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Chris Christie Reconsidering 2012 Run, Will Decide in Days
Newsmax via Drudge ^

Posted on 09/23/2011 2:56:24 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is reconsidering his decision not to enter the 2012 presidential race — and he says he will let top Republican donors know within days about his plans, Newsmax has learned. During the past few weeks, several leading Republican donors and fundraisers have been urging the popular Republican governor to reconsider his decision not to run and to enter the GOP primary. These Christie supporters note that significant GOP support has remained on the sidelines of the primary fight. Many leading fundraisers have yet to commit to any current primary contender, including frontrunners Rick Perry and Mitt Romney. Newsmax has learned that the effort to draft Christie culminated in a hush-hush powwow held in the past week with Christie and several notable Republican billionaires.

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To: grey_whiskers

I did it last late night..I may not post much but I read a lot.
I am waiting to make my choice..I like Perry but he is a terrible debater..I like Palin but she has not declared..I like Cain but worry about his lack of experience..Newt is great in the debates but has way too much baggage. Newt was once my hero long ago..but he can’t lead and gets mushy.

I am definitely ABO


401 posted on 09/24/2011 2:53:19 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: TomGuy

The Wall Street Journal-Ann Coulter-Bill Kristol axis doesn’t care if Christie’s been in office for only five minutes, with no national name recognition, who-knows-what skeletons in his closet, with no Palin-or-Perry zest for campaigning with crowds, New Joisie accent, gigantic weight problem, and RINO on social issues.

The Eastern Seaboard elites don’t care about all those flaws. So long as as the name is not Palin or Perry.


402 posted on 09/24/2011 2:57:54 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: MEG33; RitaOK
Well, that's interesting.

Here I was tempted to believe you were trying to take credit for someone else's dropping the dime :-)

But...since you were kind enough to address me directly, and then proceed to substance, let's converse on that level.

I have several fundamental disagreements with Perry on policy, so he's out.

(Using the EO on Gardasil and then claiming it couldn't be overridden by the legislature, then claiming "he's listened to the public" once they DID override him; doing the EO "to get Medicaid funding" but claiming to run to get the Feds out of our lives; being a globalist (e.g. the Trans Texas Corridor's tolls were to be collected by a Spanish company); pandering to illegals (Texas Dream Act setting ILLEGAL aliens on an equal footing with some US citizens, and above others); "pay-to-play" (too numerous to mention, but it includes > $10 million to Countrywide financial and a $55 million slush fund from rich backers to Blitzkrieg the GOP primary process).

And the fact that he has shown in the debates that he is just bone-crushingly *STUPID*: he had Romney right in his sights with the "flip-flop" speech all memorized and flubbed it: and if Obama is a post-turtle, Perry is a post.

He is a creature of his handlers and backers, and is too reliant on bragging about TEXAS for a national audience: what plays when running for the GOP Governor's office in Texas won't play when running for the President of all the US -- you can brag about your state but do it in a self-deprecating way, with humor, not like an aggressive tire salesman poking his finger through a customer's chest ("Whoa, pal. You don't need four new tires; you need at least SIX. Don't he need six new tires, Chuck?")

Not to mention supporting GORE while REAGAN WAS STILL IN OFFICE: you can talk about 'the most conservative Democrat' but none of them can hold a candle to Renaldus Magnus.

I think Palin is going to declare; she's just waiting for a signal, or circumstances, known to her but not to us (Christie or Jeb entering in to weaken Romney; some significant hit on Obama, say Nader or Hillary declaring they will primary him?); but she's cutting it awfully close from a logistics point of view, even considering the boots already on the ground via Conservatives4Palin: and I wouldn't rule out the Dems trying dirty tricks to try to disqualify her from key primaries at a late date.

Cain's lack of experience is peculiar: he has been an executive, but only in the private sector. Which means that when you say "jump" everyone else says "How high?" and it doesn't work like that in D.C. And to make it worse, you have a hostile press deliberately MISreporting in the Dems' favor, to include leaks from your own side by people with an axe to grind. Palin has no illusions anymore about the Press, and has obviously learned a lot about playing them like a fiddle. I don't know if Cain has the luxury of *that* kind of a learning curve.

