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Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll in stunning victory; Rick Perry in deep trouble
Miami Herald ^ | 09\24\2011 | Marc Caputo and Alex Leary

Posted on 09/24/2011 5:24:39 PM PDT by iowamark

From the bottom of the polls to the top of the pack, businessman Herman Cain won the Republican Party of Florida’s nationally watched presidential straw poll Saturday in a sign that frontrunner Rick Perry is in deep trouble.

Cain’s victory with 37 percent of the vote was a major defeat for Perry, the frontrunner in Florida and national polls, who garnered only 15 percent after wooing the nearly 3,000 party faithful with a free breakfast and mailers.

The vote also showed how soft Republican support is for Mitt Romney, who came in third with 14 percent. Unlike Perry, though, he avoided schmoozing the GOP voters, called delegates.

"Folks, this is what you call momentum," Cain, the former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, said in a video message from his campaign bus. "The Herman Cain train is picking up steam."

That means more national media attention, heightened standing in the race and access to more fundraisers.

The straw poll is a mock election and doesn’t necessarily reflect the sentiment of the voters at large. In past years, it has predicted the party’s national nominee, but that streak could be in jeopardy because even some Cain voters had doubts about whether he was ready to be the party’s nominee.

Still, the vote is a major indication of how badly damaged Perry was by a poor debate performance Thursday when he fumbled answers and failed to give specifics.

Many straw poll voters were especially dissatisfied by the answers Perry gave over his moderate immigration position, the “Ponzi scheme” of Social Security and his plan to inoculate girls from human papillomavirus.

“I came in thinking Rick Perry,” said Tommy Langford,a Gilchrist County commissioner who voted for Cain. “I didn’t like the debate at all. I really thought Perry lost it. Mitt Romney called him on immigration. He said we have to take care of them. Not if they’re illegal, we don’t.”

Another big loser: Michele Bachmann, who came in last place. Once a top-tier candidate who won the Iowa straw poll, she has fallen from sight in the debates where she, too, fails to give specifics, excite delegates here or even reach out to them.

Perry issued a written statement congratulating Cain, saying the vote underscored the fact that the conservative message of job creation, fiscal responsibility and limited government is gaining momentum.

“Floridians and voters nationally want a candidate who is clear on the issues and talks honestly about the future,” Perry said, “not someone who takes multiple sides of an issue and changes views every election season. Today’s vote demonstrates that Floridians are energized and ready to help get America working again.”

Pinellas County delegate Rachelle Warmouth said that, if Perry lost, it wouldn’t be the end of his campaign. But when or lose, the debate performance and the effect it’s having on party loyalists are a call to step up his game.

“He’ll have to have a strong recovery,” she said. “He needs to focus on his message.”

Warmouth’s friend, Eileen Blackmer, agreed: “He needs to work on the three C’s: Be clear, be concise, be complete.”

Lee County delegate Dane Eagle said he’s for Romney. He likes the candidate’s message and polish on stage. And he fears that President Obama would walk all over Perry in debates.

“That’s what Obama does,” Eagle said. “He debates.”

St. Johns County delegate Randy Covington said he arrived in Orlando ready to vote for Perry, but the debate "shattered" that plan. Covington decided to support Cain after the businessman"s rousing speech on Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. That event was wedged in between the party’s Presidency 5 Thursday debate and Saturday straw poll.

But Convington said he wasn’t sure if Cain would or should be the nominee. He said the primary shouldn’t be a two-man race.

"We need this process to go on," Covington said.

Gov. Rick Scott, who announced the results from the Orange County Convention Center stage, said the candidates “need to take very seriously whatever the results are.”

"It shows you something. Florida is important," Scott said from the Orange County Convention Center stage. "It pays to be here."


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To: iowamark

In every single debate so far, Cain is the only one that has stood up there and offered a solid plan. The rest of them have stood there and flapped their lips and offered platitudes.

Go Cain!


51 posted on 09/24/2011 5:51:41 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Perry is done. Anyone who saw that debate (6 million) will never vote for Perry. His answer on “no heart” was Dukakis like. He is done.


52 posted on 09/24/2011 5:51:57 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: xzins
this shows us why we should not let non republicans vote in our primaries . Letting those non republicans vote will go to Romney and that is where he counts on winning. Surely this is a big FU to Ricardo Perry and Romney and the pro homo , pro cross dressing freak liberal media. It shows race has nothing to do with the vote or how we think. It shows we are fed up of B/S from some who are very well polished. We want a guy or gal who knows what we want, and how to create jobs and has some balls who will not be too PC. It shows we want a proper full conservative not some wishy washy pretending conservative who is liberal on social issues and some what liberal on fiscal matters. There is not one thing I disagree with Cain unlike the others except Rick S and MB though I do think Newt can easily beat zero in a debate and knowledge or how the country is supposed to work and the history of us
53 posted on 09/24/2011 5:52:01 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: MNJohnnie
At this point in 2007 McCain was the one of the three bottom candidates and 0 was a virtual unknown. At that point "everyone knew" it was going to be "Hillary vrs Giuliani IN 2008.

