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Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal
weeklystandard ^ | Thursday September 22, 2011 | JOHN MCCORMACK

Posted on 09/22/2011 8:06:48 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full title: Perry: "I Don't Think You Have a Heart" If You Oppose In-State Tuition for Children of Illegal Immigrants

Perry's response was forceful and personal. "I don't think you have a heart," Perry told his critics.

"If you say that we should not educate children who come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought their through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart," Perry said. "We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature when this issue came up [there were] only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it today."

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KEYWORDS: amnesty; byebyeperry; debates; dreamact; illegals; immigration; openborderperry; palin; perry; perry4dreamact; perry4illegals; perry4openborders; perryisademocrat; rickperry; rino; rinoperry; sarahpalin; texas
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

PING

Care to weigh in and defend Perry on this one?


301 posted on 09/22/2011 11:02:46 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Carling

FR is a lost cause remember? Why are you still here?


302 posted on 09/22/2011 11:03:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: gaijin

What’s wrong with you? You don’t want another “decider”? /s/on


303 posted on 09/22/2011 11:04:15 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: casinva

“Upon going to that link (above) you see Rush advising his listeners that we will need to get the Texas electoral vote to win this election, and we will need to get the Hispanic vote from Obama to win this election against Obama.”

For ten years Rush wouldn’t lift a finger to help those of us who were battling illegal immigration. During the fight to pass Prop 187 in California he wouldn’t take calls on illegal immigration. He wouldn’t take calls on it for years afterward either.

It was only when the grassroots firestorm stopped Dubya’s amnesty dead in its tracks that Rush got around to yelling “Wait! Wait! I’m your leader!” as he ran after the bandwagon and tried to clamber aboard.

So pardon me if I find Rush’s suggestions about the necessity of sucking up to the latino vote to be a pile of dog crap. He’s just going back to what he does best, playing waterboy for the no borders wing of the GOP.


304 posted on 09/22/2011 11:04:22 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Norm Lenhart

We keep agreeing and one of us will have to buy the beer ;)

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Wine for me tonight, but I’ll take you up on beer. Running joke is I’m making up for all the years I spent as a Mormon. ;)

And I agree with your post. Our last neighborhood was where my husband’s grandmother lived (we were living there to keep it from being burned down by the gangs or used as a drug house). He was shot at by the ‘innocent’ little kids for being white. The cops wouldn’t answer calls of shots fired unless we saw a body, the cops defended the gang members across the street when they broke in and robbed us, and we had to wear bullet proof vest (not kidding) to work in our garden.

Innocent my ***.


305 posted on 09/22/2011 11:04:22 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: DB

“A kid going to public school typically costs more than $5,000 per year. Illegals don’t even begin to pay enough taxes to cover their children going to public school”

Unless you pay 3 times the property tax as we do in Texas, even you never completely cover the cost to educate your own kid. A lot of shool taxes comes form homeowners who have no children or whose children have grown up, making them pay shool tax with no kid in the school system.


306 posted on 09/22/2011 11:04:35 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Bigtigermike

Perry has a self inflicted wound. It takes very little to parse what he said before with what would be deemed reasonably fair in another world on another day. But I sense we have only seen the tip of an enormous iceberg when it comes to Perry’s enthusiasm for the goals of La Raza. I sense that if he was not already parsing the heck out of his true beliefs we would have another Gov Richardson on our hands.

No he won’t ever build a fence.

No he won’t punish employers,
No he won’t deport those convicted of a non fence jumping crime.
Yes he will give licenses, instate tuition and benefits.
When he comes to Ohio, he will see the effect of that.

Pray for an alternative to Romney!


307 posted on 09/22/2011 11:04:39 PM PDT by anton
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To: Reagan Man

And perhaps the lone star state wouldn’t be the illegal gateway/superhighway of choice that Perry’s policies made it. But we will never know that either.


308 posted on 09/22/2011 11:05:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Again. A path to legal citizenship or a path to citizenship are one in the same thing. When applied to illegals it means, amnesty.


