Skip to comments.Palin Hints "Unconventional" Landscape May Allow for Post-Nov. Entry
Posted on 09/22/2011 8:22:52 PM PDT by Clairity
Political logic and election law suggest that anyone hoping to make a serious run for the White House next year will need to be formally in the race by November.
Sarah Palin isn't so sure.
' The former Alaska governor appeared on Sean Hannityâs Fox News show on Tuesday, where she hinted ever so slightly that the current "unconventional" political landscape may allow for a later entry. (At the least, she has already proved that the current landscape has allowed would - be candidates to drag out their decisions much longer than one would expect.)
Here was her response to Hannity's first question about whether she was ready to jump in the race: "There is still time, Sean, and I think on both sides of the aisle youâre going to see people coming and going in this race. ... And I'm still one of those still considering the time factor."
(Excerpt) Read more at slatest.slate.com ...
Really,Hillary got a facelift.She’s running.
She’ll announce on election night... for maximum impact, you know...
And just how well did that work out for Wilkie....
What an embarrassment. All this hype you've given him, and he's a pathetic bumbler.
I watched for the first time last night, and he underperformed even my low expectations from reading how he did in the first two debates. If he can't handle a soft ball attempt to take down Romney, how in the heck is he going to face some of the leaders of other countries? He's going to drop like a rock, his weaknesses concerning his record and his shortcomings were there for everyone to see.
Congrats on feeding this rumor thread, I understand why you had to make such a big deal about a hint of someones idea of what Sarah Palin may or may not have said about November, after all your candidate just showed himself to be one monstrous pandering dud.
I think on both sides of the aisle youâre going to see people coming and going in this race. ...
Interesting, both sides of the aisle?
With Obama sinking like a lead weight, day by day, it is more and more likely the Dems will pressure him to drop out.
The big question is who they would have to put on the ballot. Hillary is the only one with name recognition at this time. The Dems are flush with cash (five trillion dollars of stolen taxpayer money has to leave plenty of crumbs).
These GOP debates are like so much fluff; "Dancing With the Stars" meets "Dumb and Dumber".
Romney is trying to sound Palinesque, but doesn't even seem to believe the stuff he is saying (today).
Perry is trying to channel GWB, with half the IQ, and twice the BS and swagger. But, Bless his Heart??? He's really not doin' so bad for a feller who so recently took to readin' ??? That boy just reeks of corruption.
Palin is smart to avoid this monkey-wrestling fiasco. Rove still has a couple of RINOs waiting in the wings, as each of the establishment picks goes face-first into the mud, one after another. Next it'll be Chris Christie, then Jeb Bush, then another, then another; all anti-American, globalist, corrupt to the bone, scumbags.
“Palin would not win a 3 way race, she’d get crushed and probably just siphon off enough voters to help Hussein was re-elected.”
Maybe that’s what Palin wants — four more years of Zero. As long as Obama is in office she stays relevant.
That's the way they always did it in the old days.
LOL...I was drinking coffee. Where was the spew alert?
The media will have no problem if Hillary gets in the race on October 1st, 2012. It will be reasonable and sensible and amazing. I get the feeling Palin and Clinton are playing chicken. As soon as Sarah announces Hillary will be in the next day to steal her press. Or vice versa.
At least six of the nine participants would beat Obama.
Flex time — I am still putting in a lot of hours, but I take breaks. I quit smoking years ago and torturing you and your ilk is a great substitute.
You gotta admit that you guys make it all worthwhile.
How is that working out for them?
Unlike Sarah Palin, they are taken seriously.
Even Bachmann, who has the least experience as compared to Perry, Romney and Obama, is given the grudging respect of being somebody that at least entered the Arena and is trying to win.
Outside of her extremely loyal Fan Club, Sarah Palin is seen merely as the punchline of countless jokes and seen as the epicenter of fights and dramas that have more to do with Levi Johnston, Joe McGuiness, Reality TV and getting grilled by the National Enquirer than they have to do with Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, getting grilled on Meet the Press or getting grilled on prime time in the nationally televised Arena of a Presidential debate.
Sarah Palin would be totally irrelevant except for the fact that her extremely loyal Fan Club (13% of GOP voters) believes that their mission in life is to throw bottles at any and every GOP candidate in the Arena that is more conservative than Romney whose name is not "Sarah Palin".
Sarah Palin would be totally irrelevant except for the fact that the Reality TV show that her Fan Club are interactive participants in is now helping Mitt Romney secure the GOP nomination because her Fan Club plays along and throws bottles into the Arena while they wait for the Great Pumpkin to fly in and defeat Romney some time around next Halloween.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." ..... Theodore Roosevelt
Well this last debate fully exposed Perry as a RINO like I’ve been saying. And though I hate to admit it, Michele has been failing lately.