Newt -- if it weren't for his past affairs and the AGW sofa ad with Pelosi, he'd have grown on me. I'd like to see him as part of Cain's or Palin's "kitchen cabinet" (if you remember your US history and Andrew Jackson).

I'd like to be ABO but I don't know if I can quite stomach Romney or Perry or Ron Paul.

That's why I'm pulling for Palin so hard.

Rita: you claimed earlier I couldn't argue and had no substance, and I invited you to offer some substance rather than mindless cheering squad.

So here's a brief take of my opinions on the candidates. Cheers!

403 posted on 09/24/2011 3:12:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I know your views on Perry and we Texans in general, gw..

I think if Palin is getting in ..it must be soon..I don’t do the guessing just when game ..

Cain just won the Florida straw vote BIG


404 posted on 09/24/2011 3:29:44 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: MEG33
I know your views on Perry and we Texans in general, gw..

OK -- did you note my comments on Cain? And that I had substantive policy disagreements with Perry, as well as his "campaign bedside manner"?

Palin has a trick up her sleeve: I've always had a hard time even surmising who she'd pick as VP -- my best guess (and I'm neither confident nor happy in it) would be Petraeus to shore up her foreign policy / military chops.

So I've tentatively concluded she's going to do something as far off the wall as when she resigned as Governor in Alaska in order to go on the offensive against the Dems.

Other than naming Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck as her VP, though, I can't imagine what it is.

Cheers!

405 posted on 09/24/2011 3:34:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SideoutFred
Now if you dare to say you would vote for someone like Romney if it was him vs Obama, you’re threatened as a zot.

Uh, more than "threatened".

Many people don't discuss conservatism here much anymore because you never know what will be deemed Politically Incorrect from day-to-day.

Some flip-flops I don't mind, like the more firm anti-illegal-immigration stance since the early days, but it's funny to hear people throw the term "RINO" out there without stopping to think of what it means. Heck, the "Republican" platform doesn't include eliminatino of the Department of Education, but I bet many think that a RINO would be in favor of keeping it.

406 posted on 09/24/2011 3:36:52 PM PDT by Gondring (Gone d'Anconia)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; free me
Perhaps not, and I didn’t say he would. But he’d win PA.

Yes, he would.

I'm not a big fan of Gov. Christie in many roles, but perhaps as POTUS at this juncture, he'd be better than our current one.

I disagree with his abortion stance, but I doubt that stance will be very relevant in this term anyway. We need to focus on winning both houses of Congress before thinking we're going to see much progress on some fronts.

But his anti-gun stance is an aspect where I see the potential for great harm.

407 posted on 09/24/2011 3:42:46 PM PDT by Gondring (Gone d'Anconia)
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To: Gondring

Christie is Pro-Life. He has cut off some state funding for the abortion mills in NJ since becoming Governor.

He used to say he was “pro-choice” but changed some years ago. Hist story about why he changed his mind is believable too.


408 posted on 09/24/2011 4:14:22 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: free me
Christie is Pro-Life. He has cut off some state funding for the abortion mills in NJ since becoming Governor.

He used to say he was “pro-choice” but changed some years ago. Hist story about why he changed his mind is believable too.

Thanks for the correction/information!

409 posted on 09/24/2011 4:21:48 PM PDT by Gondring (Gone d'Anconia)
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To: presently no screen name
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Verse was spoken to Israel...just for clarity.

However I do understand you're position. Yet I see that we ARE fast becoming a Godless nation every day...power/money does rule the day in the halls of Washington and among politicians of our day...just as it did throughout the Roman Empire.

Furthermore our Constitution is being trampled on, ignored, reconfigured and abused... and more like a rumple strip to pass over for those with power/and money/ and influences by.

If the powers that be feared "we the People" we would not be in the straits we see our country in today. Not only do they not fear the people, but we are used as cannon fodder amongst them while they fire their cannons between themselves.

I do not underestimate God's power to intervene in the whiles of men, but I also know He is also a God of Justice and our nation deserves this for how we have misaligned our priorities, allowed and encouraged corruption and all manner of evils in our country... opened our borders for the "hoards" to come in and with them an agenda of their own which is not American, rather serving their own interests and agendas in claiming and/or reclaiming this nation for themselves. While doing so we have our politicians pandering to them for their votes rather than taking firm stands for what is right for this nation.

