Skip to comments.Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble
Posted on 09/24/2011 5:24:39 PM PDT by iowamark
From the bottom of the polls to the top of the pack, businessman Herman Cain won the Republican Party of Floridas nationally watched presidential straw poll Saturday in a sign that frontrunner Rick Perry is in deep trouble.
Cains victory with 37 percent of the vote was a major defeat for Perry, the frontrunner in Florida and national polls, who garnered only 15 percent after wooing the nearly 3,000 party faithful with a free breakfast and mailers.
The vote also showed how soft Republican support is for Mitt Romney, who came in third with 14 percent. Unlike Perry, though, he avoided schmoozing the GOP voters, called delegates.
"Folks, this is what you call momentum," Cain, the former CEO of Godfathers Pizza, said in a video message from his campaign bus. "The Herman Cain train is picking up steam."
That means more national media attention, heightened standing in the race and access to more fundraisers.
The straw poll is a mock election and doesnt necessarily reflect the sentiment of the voters at large. In past years, it has predicted the partys national nominee, but that streak could be in jeopardy because even some Cain voters had doubts about whether he was ready to be the partys nominee.
Still, the vote is a major indication of how badly damaged Perry was by a poor debate performance Thursday when he fumbled answers and failed to give specifics.
Many straw poll voters were especially dissatisfied by the answers Perry gave over his moderate immigration position, the Ponzi scheme of Social Security and his plan to inoculate girls from human papillomavirus.
I came in thinking Rick Perry, said Tommy Langford,a Gilchrist County commissioner who voted for Cain. I didnt like the debate at all. I really thought Perry lost it. Mitt Romney called him on immigration. He said we have to take care of them. Not if theyre illegal, we dont.
Another big loser: Michele Bachmann, who came in last place. Once a top-tier candidate who won the Iowa straw poll, she has fallen from sight in the debates where she, too, fails to give specifics, excite delegates here or even reach out to them.
Perry issued a written statement congratulating Cain, saying the vote underscored the fact that the conservative message of job creation, fiscal responsibility and limited government is gaining momentum.
Floridians and voters nationally want a candidate who is clear on the issues and talks honestly about the future, Perry said, not someone who takes multiple sides of an issue and changes views every election season. Todays vote demonstrates that Floridians are energized and ready to help get America working again.
Pinellas County delegate Rachelle Warmouth said that, if Perry lost, it wouldnt be the end of his campaign. But when or lose, the debate performance and the effect its having on party loyalists are a call to step up his game.
Hell have to have a strong recovery, she said. He needs to focus on his message.
Warmouths friend, Eileen Blackmer, agreed: He needs to work on the three Cs: Be clear, be concise, be complete.
Lee County delegate Dane Eagle said hes for Romney. He likes the candidates message and polish on stage. And he fears that President Obama would walk all over Perry in debates.
Thats what Obama does, Eagle said. He debates.
St. Johns County delegate Randy Covington said he arrived in Orlando ready to vote for Perry, but the debate "shattered" that plan. Covington decided to support Cain after the businessman"s rousing speech on Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. That event was wedged in between the partys Presidency 5 Thursday debate and Saturday straw poll.
But Convington said he wasnt sure if Cain would or should be the nominee. He said the primary shouldnt be a two-man race.
"We need this process to go on," Covington said.
Gov. Rick Scott, who announced the results from the Orange County Convention Center stage, said the candidates need to take very seriously whatever the results are.
"It shows you something. Florida is important," Scott said from the Orange County Convention Center stage. "It pays to be here."
In every single debate so far, Cain is the only one that has stood up there and offered a solid plan. The rest of them have stood there and flapped their lips and offered platitudes.
Perry is done. Anyone who saw that debate (6 million) will never vote for Perry. His answer on “no heart” was Dukakis like. He is done.
Excellent point! Thanks for posting it!
A shame Rudy didn't win. Just think of the money we'd have saved if both the President and First Lady were consolidated into one person.
Michelle Obama'$ killing u$
Because Perry was favored to win. He tried. Romney didn’t put in a big effort. Florida is South. Perry can’t even win in the South. He is done!!!!
Gonna take yer ball and run home, huh?
Hear ya buddy. I will not waste my time with liberal, moderate, or hit-and-miss-conservative Prez candidates. Am running a campaign for state senate, we are 2 seats from having both the guv and both houses here in Iowa and we can start getting some stuff done.
The states are important to defeating the Dems because:
1) Voter ID, getting rid of same day registration, etc. cuts out alot of voter fraud.
2) Limiting or eliminating collective bargaining, and the state govt getting out of collecting union dues for public employees cuts into the union dues cash flow to the DNC.
It’s thru the states we can cut the Dems off at the knees.
Not my idea originally.
Remember Cain hit some early homeruns. Someone even posted a recycled McCain / Palin bumper sticker image on FR with the “Mc” crossed out with lipstick I think. :D
I never really took him serious then, even though I really liked what he said.