Sarah might really be our last hope, and there is finally a niche opening up for her.
“Sarah Palin would be totally irrelevant except for the fact that the Reality TV show that her Fan Club are interactive participants in is now helping Mitt Romney secure the GOP nomination because her Fan Club plays along and throws bottles into the Arena while they wait for the Great Pumpkin to fly in and defeat Romney some time around next Halloween.”
This is exactly the problem. And they are so blind they don’t see that all they are doing is helping Romney, because Palin is NOT running, just leading on her obsessive fans.
Sarah Palin has not allowed herself to be grilled in a hostile environment since 2008.
Sarah Palin's interviews consist of ultra-safe, cream puff interviewers by her fellow FOX News employees, Sean Hannity and Greta Van Susteren.
When faced by an actual hostile interviewer whose job is not to protect her, Sarah Palin becomes a deer in the headlights that cannot even come up with the name of a single national newspaper.
Couric: And when it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?
Palin: I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Couric: What, specifically?
Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.
Couric: Can you name a few?
Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?" Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.
34-33-32? Wow, that scenario is remote but not impossible. I'd like to see a proposed EV breakdown of that.
Get over yourself and your complaints, please it gets very tiresome. No one likes negativity all the time.
“...This is exactly the problem. And they are so blind they dont see that all they are doing is helping Romney, because Palin is NOT running, just leading on her obsessive fans.”
Palin is helping Obama get re-elected. Four more years of President Zero means she can keep renewing her lucrative contract at Fox News. Maybe she will run in 2016 if there still is a United States.
A thousand pardons ...
Your trying to frame the argument as if given a real choice I, and may others, would chose Romney over Palin. Probably most conservatives would still chose Palin. Third party bids are simply not a real choice.
I don't follow your logic at all, but there you have it. Again--that kind of thinking is how we got where we are.
It just sounds like your one of these hard heads that just can't accept that the US has a 2 party system. We have a winner take all set up and no option for coalition government. I'd have thought you could look at the last hundred plus years of history and see pretty plainly that 3rd party bids don't succeed and only serve as spoilers.
Not only would I not vote for Palin if she ran a dopey 3rd party vanity bid, I would pretty much lose all respect for her considering she's be essentially helping Hussein win a 2nd term.
“But she has to commit, NOW. Not later.”
The only time constraint I can see is the various filing dates for state primary elections.
When does the first one close????? Iowa???? When? middish Oct.......
Since Iowa is a caucus state and subject to masssive manipulation by various campaign organizations I hold the results there in little regard. Candidates have been known to skip some of the earlier primaries......so even Iowa’s filing deadline may not be limiting factor.
The small state of NH seems, at least to me, of more import than Iowa because you actually have to campaign there to win (just getting your people to hang around a caucus room isn’t enough).
Still I believe Palin will run and do well in Iowa, and will have a creditible presence in NH with vote totals that put her on the map. From there Carolina and Florida will establish direction and energy that will carry the day into super tuesday........
Being a Palin supporter I have faith that, because this isn’t her first rodeo, she knows what she is doing and has mapped out a plan of action/strategy that suits her campaign style and tactics....... as in all things, time will tell.....I plan to relax and enjoy the ride...
“she should have put herself up for scrutiny like everyone else.”
Are you suggesting that over the past 3 years Palin hasn’t been scrutinized? LOLOLOLOL.........
“Are you suggesting that over the past 3 years Palin hasnt been scrutinized? LOLOLOLOL.........”
She was scrutinized plenty on personal matters but not on political issues.
I'm marking your post for future reference, to see if you're correct.
Because I think you are.
I've been saying all along that people should prepare for the distinct possibility that the Dem nominee won't be Obama. A lot of folks are now thinking "Hillary" again, but as far as I'm concerned, she's only the most obvious possibility at this time. We really truly have ZERO IDEA who the Dem nominee is going to be -- it could very well be someone totally off our radar at this moment. It's wise for us to focus on WHAT the Republican will be running against, and forget about the WHO, because we simply have zero idea who that WHO will be.
By the time there IS any vote, she will either be in or out, so how is the “splitting the conservative vote” by not announcing yet? These polls that are being taken right now don’t mean a thing, unless they convince people to close their minds before the time to vote ever comes up. And if people are going to do that, then people are stupid and this nation is probably not worth saving anyway.
