause remember?
Santorum did well in the debate. He could consolidate some of the vote from Cain and Gingrich and the governors of UT and NM if/when they drop out.
Cain all the way
>>I’m with Perry on this, and I’m a native Texan.<<
You are on the wrong forum. Free Republic is a conservative forum.
Weakness on illegal immigration is a liberal position.
There was a point in time when we pretty much didn't care. These were nice people, they did not take government services. They were hard working and the best of them became citizens after the Reagan amnesty and proudly built wonderful small businesses that enhanced the community.
Something changed in the 1990's. Sanctuary cities, motor voter... Federal mandates to the States to support illegals... healthcare, WIC, foodstamps...education (no child left behind). Our communities were flooded with illegals.
Loosening of banking and loan requirements allowed them to buy homes with no credit???? Vehicles also!
Go to the grocery store and watch as a 18 y.o. pregnant woman argues in Spanish with the Stater Brothers market manager to get her entire WIC allotment while three burly men twice her age are threatening in the background...(personally witnessed... the store manager capitulated and let them have the entire month allotment).
Totally screwed up... started in the Clinton years and exacerbated under Bush, because the GOP FEARED the consequences of the Latino vote. It all comes down to politics for these folks.
Nope. It’s the truth. Sorry you don’t agree. Anyone looking with a desire to see reality can see it just fine. What is Mr Speaker to LaRaza doing? Oh yes, opening up the roads to 18 tired deathtraps. TTC anyone? And I have spent a few thousand miles driving Mex 1...You want that here? Better odds getting rich in Vegas.
Well there are other choices besides Romney and Perry..and if Palin runs even more then. who knows Trump may determine to step in again for all wwe know!
At this point Newt looks good as well despite his personal life and "other" questionable behavior. He loves our country and would certainly mop Obama all over the floor in any debate. But I have to look closer at how he sees immigration issues.
Had an illegal not taken you seat in class it would have made more sense I suppose...
>>It’s going to be interesting to listen how old Rushbo is going to try and spin this foot-n-mouth disease remark by Perry on Fridays broadcast.<<
Me too. Rush has disappointed me with his Perry cheerleading, and he is WELL aware of this flaw in Perry.
Don’t spin it, Rush! I respect you, you’re the greatest. I want to continue to respect you.
I have faith that Rush will call Perry out on this crap.
“Ill give you a hint: how many Mexicans do you think there are in Texas?”
and you have to be a Republican to win in Texas
I can accept that those reps faithfully represented the views of the state. But that only means the rest of us have a serious problem with what is viewed as acceptable. A US citizen from a neighboring state pays more for college in Texas than does an illegal alien? There’s something wrong about that situation that people outside of Texas can see pretty clearly.
Perry is offering us George Bush Part Deux.
That’s rough. We were lucky. We didn’t buy when we were in San Diego b/c hubby was in law school. After that we moved back to our hometown and took care of his grandmother and her house so we didn’t have to buy.
We got out as soon as he decided he didnt’ want to practice law in CA. We now own a nice house in a small town in a state that has almost zero illegals, no personal income tax, and proud conservative Americans.
Those "kids" aren't going to be beneficiaries of the Texas Dream Act. You do realize that the only kids who benefit are high school grduates who are going to college?
Anyone who threatens your mother with a baseball bat should be shot and if they survive they should be deported.
I thought you were smarter than this.
WTF are you talking about?
Another batshitcrazy poster.
Stop wasting my time!
“Me too. Rush has disappointed me with his Perry cheerleading, and he is WELL aware of this flaw in Perry.”
but it’s not just about this illegal stuff
I think Americans just dont know sometimes which Mitt Romney theyre dealing with. Is it the Mitt Romney that was on the side of against the Second Amendment before he was for the Second Amendment was it was..before he was before these social programs, uh, from the standpoint he was standing, uh, for Roe vs. Wade before he was against Roe, uh, Roe vs. Wade uh he was uh for Race To The Top
Uh [pause] hes for Obamacare and now hes against it I mean, well wait until tomorrow and, and, and wait to see which Mitt Romney were really talking to
She’s not running.
So now it comes down to whether you will vote for Romney or sit it out and let Obama win 4 more years.
Me, I’ll vote for Romney without even thinking twice about it but I know way too many “purists” here will sit it out and then complain as the country does it’s final death rattle under Obama and wonder why.
None so blind as those who will not see..
G’night all. Best of luck Mar, hope you have a change in that big heart of yours. For the sake of your fellow Americans.
You got a problem with that?
Yeah, as a lifelong Texan, I do. Illegals are a cancer on this nation. They are robbing us blind and we simply can't afford it. Put them on an airplane, land it at mexico's <i>southern</i> border, and let them out. We're either a nation of laws, or we are not. I'm sickened by the fact that the politicians don't recognise the damage they are doing to this nation. Apparently laws ownly apply to us suckers who pay the taxes that let them live large on our dime.
How do you know these people? Do they work for you?
“Perry is offering us George Bush Part Deux.”
Yup. Anutha Dubya.
You must be drunk!
You’re the guy that isn’t aware we have a legal immigration pathway and clueless on Mexican illegals coming into Texas/the US, the TTC superhighway etc and I’m nuts?
That's right. You make no sense whatsoever. You just like to rant and rave.
Take that chip off your shoulder, bucko.
Texas passed a law. You got a problem with Texas passing their own laws? Congress passed a bunch of laws that the executive branch refuses to enforce. Texas enforces their laws. If the Feds enforced their laws like Texas enforces theirs, we wouldn't have an illegal alien problem. Texas can't enforce federal immigration laws.