The ONLY power we have is at the ballot box and we know the corruption there as well, which for that demands whoever we vote for now must be a landslide vote in order to stop the trajectory this nation is on.

We should be seeking Conservative candidates who 'believe' in what you have written...not many running do...rather they too play lip-service to what the people want to hear.

Our sin is not that we have not sought God...it's we've allowed Him to be pushed from the halls , schools, hospitals and every other institution of our great land....when it is we who should have stood at those times....they didn't grab the power...enough of us weren't paying attention while they rolled their people into place to change our laws...instill ridiculous ones..and basically set the parameters of control in place..

Money is not the problem...it's those who weld it for wrongdoing ...and we allow it to continue.

This primary election and vetting of candidates is revealing not just who the candidates are conservative or not, but even who are conservative or not here on FR.

Time will surely tell the whole story...it always does.

410 posted on 09/24/2011 4:33:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

This primary election and vetting of candidates is revealing not just who the candidates are conservative or not, but even who are conservative or not here on FR.
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That is so true, I noticed the same thing.


411 posted on 09/24/2011 4:37:43 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Retired Greyhound

From the article......

“These Christie supporters note that significant GOP support has remained on the sidelines of the primary fight.”

Hint: They’re waiting for Sarah Palin to declare.....not Christie, or anyone else like him....


412 posted on 09/24/2011 4:44:50 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“That’s all I need to hate him....”

This nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Those principles afforded us a vision of freedom as a human right given to all humans by God. It was precisely because of this that we (overall) grew and prospered. Hate was NOT a part of that call. I heartily encourage you to go back and study what our Founding Fathers had to say about this. It is very inspiring....and eye-opening. Liberals don’t want to discuss (much less study) this. I hope you will...

Personally, I am repenting of falling short of God’s great gift to us (this nation) and asking Him to have mercy and heal us...so that we can Be and DO what He has called us to Think of the Light on the hill that Reagan so often referred to).

I sincerely wish you well.

;-)


413 posted on 09/24/2011 4:54:11 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: rwfromkansas

Take it from someone who is nearly twice your age, it doesn’t get any easier to “get in shape” the older you get. While it’s true that it’s never too late to start, the younger you are, the easier and quicker the results.


414 posted on 09/24/2011 5:05:28 PM PDT by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us.)
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To: Retired Greyhound; All

“Ann Coulter must be thrilled.”

Actually I think Coulter “loves” Romney. I think her life’s ambition is to be one of his plural wives.


415 posted on 09/24/2011 5:16:06 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

IF he jumps in this is really bad for mittens.


416 posted on 09/24/2011 5:17:23 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Astronaut
If Ronald Reagan himself came back from the dead and announced he was running, there would be people calling him a RINO.

Equine feces.

I am getting sick of the search for the “perfect” conservative that destroys our candidates while the Muslim Marxist sits back and laughs.

Perhaps you should consult the Gipper himself:

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals of our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all." - Ronald Reagan

Don't let the truth bother you a bit. My experiences of electing RINOS have been disastrous, whether Bush, Arnold, or Nixon. Every one left conservatism in a weaker position than when he took office.

Every candidate is flawed. Instead of attacking each other and giving Hussein Obama fodder for his own ads, they should be attacking the Muslim Marxist non-stop.

And if the Marxist doesn't run and a "moderate" Hillary steps in? Here is the point: We need to be running against "socialist policies" not Obama, whether the presidency, governorships, or representative offices. It doesn't matter whether that candidate wears a Democrat or Republican label. The problem is the policies and the consequences therewith. That's why we don't elect RINOS, because their "socialist light" policies don't work and conservatives get the blame.

417 posted on 09/24/2011 5:36:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: SumProVita
Actually, I take that to mean that you have nothing.

Take it the way it was written, you simply just don't know! Either you aren't paying attention or you just don't get it.
418 posted on 09/24/2011 8:08:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: caww
Verse was spoken to Israel...just for clarity

WOW! You think God's Way on how to heal one's land is different for other nations? There is only One Way, One Truth, One Life.

but I also know He is also a God of Justice and our nation deserves this for how we have misaligned our priorities, allowed and encouraged corruption and all manner of evils i...