Excellent point! Thanks for posting it!

A shame Rudy didn't win. Just think of the money we'd have saved if both the President and First Lady were consolidated into one person.

Michelle Obama'$ killing u$

54 posted on 09/24/2011 5:52:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: MNJohnnie

Because Perry was favored to win. He tried. Romney didn’t put in a big effort. Florida is South. Perry can’t even win in the South. He is done!!!!


55 posted on 09/24/2011 5:53:00 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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To: prisoner6

Gonna take yer ball and run home, huh?


56 posted on 09/24/2011 5:53:35 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: prisoner6

Hear ya buddy. I will not waste my time with liberal, moderate, or hit-and-miss-conservative Prez candidates. Am running a campaign for state senate, we are 2 seats from having both the guv and both houses here in Iowa and we can start getting some stuff done.

The states are important to defeating the Dems because:

1) Voter ID, getting rid of same day registration, etc. cuts out alot of voter fraud.

2) Limiting or eliminating collective bargaining, and the state govt getting out of collecting union dues for public employees cuts into the union dues cash flow to the DNC.

It’s thru the states we can cut the Dems off at the knees.


57 posted on 09/24/2011 5:53:42 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: mplsconservative

Not my idea originally.

Remember Cain hit some early homeruns. Someone even posted a recycled McCain / Palin bumper sticker image on FR with the “Mc” crossed out with lipstick I think. :D

I never really took him serious then, even though I really liked what he said.

I’m thinking things are different. Cain just became an honest to good, contender today.


58 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:04 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Ripliancum

He skipped it? That means he didnt expect to win.


59 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Sarah’s decision to wait is looking smarter and smarter. Let the other front runners kick their own butts. She (and hopefully Cain as her running mate) can run against 0bama instead of other candidates who are losing momentum and support.

Cindie


60 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:05 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: GeronL
Cain vs Unable

You sir, may have just coined Mr. Cain's signature campaign slogan. I love it!

61 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:08 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

No, the only story here is that unlike Romneycare, Perry spent a ton of money and put in the effort to win this poll, and lost badly.


62 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:18 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Ripliancum

he’s counting on the non republicans to get him the nominee like Mc Cain did or the socially liberal elitist half baked pretend conservatives up in the north east


63 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:27 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: iowamark

Cain Eviscerates, Utterly Destroys, Crashes, Kills, Annihilates, Demolishes, Eradicates, Exterminates, Extirpates and completely Wipes Out Perry and Romney........ as well as everyone else on board.

Perry and Romney were seen holding hands and crying their eyes out.

Off in the distance Obama could be heard screaming, “But I’m Black, I won, I’m beautiful and damn it— I AM BLACK!!!”


64 posted on 09/24/2011 5:54:51 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: dirtboy

“If you add Perry and Mitt’s percentages, they combined barely beat Cain. That is pathetic for both of them.”

Cain 37%

Mtyh Romney 14%
Perry 15%

15 + 14 = 29; 29 is less then 37 by 8 points.....


65 posted on 09/24/2011 5:55:28 PM PDT by stockpirate ("A people get the leaders they deserve......")
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To: Free Vulcan

>>> Sarah’s my #1, Cain #2. If Sarah doesn’t jump in I’m on the Cain Train.

I’ve been thinking for quite a while that Palin is more interested in the VP slot.... but strategically speaking, sitting out is not a very smart way to get it...

Unless of course her shoulder has already been tapped... (Cain maybe?)


66 posted on 09/24/2011 5:57:14 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: freeangel

From what I’ve seen, Cain has the fire in his belly.


67 posted on 09/24/2011 5:58:32 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: MNJohnnie

The two biggest lessons for me in ‘08 was 1) Huck organizing thru the churches in Iowa right under everyone’s noses to win the caucus, and 2) McCain taking the whole shooting match after literally being dead in the water just a few months earlier. It taught me that conventional wisdom is often idiotic and to never get complacent again about the nomination process.

I think this one’s going to have alot of twists/turns/surprises too.


68 posted on 09/24/2011 5:59:07 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: mplsconservative

“Perry in deep trouble”... they forgot to add “Romney needs to start packing for home”.


69 posted on 09/24/2011 5:59:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: iowamark
“frontrunner Rick Perry is in deep trouble. “


Anyone else see the obvious illogical slant in this statement?

We are having a race. Explain to me how the one that is in the lead, that is to say “ahead” of everyone else, is the one that is in deep trouble?

70 posted on 09/24/2011 6:00:53 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: 4Liberty

Well said!


71 posted on 09/24/2011 6:00:57 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: taraytarah; DarthVader; justsaynomore; Prov3456; paul revere is riding; Politicalmom; ...

FRmail me to get on or off the Herman Cain ping list

Herman Cain for President

Join Team Cain - Become An ACTIVE Supporter-- FRMail Me


72 posted on 09/24/2011 6:01:03 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Gator113

But he’s not BLACK. He’s mulatto...only HALF black.

Must be hard for pure blacks to vote for a half white guy
since we know how racist they can be.