The longer she is out of the race, the more time she can spend hitting Obama rather than hitting the people seeking to replace Obama. The campaign season is too long. By the time we get to the vote, everybody is sick of politics. And by that time we know every bad thing about the R and nothing about the D. Especially if the R’s have a primary season and the D doesn’t.
I didn’t want there to be a primary season this time at all. Or at least as short a primary season as possible. What we need is for the conservatives to join together to hit Obama and then from among those who are fighting the good fight we choose one who can carry the standard for us all. I dreaded seeing, for instance, Palin and Bachmann get into a cat-fight. That would diminish both of them. Right now they should be fighting Obama, and we should be watching to see who is most effective at doing what is best for the country within the roles they have.
We have to be smart. I think of the Bilbo Baggins thing of getting the two trolls to fight about how to prepare Bilbo for supper, until the sun came up and turned them to stone. I can’t help but think that in a time like this, having this long a primary season does the same thing. These people should be helping to fix the nation’s situation, not bickering with each other. More than anything, we need somebody who puts the good of the country above their own personal ambitions.
Sarah is smart to give herself the option of doing just that. As long as she is hitting Obama/Pelosi/Reid she is serving this country. And I wish they all were doing the same. The other person who seems to understand that is Newt Gingrich, and his attempts to keep the focus on battling Obama rather than battling each other in (vain) personal ambition make me respect him more than I otherwise would. We can’t just win the battle, we also have to win the war.
Folks, this is why I long ago ceased reading posts by dumb03. The words excerpted above happened to catch my eye as I was skimming past his post because the post was addressed to Windflier, and I'm a big fan of Windflier.
It's bad enough that dumb03 posts stupid clutter, as opposed to the Palin detractors here whose posts are worth considering because what they say is worthy of thought or at least provides insight into the opposition, even if I think their opinions and conclusions are wrong. But this guy is an empty plastic cup, and a malevolent one, at that.
I stopped wasting my time reading his predictable crap. I just pass him by and move on to the next post. "It makes for a more harmonious outcome."
Then, what is it that you're doing here with the constant bottles you throw at Palin when she's not even in the running (yet), and why?
Seems to me that if you really believed what you say, you wouldn't even be bothering with the Palin threads.
1. From your behavior here, it appears as if YOUR number one priority is demoralizing Palin's supporters. You do it on the pretense that "she's only helping Romney," an interesting scare tactic but one that's as leaky as a sieve this early in the game, as intelligent people understand.
2. Your tagline describes a strategy where the Democrats set the terms of battle. If Obama ends up not getting the nomination, what will "our" number one priority be then? Beating Hillary, as it was at this point in the game in 2007? And what if Hillary ends up getting ousted by a nominee nobody took seriously at first, as she did in 2008 -- what will our "number one priority" be then?
You are playing defense.
From what I've read of Palin's history and tactics, in her book and in countless news stories and internet discussions going back to 2004, she plays OFFENSE. It's her style.
I hope she gets in the race, and I hope she wins the whole thing. But as long as she's undeclared, it's certainly no skin off your nose or that of your favorite candidate -- therefore I really do sense that "thou doest protest too much."
Yes he is, and I don't know why that destructive behavior is allowed here. His posts on the Palin threads amount to nothing more than certified trolling, which would get any newcomer banned.
More of the Sarah Palin tease. It used to be liberals who made nasty jokes about her. Now she made herself into a joke. A joke candidate or is it non-candidate? No one cares anymore except for the Palin die-hards
“No one likes negativity all the time.”
That is certainly true. Maybe you can share your philosophy with all the other Palin supporters who fill up all the Perry threads with smears against Perry.
If she is going to run, and if she runs, I think she will get the nomination. But, the Democrats are going to throw a ton of crud her way and try to make the election about her.
She needs to take the crud, deal with it early and get it out of the way.
That way by next summer her “image” is old news and the election is about Obama’s weaknesses.
A Palin-Obama contest will be fought in one of two ways:
If the left and the mainstream media set the tone in the fall, and the contest is about “Caribou Barbie” and the media image of Palin, then she will lose, narrowly, but lose.
If she goes earlier, takes the crud, handles it, and gets it out of the way, then by summer it is old news. Then she can focus attention on unemployment and Obama’s mis-handling of the economy, energy, the scale of the disaster of Obamacare, Gunwalker, The Middle East, etc.
If the election is about Obama, and how the the Emperor has no clothes, then she will win every Bush 2004 state, plus places like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Unlike Obama, she has a record of success in office and in 2012 will still have more executive experience than him.