309 posted on 09/22/2011 11:05:22 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Funny that.


310 posted on 09/22/2011 11:06:00 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“...Palin supporters being ‘cultists’ <<

There is a difference between being a Plain supporter and a Palin cultist.

I am the former, I despise the latter.

If no one can say one negative thing about Palin without you flipping your wig, you are a cultist.


311 posted on 09/22/2011 11:08:11 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: reaganaut

Thanks! we can’t afford to move since the housing market has crashed.


312 posted on 09/22/2011 11:08:53 PM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: bamahead
Re: Vision of the Annointed.

That looks like something I need to read. I'm working on Mark Steyn's "After America" right now, but it is slow going because it is absolutely infuriating. Steyn is the greatest writer alive today in my opinion.

313 posted on 09/22/2011 11:08:55 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: dusttoyou

Actually, I have two teenage kids and I pay about double in property taxes the costs of my two kids going to school each year.


314 posted on 09/22/2011 11:09:20 PM PDT by DB
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To: Norm Lenhart

We should probably take this up in Mail if you want to continue it.


315 posted on 09/22/2011 11:09:29 PM PDT by Carling (Mitt Romney Signed a Bill that Mandated Taxpayer-funded Abortions)
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To: Carling

Well thanks Carling, but I know what a time my husband has trying to put up with me. I don’t think Rick Perry needs that right now too! LOL

So I’ve decided that Rick Perry doesn’t appear to have debate skills as his top talent, but I still know who he is, and he’s still my candidate of choice. Let’s hope he gets a few good speeches in where people can see him in that venue before he does another debate or so! LOL

Thanks for the nice note!


316 posted on 09/22/2011 11:10:13 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving up so many whoppers.)
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To: reaganaut

You don’t need wine, you need Yukon Jack!! and a Ma Duce... Good lord. That’s one hell of a testimony to the true face of illegal immigration.

But I’m sure you just made that up because you are a Perry hater like me that just wants Romney elected...Or I’m sure one of his (diminishing number of) supporters will be here shortly to tell you how you imagined the whole thing. Either way as long as they can excuse the actual result of policies he supports.


317 posted on 09/22/2011 11:10:49 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Reagan Man

So you are saying the path to legal citizenship that has been in place since before Ellis Island is Amnesty...got it.


318 posted on 09/22/2011 11:12:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart; mrreaganaut

Same here. We get a lot of that, along with stickers and flag license plates. It’s all Reconquista/LaRaza crap. If I emigrated to Iceland, why would I keep flying an American flag? Only if I really didn’t consider myself an Icelander...

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Yep. My mother’s neighbor’s are “La Raza” local leaders. My husband couldn’t understand in HS why if they had La Raza groups and a ‘black student union’ why he couldn’t start a ‘white student union’. He didn’t see it as racist, just equality.

My mother nearly got arrested in Serbia (then Yugoslavia) for working on a cross-stitch publicly of the American pledge of Allegiance (this was under Tito).


319 posted on 09/22/2011 11:12:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Norm Lenhart
LOL The in-state tuition is not a free ride. They have to pay for it like anyone else who lives in the state and meets the requirements.

I appreciate both Perry's and Palin’s nuanced positions when it comes to immigration.

Your “illegal gateway/superhighway” remark is fallacious.

320 posted on 09/22/2011 11:13:15 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: LongWayHome

Rush better rip this idiot tomorrow.


321 posted on 09/22/2011 11:13:23 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Depends on what’s being said. If it’s the same tired and ran into the ground crap we all heard 1000 times or dragging her name into debates just to use her as a prop, then it shouldn’t come as a shock. If it’s a legit issue, I’m all for discussion.


322 posted on 09/22/2011 11:14:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Gene Eric

>>If Perry is such a louse, why was he elected Governor of Texas?<<

I’ll give you a hint: how many Mexicans do you think there are in Texas?

WAKE UP.


323 posted on 09/22/2011 11:14:27 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: dusttoyou

Most illegals I know squat in abandoned homes, out of state ownership homes or winter only homes. They don’t pay property tax of any kind. Not buying it.