73 posted on 09/24/2011 6:01:52 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: kingattax

Could I please be added to your ping list?

Thank you...


74 posted on 09/24/2011 6:01:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: GoMonster

Ah thank you!


75 posted on 09/24/2011 6:02:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Free Vulcan

Yep and Conservatives are going to have to fight like heck to win this one. 0 and the Progressives are not going to go without a fight. Thing look good now but it is a very long way to election day.


76 posted on 09/24/2011 6:04:02 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: kingattax

You should include these two links

Herman Cain Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/THEHermanCain

Herman Cain’s Twitter

http://twitter.com/THEHermanCain


77 posted on 09/24/2011 6:05:18 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: iowamark

There is nothing stunning about this. We are in the era of anti-incumbency. So people are going to vote for outsiders.


78 posted on 09/24/2011 6:06:00 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: tsowellfan

Excellent point and then add to it the typical Chamber crowd argument that roofing in the hot sun, brick-laying,dish-washers,etc will not be done by the Americans so if we follow Perry’s idea of providing instate tuition plus grant monies who the h*ll will they have to do these jobs if EVERYBODY IS DESERVING OF A COLLEGE EDUCATION? We need to rethink this silly mantra in this country and get Americans back to work with a fair wage for manuel skill sets.


79 posted on 09/24/2011 6:06:20 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: kingattax

Yes !!! Congrats !


80 posted on 09/24/2011 6:06:27 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Obama’s white half ancestors were slave owners


81 posted on 09/24/2011 6:06:27 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: iowamark

I do like Herman Cain. While I’m not too excited about Rick Perry, I could definitely vote for Cain.


82 posted on 09/24/2011 6:07:00 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: umgud
Maybe there is still hope.

There is always hope. Believe you me the Party Establishment and the Media will do their best to crush it in the months ahead.

83 posted on 09/24/2011 6:07:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: tsowellfan

thanks


84 posted on 09/24/2011 6:07:27 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: tsowellfan

Oooh, that’s gotta smart!


85 posted on 09/24/2011 6:07:38 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: kingattax
The msm always refers to Herman Cain as "former pizza executive" or "former Godfather Pizza CEO, but that's only a drop in the bucket of his many outstanding accomplishments.
86 posted on 09/24/2011 6:08:13 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Safrguns
You continue to speculate on Palin as VP for Cain.

Sounds good at first, but makes NO sense at all.

87 posted on 09/24/2011 6:08:53 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: magna carta
It's a modern day version of legalized slavery. It is they that have NO heart.

As Cain has said. We already have a path to citizenship. It's called legal immigration.

88 posted on 09/24/2011 6:09:39 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mplsconservative

Yes we Cain !


89 posted on 09/24/2011 6:10:00 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: diogenes ghost
You continue to speculate on Palin as VP for Cain.

How many electoral votes would Alaska be able to deliver?

90 posted on 09/24/2011 6:10:54 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: pogo101

“Still is time for Perry to right his ship. Question remains whether I WANT him to. (I guess I just have no heart. /sarc”
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

You don’t want him to. Perry WILL NOT “come to Jesus” on immigration. He is too bull headed. Plus.. He has $$$$ masters
that expect a free flow of cheap labor.

Hey Perry.... Adios Mofo!


91 posted on 09/24/2011 6:11:15 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: iowamark
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92 posted on 09/24/2011 6:11:19 PM PDT by barmag25 (How many pea's we gotta eat to get out of this mess?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I’m almost as excited I was when Reagan was vying for the nomination . I can feel it in my bones as I type .


93 posted on 09/24/2011 6:11:54 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: diogenes ghost
Would certainly simplify the bumper stickers:

McCain / Palin 2012

:D

94 posted on 09/24/2011 6:13:03 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: GAgal

thats true, Herman has a great record of accomplishment.

Herman Cain — America’s CEO


95 posted on 09/24/2011 6:13:03 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Free Vulcan

People call conservative racists. What will the liberals and dimocrats say if Mr. Cain is the candidate for the republican party. Oh, right, they will lable him an “Uncle Tom.” That is usually their message when a black man is a conservative. They FORGET that Martin L. King was a republican. They simply forget that. They say, that today, King would be a dimocrat. I wonder.


96 posted on 09/24/2011 6:13:28 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: iowamark

I don’t know whether Mr. Cain is electable. Setting aside that issue, in my eyes, on qualificatons alone, he is the best of the GOP bunch. What I like about him the most is his ability to get down to our level, look us in the eyes, and tell us what the problems are and what he is going to do about it. Even if he is proven wrong, at least he takes a stand and shows leadership.


97 posted on 09/24/2011 6:13:29 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: barmag25

I’d put that one on my car......love it...


98 posted on 09/24/2011 6:13:28 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: GeronL

Cain vs Unable

2012’s new slogan


99 posted on 09/24/2011 6:13:47 PM PDT by barmag25 (How many pea's we gotta eat to get out of this mess?)
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To: iowamark

Climb aboard, plenty of room on the Cain Train.


100 posted on 09/24/2011 6:15:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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