And His wrath is coming for them but not until His Body/Church is taken out first for His children are not subject to His wrath.

The ONLY power we have is at the ballot box

That's a godless statement and being HS filled I would never agree to it!

This primary election and vetting of candidates is revealing not just who the candidates are conservative or not, but even who are conservative or not here on FR.

No it's not. For example, where is the vetting of Mitt or Cain?

Our sin is not that we have not sought God..

Wrong! I'm not agreeing with that either because God reigns in my life, I seek Him for everything. Like I said, His wrath is coming and His children are not subject to it. If you see yourself as part of 'our' so be it. I speak for myself.
419 posted on 09/24/2011 8:46:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SumProVita
Have you read Peter Marshall's The Light And The Glory?

Cheers!

420 posted on 09/24/2011 8:48:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Christie at this point I don’t care what your views are. Lose the weight first.


421 posted on 09/24/2011 9:34:08 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: Gondring

Chris Christie is openly pro-life, and has governed as a pro-life governor, so I would bet that your disagreements with him on abortion are on the margins.


422 posted on 09/24/2011 11:30:03 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: presently no screen name

“...you simply just don’t know...”

What I know is that liberals despise Ann Coulter.

;-/


423 posted on 09/25/2011 4:19:18 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: grey_whiskers

I’ve heard some good things about this book though I have not personally read it. At the beginning of my teaching career, history was one of the subjects that I taught. It was astounding to me to watch the steady progression in the publishing of textbooks to revise a great deal of that history. I believe that if parents sat down and read some of the textbooks being used by their children today....that they would be equally astounded.

It is no wonder, no accident, that students today have little or no understanding of the history and LIGHT of this nation.

Are you familiar with William Federer’s *America’s God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations?*


424 posted on 09/25/2011 4:48:13 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Astronaut

Imagine having a man of Christie’s bullying forcefulness telling conservatives to SHUT UP about sharia, to SHUT UP about stopping the ground zero mosque, to GROW UP and stop opposing government subsidies for “green” energy, to GROW UP and stop demanding gun rights. The man is conservatives’ worst nightmare, yet they are lusting for him to become president.


425 posted on 09/25/2011 5:14:21 AM PDT by antivenom (visit SBPDL.com and at least read what you and the liberal media are too afraid to say)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Stay in New Jersey fatso! Washington is larded with enough fat heads already.


426 posted on 09/25/2011 5:16:25 AM PDT by IbJensen (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.)
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To: presently no screen name

Imagine having a man of Christie’s bullying forcefulness telling conservatives to SHUT UP about sharia, to SHUT UP about stopping the ground zero mosque, to GROW UP and stop opposing government subsidies for “green” energy, to GROW UP and stop demanding gun rights. The man is conservatives’ worst nightmare, yet they are lusting for him to become president.


427 posted on 09/25/2011 5:16:33 AM PDT by antivenom (visit SBPDL.com and at least read what you and the liberal media are too afraid to say)
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To: antivenom

This breathless excitement over Christie doesn’t make Ann Coulter look quite as intelligent as I’ve thought she was.


428 posted on 09/25/2011 5:17:57 AM PDT by IbJensen (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.)
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To: MEG33

America is DYING to hear a plan...Cain has the 999...and he is taking each step to target his audience with a plan...not soundbites and/or petty squabbles, over your book said...shit we are seeing between Perry and Mitt...now...if NEWT or Palin were to come out with a PLAN...they would rocket forward as well....


429 posted on 09/25/2011 5:22:37 AM PDT by antivenom (visit SBPDL.com and at least read what you and the liberal media are too afraid to say)
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To: IbJensen

Bullies admire bullies...

I’ll bet secretly James Carville admires Ann Coulter and Gov. Christie too....


430 posted on 09/25/2011 5:28:39 AM PDT by antivenom (visit SBPDL.com and at least read what you and the liberal media are too afraid to say)
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To: presently no screen name

PSN...my statements were not about peoples faith who have convictions....it was and is about those who do not and those who sit on the fence of what reality is today.... and the current reality of the world we live in now....

This isn’t about God coming for his own...this is about an election of which he asks our co-operation. This is about and in these next months ahead of choosing a candidate.