But she has to end the uncertainty, set the tone, take the “incoming fire” and bucket loads of crud about her background and personal life. Unite the party, around her and have it all resolved by April.
Then the next five months are about Obama and the string of failures and false promises he has left in his wake.
Angling for Sec'y of State.
Welcome to 5% of the vote and a completely pointless effort that will be largely forgotten quickly unless it enabled Hussein to get re-elected.
Sorry, I've been down the 3rd party road. It's a total waste of effort once you realize that our winner take all system is just not set up to allow for it. Without a way to build coalition governments, 3rd party bids are doomed to failure. Maybe in the next couple hundred years one will rise, but it would only be to replace the other party - then the new party will be the second leg of the two party system.
Sarah Palin is not an idiot and won't be running 3rd party anyway. She has made it perfectly clear "Anybody but Obama" is an overriding factor this cycle. And I am very sorry to burst your bubble, but if Romney wins the nomination, you can bet that Palin will endorse and campaign for him.
Probably a good move on his part. How is he on foreign policy?
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Considering she just recently got a brand spanking new face-lift, as a teenager would say: Duhhhhh!
On the other hand, the Dems could totally surprize us, and push forward a whole new standard bearer, some fresh-faced version of that tobacco lawsuit lawyer (I forget his name already; Edwards or some such).
Precisely. I think Palin could win with 40% of the vote over Obomney.
We were discussing this just earlier in the summer. This is the RNC's moment of truth: "Do I want to live, or do I want to die?"
The RNC has $24 Million in debt, less than $40 Million in cash, and is spending sixty cents on fundraising for every dollar raised. The RNC cannot afford to run one Senate campaign in one medium-sized state, and cannot raise money from the grassroots small donors, as has been their traditional bread and butter.
If the RNC pushes another RINO like Romney or Perry, against the wishes of the grassroots TEA Party voters, the RNC is a dead duck, and will go the way of the Whigs.
The "moderate" Republicans make up less than 25% of registered Republicans.
Independents are leaning almost 60% conservative (not Republican), almost opposite the 2008 split, more along the lines of the 2010 midterm, but more intense.
Democrats have lost the majority of young college and recent graduates, as well as 30%+ of hispanic voters, and 15% to 20% of Black voters.
In a three-way race against Palin, Romney and Obama would be competing for the about 40% liberals of the total vote. With Hillary getting more Independents, it would probably not work.
In a two-way race, Palin would probaly beat Obama 60-40, or better (record landslide). Against Hillary, it would be a fight, but I believe we would still win, because more of the Black voters would drop out.
The media wants a horse race, within a couple points of 50/50, so they can rake in gazillions with the hype. We the People are gearing up for a long-overdue, thorough cleansing of the body politic.
Zero has $100s of millions raised, either by his own committee, or laundered through so-called stimulus projects into various agitprop organizations, not to mention the 527s which work for his ass. It won’t be easy to rid ourselves of the Kenyan, and that’s not even considering all his partisan media shills and phony ballots a la typical Demwit tactics.
“She was scrutinized plenty on personal matters but not on political issues.”
Not so....Sarah has written numrious policy and opinion piecs in addition to making speeches both domestically and internationally. She has been more throughly vetted than any canidate in he past 60 years (or longer).
Overall you’ve made some excellent points......I think that you’ll find out in the end that Palin’s strategy will be along those same lines. Obama’s failures will be the focus of her attention
She still has plenty of time to execute her strategy. Its gonna be fun watching it all unfold.
Sarah will show America what a leader can do even in her own campaign. I doubt she will pay millions of dollars to high powered professionals who will tell her how to dress, how to talk, etc, like they did when she was the VP candidate. This entire campaign will be for WE THE PEOPLE and true patriots and everyday Americans will jump on board with small contributions, all they can afford, but there will be so many, it will dwarf what the O can raise.
You want hope and change? Sarah will give us true hope, and relentless reform. Sarah is the one, I feel it in my gut...as Gibbs would say. Sarah is the only one now. The RINO establishment is still trying to shove yet one more RINO down our throats. Now they want Chris Christy, the flavor of the day...one of their own, just one more RINO. Look at his record, it is even worse than Perry and Romney if you can imagine. Do they really think we will not see what is heppening?
EAGLES UP SARAH!
The Rino establishment now see *Rick* Romney and *Mitt* Perry are not doing it, so now they'll let *Rick/Mitt/Chris* Christy take a spin at it.......Anybody but Sarah.
Sarah needs to run!
“If Sarah is able to make the case that she should be elected, she has a whole year before she has to start.”
Realistically, she has a little over a month. October 30th.