324 posted on 09/22/2011 11:14:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Norm Lenhart

That was clear as mud.


325 posted on 09/22/2011 11:14:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Carling

Not much point in that. You did say we were a lost cause remember?


326 posted on 09/22/2011 11:15:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Jvette

Santorum did well in the debate. He could consolidate some of the vote from Cain and Gingrich and the governors of UT and NM if/when they drop out.


327 posted on 09/22/2011 11:16:27 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Bigtigermike

Cain all the way


328 posted on 09/22/2011 11:18:13 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: mikhailovich

>>I’m with Perry on this, and I’m a native Texan.<<

You are on the wrong forum. Free Republic is a conservative forum.

Weakness on illegal immigration is a liberal position.


329 posted on 09/22/2011 11:18:18 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: dusttoyou
It's an interesting story over several decades... illegals here in California.

There was a point in time when we pretty much didn't care. These were nice people, they did not take government services. They were hard working and the best of them became citizens after the Reagan amnesty and proudly built wonderful small businesses that enhanced the community.

Something changed in the 1990's. Sanctuary cities, motor voter... Federal mandates to the States to support illegals... healthcare, WIC, foodstamps...education (no child left behind). Our communities were flooded with illegals.

Loosening of banking and loan requirements allowed them to buy homes with no credit???? Vehicles also!

WTH!

Go to the grocery store and watch as a 18 y.o. pregnant woman argues in Spanish with the Stater Brothers market manager to get her entire WIC allotment while three burly men twice her age are threatening in the background...(personally witnessed... the store manager capitulated and let them have the entire month allotment).

Totally screwed up... started in the Clinton years and exacerbated under Bush, because the GOP FEARED the consequences of the Latino vote. It all comes down to politics for these folks.

330 posted on 09/22/2011 11:18:34 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Reagan Man

Nope. It’s the truth. Sorry you don’t agree. Anyone looking with a desire to see reality can see it just fine. What is Mr Speaker to LaRaza doing? Oh yes, opening up the roads to 18 tired deathtraps. TTC anyone? And I have spent a few thousand miles driving Mex 1...You want that here? Better odds getting rich in Vegas.


331 posted on 09/22/2011 11:19:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: LouAvul
If Perry’s the nominee, or any other RINO who favors forfeiting our nation to third worlders, I think I’m going to sit the next election out.

Well there are other choices besides Romney and Perry..and if Palin runs even more then. who knows Trump may determine to step in again for all wwe know!

At this point Newt looks good as well despite his personal life and "other" questionable behavior. He loves our country and would certainly mop Obama all over the floor in any debate. But I have to look closer at how he sees immigration issues.

332 posted on 09/22/2011 11:20:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: Reagan Man

Had an illegal not taken you seat in class it would have made more sense I suppose...


333 posted on 09/22/2011 11:21:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Ron H.

>>It’s going to be interesting to listen how old Rushbo is going to try and spin this foot-n-mouth disease remark by Perry on Fridays broadcast.<<

Me too. Rush has disappointed me with his Perry cheerleading, and he is WELL aware of this flaw in Perry.

Don’t spin it, Rush! I respect you, you’re the greatest. I want to continue to respect you.

I have faith that Rush will call Perry out on this crap.


334 posted on 09/22/2011 11:21:08 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

“I’ll give you a hint: how many Mexicans do you think there are in Texas?”

and you have to be a Republican to win in Texas


335 posted on 09/22/2011 11:21:08 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: Gene Eric

I can accept that those reps faithfully represented the views of the state. But that only means the rest of us have a serious problem with what is viewed as acceptable. A US citizen from a neighboring state pays more for college in Texas than does an illegal alien? There’s something wrong about that situation that people outside of Texas can see pretty clearly.

Perry is offering us George Bush Part Deux.


336 posted on 09/22/2011 11:22:07 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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To: CAluvdubya

That’s rough. We were lucky. We didn’t buy when we were in San Diego b/c hubby was in law school. After that we moved back to our hometown and took care of his grandmother and her house so we didn’t have to buy.