And no it is not a Godless statmenet to say the only power we have is at the Ballot Box.....that is the order of which we elect our candidates. If there is any other power it would be for Gods intervention and His power to change this equation. But he gives free-will for men to choose.

Your’ve not been paying attention if you have not observed those being vetted here and in the public sector. Of course they are all being vetted.....

I am a Christian and have no doubt that God has given man the freedom to elect our candidates....but this also includes those who are not Christian...and any in between. This requires our co-operation to investigate and seek the best for that office....not just hang around the edges and expect God to do what He has assigned us to do.


431 posted on 09/25/2011 5:50:51 AM PDT by caww
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Here we go again. When is Bill Kristol going to be convinced that Ryan and Christie are NOT running?


432 posted on 09/25/2011 6:05:16 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: SumProVita
No, but I'll add it to my list of "bucket books."

Cheers!

433 posted on 09/25/2011 6:14:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Hi. Haven’t posted in...years...and I like your name. I’d be interested big big in Christie. One, he was elected in New Jersey, he talks like a working Joe, and I keep reading these asinine polls that say no one can beat the obama-meister.

(years ago, my seabag was lost on greyhound. when I got the insurance check from them, it was $32601...I called to inquire, as my claim was for less, $200-some, pricey flannel and holy blue jeans...talked w/the prezz...he asked me, kindly, to write “void” on that and send it to Des Moines. I did. Got the right amount a couple weeks later. He explained that the 32601 was my zip. Someone goofed. )

onward and upward.


434 posted on 09/25/2011 8:55:15 AM PDT by Retch_Sweeney (Men to whom God is dead worship one another...Harry Crews)
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To: Retired Greyhound

President Elect: “To protect and defend the ConstitutioAAAAAAAaaaaaaagh”

{thud}

Chief Justice: Does anybody here know CPR?

Yeah, that’s gonna work out great.


435 posted on 09/25/2011 3:36:01 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: SumProVita

Politicians who surround themselves with armed security yet do not allow citizens to do the same deserve all of the contempt possible.


436 posted on 09/25/2011 5:48:31 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: nhwingut

Is that guy really Christie?

Please, Mr. Christie. for the sake of you, your family, NJ, and possibly the nation, make an effort to lose some weight.


437 posted on 09/25/2011 9:51:03 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: shield

The press is saying this am that Christie is still a no go.

(That’s what they are saying anyways....)


438 posted on 09/26/2011 5:47:11 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: IbJensen
Stay in New Jersey fatso! Washington is larded with enough fat heads already.
I agree.

I am a conservative living in NJ and I believe that Christie should stay NJ Gov where he can do some good, rather than try for US Prez, where he could only do great harm.

439 posted on 09/26/2011 6:46:43 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: samtheman

Who do you like??


440 posted on 09/26/2011 6:47:56 AM PDT by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! (Vote for Newt, Mitt, Cain or Santorum))
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To: All; mickie; flaglady47
I wouldn't vote for ANYONE running for the presidency from the original thirteen colonies, the Cradle of Democracy...er, oops, um....the Rocking Chair of Liberalism, Socialism and Snobbism....and the wholly-owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party.

Leni

441 posted on 09/26/2011 6:58:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: Retired Greyhound

What is it with Coulter?


442 posted on 09/26/2011 7:56:08 AM PDT by juliej
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To: Fawn

I still like Perry, though I am greatly disappointed in his debate performances to date.

I am still hoping he can recover.

I also like Palin, though I’m not sure she can win, and I’m not sure she thinks she can win. But I will probably support her if she gets in.

I really looked at Perry as the answer to our problems but he has done very poorly out of the gate.

We’ll see.


443 posted on 09/26/2011 8:17:12 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: presently no screen name

“He’s for the mosque at Ground Zero and for gun control and the list goes on! He put a muslim judge in NJ court system because he’s his friend and known him for many years.”

Amen to all of that. Perry’s problem is that he’s pro-amnesty. Christie’s problem is that he’s pro-Muslim. That is UNACCEPTABLE in today’s political environment. Plus he’s enormously fat. He needs to let go of this idea of a candidacy. If he pursues it, then he needs to choose an excellent VP, since someone in his condition is a ticking time bomb.


444 posted on 09/26/2011 8:37:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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