I’m thinking things are different. Cain just became an honest to good, contender today.
He skipped it? That means he didnt expect to win.
Sarah’s decision to wait is looking smarter and smarter. Let the other front runners kick their own butts. She (and hopefully Cain as her running mate) can run against 0bama instead of other candidates who are losing momentum and support.
You sir, may have just coined Mr. Cain's signature campaign slogan. I love it!
No, the only story here is that unlike Romneycare, Perry spent a ton of money and put in the effort to win this poll, and lost badly.
he’s counting on the non republicans to get him the nominee like Mc Cain did or the socially liberal elitist half baked pretend conservatives up in the north east
Cain Eviscerates, Utterly Destroys, Crashes, Kills, Annihilates, Demolishes, Eradicates, Exterminates, Extirpates and completely Wipes Out Perry and Romney........ as well as everyone else on board.
Perry and Romney were seen holding hands and crying their eyes out.
Off in the distance Obama could be heard screaming, “But I’m Black, I won, I’m beautiful and damn it— I AM BLACK!!!”
“If you add Perry and Mitts percentages, they combined barely beat Cain. That is pathetic for both of them.”
Mtyh Romney 14%
15 + 14 = 29; 29 is less then 37 by 8 points.....
>>> Sarahs my #1, Cain #2. If Sarah doesnt jump in Im on the Cain Train.
I’ve been thinking for quite a while that Palin is more interested in the VP slot.... but strategically speaking, sitting out is not a very smart way to get it...
Unless of course her shoulder has already been tapped... (Cain maybe?)
From what I’ve seen, Cain has the fire in his belly.
The two biggest lessons for me in ‘08 was 1) Huck organizing thru the churches in Iowa right under everyone’s noses to win the caucus, and 2) McCain taking the whole shooting match after literally being dead in the water just a few months earlier. It taught me that conventional wisdom is often idiotic and to never get complacent again about the nomination process.
I think this one’s going to have alot of twists/turns/surprises too.
“Perry in deep trouble”... they forgot to add “Romney needs to start packing for home”.
Anyone else see the obvious illogical slant in this statement?
We are having a race. Explain to me how the one that is in the lead, that is to say “ahead” of everyone else, is the one that is in deep trouble?
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But he’s not BLACK. He’s mulatto...only HALF black.
Must be hard for pure blacks to vote for a half white guy
since we know how racist they can be.
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Ah thank you!
Yep and Conservatives are going to have to fight like heck to win this one. 0 and the Progressives are not going to go without a fight. Thing look good now but it is a very long way to election day.
You should include these two links
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Herman Cains Twitter
There is nothing stunning about this. We are in the era of anti-incumbency. So people are going to vote for outsiders.
Excellent point and then add to it the typical Chamber crowd argument that roofing in the hot sun, brick-laying,dish-washers,etc will not be done by the Americans so if we follow Perry’s idea of providing instate tuition plus grant monies who the h*ll will they have to do these jobs if EVERYBODY IS DESERVING OF A COLLEGE EDUCATION? We need to rethink this silly mantra in this country and get Americans back to work with a fair wage for manuel skill sets.
Yes !!! Congrats !
Obama’s white half ancestors were slave owners
I do like Herman Cain. While I’m not too excited about Rick Perry, I could definitely vote for Cain.
There is always hope. Believe you me the Party Establishment and the Media will do their best to crush it in the months ahead.
Oooh, that’s gotta smart!
Sounds good at first, but makes NO sense at all.
As Cain has said. We already have a path to citizenship. It's called legal immigration.
Yes we Cain !
How many electoral votes would Alaska be able to deliver?
“Still is time for Perry to right his ship. Question remains whether I WANT him to. (I guess I just have no heart. /sarc”
You don’t want him to. Perry WILL NOT “come to Jesus” on immigration. He is too bull headed. Plus.. He has $$$$ masters
that expect a free flow of cheap labor.
Hey Perry.... Adios Mofo!
I’m almost as excited I was when Reagan was vying for the nomination . I can feel it in my bones as I type .
thats true, Herman has a great record of accomplishment.
Herman Cain — America’s CEO
People call conservative racists. What will the liberals and dimocrats say if Mr. Cain is the candidate for the republican party. Oh, right, they will lable him an “Uncle Tom.” That is usually their message when a black man is a conservative. They FORGET that Martin L. King was a republican. They simply forget that. They say, that today, King would be a dimocrat. I wonder.
I don’t know whether Mr. Cain is electable. Setting aside that issue, in my eyes, on qualificatons alone, he is the best of the GOP bunch. What I like about him the most is his ability to get down to our level, look us in the eyes, and tell us what the problems are and what he is going to do about it. Even if he is proven wrong, at least he takes a stand and shows leadership.
I’d put that one on my car......love it...
Cain vs Unable
2012’s new slogan
Climb aboard, plenty of room on the Cain Train.