We got out as soon as he decided he didnt’ want to practice law in CA. We now own a nice house in a small town in a state that has almost zero illegals, no personal income tax, and proud conservative Americans.


337 posted on 09/22/2011 11:22:22 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
My mother shouldn’t have to carry a gun on her own property because these ‘innocent’ kids (in your eyes) threaten her with baseball bats every day.

Those "kids" aren't going to be beneficiaries of the Texas Dream Act. You do realize that the only kids who benefit are high school grduates who are going to college?

Anyone who threatens your mother with a baseball bat should be shot and if they survive they should be deported.

I thought you were smarter than this.

338 posted on 09/22/2011 11:22:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Norm Lenhart

WTF are you talking about?

Another batshitcrazy poster.

Stop wasting my time!


339 posted on 09/22/2011 11:24:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: sklar

Bingo


340 posted on 09/22/2011 11:24:05 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

“Me too. Rush has disappointed me with his Perry cheerleading, and he is WELL aware of this flaw in Perry.”

but it’s not just about this illegal stuff

“I think Americans just don’t know sometimes which Mitt Romney they’re dealing with. Is it the Mitt Romney that was on the side of…against…the Second Amendment before he was for the Second Amendment…was it was..before he was before these social programs, uh, from the standpoint he was standing, uh, for Roe vs. Wade before he was against Roe, uh, Roe vs. Wade…uh…he was…uh for Race To The Top…

Uh…[pause]…he’s for Obamacare and now he’s against it…I mean, we’ll wait until tomorrow and, and, and wait to see which Mitt Romney we’re really talking to…


341 posted on 09/22/2011 11:24:36 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: gaijin

She’s not running.

So now it comes down to whether you will vote for Romney or sit it out and let Obama win 4 more years.

Me, I’ll vote for Romney without even thinking twice about it but I know way too many “purists” here will sit it out and then complain as the country does it’s final death rattle under Obama and wonder why.


342 posted on 09/22/2011 11:25:31 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: P-Marlowe

None so blind as those who will not see..

G’night all. Best of luck Mar, hope you have a change in that big heart of yours. For the sake of your fellow Americans.


343 posted on 09/22/2011 11:25:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: P-Marlowe
And Texas has passed a law giving these children the same rights as any other Texas child who has worked hard and graduated from a Texas High School. That is the law of Texas.

You got a problem with that?

Yeah, as a lifelong Texan, I do.  Illegals are a cancer on this nation.  They are robbing us blind and we simply can't afford it. Put them on an airplane, land it at mexico's <i>southern</i> border, and let them out. We're either a nation of laws, or we are not. I'm sickened by the fact that the politicians don't recognise the damage they are doing to this nation. Apparently laws ownly apply to us suckers who pay the taxes that let them live large on our dime.

344 posted on 09/22/2011 11:25:41 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: reaganaut
Most illegals I know squat in abandoned homes,

How do you know these people? Do they work for you?

345 posted on 09/22/2011 11:26:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: icanhasbailout

“Perry is offering us George Bush Part Deux.”

Yup. Anutha Dubya.


346 posted on 09/22/2011 11:27:01 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You must be drunk!


347 posted on 09/22/2011 11:27:08 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

You’re the guy that isn’t aware we have a legal immigration pathway and clueless on Mexican illegals coming into Texas/the US, the TTC superhighway etc and I’m nuts?

Toodles RM.


348 posted on 09/22/2011 11:27:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart
>>>>>... and I’m nuts?

That's right. You make no sense whatsoever. You just like to rant and rave.

Take that chip off your shoulder, bucko.

349 posted on 09/22/2011 11:30:52 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: zeugma
We're either a nation of laws, or we are not.

Texas passed a law. You got a problem with Texas passing their own laws? Congress passed a bunch of laws that the executive branch refuses to enforce. Texas enforces their laws. If the Feds enforced their laws like Texas enforces theirs, we wouldn't have an illegal alien problem. Texas can't enforce federal immigration laws.

350 posted on 09/22/2011 11:32:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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