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Property values fall, yet taxes go up
ABC Local ^ | 9/23/11 | Charles Thomas

Posted on 09/25/2011 7:15:52 AM PDT by Libloather

Property values fall, yet taxes go up
Charles Thomas
Friday, September 23, 2011

(CHICAGO) (WLS) -- Cook County property tax bills will go out next month, and homeowners will be asked to pay more for having less.

Even though most property values have dropped over the past three years, most property tax bills will be going up again.

Falling property values and rising property taxes have turned the American dream for many into a nightmare in virtually every county in the state.

Nowhere in Cook County have home prices fallen more dramatically than in the northern and northwestern suburbs -- anywhere from 10 to 14 percent since houses there were last assessed.

Skokie homeowner Jill Dillard says any property tax increase will be difficult to accept.

"When your house isn't worth as much as it was but yet you have to pay more in taxes, it just doesn't seem right," said Dillard.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicago; property; taxes; value
EVERYONE is rich - in Obamaland! Whoohoo!
1 posted on 09/25/2011 7:16:02 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

My town did similar.

Our homes all dropped about $100,000 in value since last town valuation (2006). My neighbors took solace, thinking they would have a reduced property tax bill. I LMAO.

And of course the town simply raised the rate per thousand to get same (or more) revenue.

You don’t think the hacks would ever make cuts?


2 posted on 09/25/2011 7:20:32 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Libloather

A couple years ago, here in Summit County, Ohio, they dropped the value of my house byb$1,500,,,, and raised the value of my lot by $10,000.


3 posted on 09/25/2011 7:21:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Libloather

That happened to us here in Jefferson Parish, LA. Our local newspaper had a big headline a few weeks ago saying that property values were at 2004 levels, yet our property tax bill that we received shortly thereafter had gone up.


4 posted on 09/25/2011 7:23:35 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Libloather

And again I ask, will there ever be a day when the multitude of lazy, apathetic, ignorant, brain-dead citizenry of this country figure out that liberals are the cause of this continuing calamity?!


5 posted on 09/25/2011 7:25:26 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: nhwingut
And of course the town simply raised the rate per thousand to get same (or more) revenue.

And you better cough up the loot or risk losing the house. Not to worry - it's all for the common good.

6 posted on 09/25/2011 7:27:43 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: nhwingut
And of course the town simply raised the rate per thousand to get same (or more) revenue.

G-d forbid they take it out of the public school budget...

7 posted on 09/25/2011 7:27:44 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Libloather
I'm a taxpayer. I'm a contributor to the government and the schools, and all that other stuff. Those costs don't change for the government based on the housing market.

Ah naivte is a wonderful thing to watch. Of course the costs for government services go up when there is the expectation that more money is available. That is how it works, and that is why the government is such a lousy customer on behalf of the public. The guys in charge were put in charge to keep increasing the take and the dole out to those on the take. It is everywhere in every transaction every government engages in. And now the jig is up because we ran out of money 8 years ago, and now have run out our credit line as well.

8 posted on 09/25/2011 7:29:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Libloather

Chicago elects democrats. They are getting what they deserve.

Unfortunately, Pima County (where I live) elects democrats too...but many of the democrats don’t own property.


9 posted on 09/25/2011 7:33:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Libloather

Since the long-term Obamugabe plan is to turn the government into the landlord, this makes abundant sense. A small part of the people won’t be able to pay the tax, then there will be a lien, etc. with the property finally seized.

Maybe a large corporation or union will then administer the properties —some entity that is backer of The System.

This is all about transferring private wealth into public coffers —witness GE, GM. etc.

Same deal.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 7:41:23 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Libloather

EVERYONE is rich - in Obamaland! Whoohoo!
Yea, how’s that hope and change crap working out for you?


11 posted on 09/25/2011 7:43:44 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: Libloather

Republicans are doing the same thing all over the country. When it comes to the greed of govt there are no political parties. There are only grasping corrupt politicians no matter what names they call themselves.


12 posted on 09/25/2011 7:44:50 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good a blaster kid.)
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To: Mr Rogers

We are in Maricopa. Our property taxes did go down this year.


13 posted on 09/25/2011 7:47:32 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Libloather

there is no limit to the greed of public servants.

public parasites would be more accurate.


14 posted on 09/25/2011 7:47:37 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Common Sense 101

Who is John Galt?


15 posted on 09/25/2011 7:49:39 AM PDT by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: gaijin
In may ways that is close to what happened in the Roman Empire starting in the 2nd - 3rd century. Eventually most could not afford land except the politically connected. So they sold to the politically connect in order to still work on it. Its how serfdom evolved into the middle ages. People eventually became inseparably tided to the land that there ancestors once owned or worked.
16 posted on 09/25/2011 7:56:41 AM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: nhwingut

Yep. And the real icing on the cake is that they figure values will go backup and they can keep the higher rates.

If values go back up, you will get doubly reamed out.


17 posted on 09/25/2011 7:58:31 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Libloather

Here in Texas, both property values and taxes continue to rise. Every year, but one, of the past two decades my taxes have risen over 10+% (fuzzy math and rounding up over the “legal” limit). There hasn’t been a lull in construction here and more out of staters and illegals are moving in.


18 posted on 09/25/2011 8:00:33 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Libloather
There has to be a few more drops of blood in the turnip if O’Bungle and his cohorts just squeeze hard enough.
19 posted on 09/25/2011 8:02:33 AM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Actually, rates do tend to drop when values recover. However, the drop is never nearly as much as the original increase, so property taxes do in fact continue to rise indefinitely.


20 posted on 09/25/2011 8:04:12 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Libloather

This same controversy is huge here in Aiken County, SC.

Properties were recently revalued and many, many, tax payers are very upset. County officials have held three meeting with tax payers. All were filled to overflowing with pissed off people.

If you want to protest your assessment, you normally have 90 days to do it. The outcry is so overwhelming this time that officials have extended the protest period an additional 90 days.

http://www.aikenstandard.com/star_news/News-0915-REASSESSMENT
http://www.aikenstandard.com/local/0919-county-council-preview
http://www.aikenstandard.com/None/Edit-0825-EDITORIAL
http://www.aikenstandard.com/Editorial/0824-Garideau-column
http://www.aikenstandard.com/local/0823-reassessment-questions


21 posted on 09/25/2011 8:05:03 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Libloather

Imagine: Your stock price goes down, and your dividend goes UP.

YEAH RIGHT. But for Uncle Sam, that’s a reality.

Did a government program end up not working? In the private sector, you STOP that program. In the public sector that’s a reason to fund it MORE.


22 posted on 09/25/2011 8:05:57 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: nhwingut
In that same time period our home went from 340,000 down to 225,000, dropping another 24,000 this year. But the idiots in our very liberal county keep voting Yes on every bill with a tax increase in it. So our tax burden has changes very little.
23 posted on 09/25/2011 8:08:51 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (GO MAMA GRIZZLY!)
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To: Libloather

The reason it’s called “real estate” is that it used to be, literally, “property of the Crown.”

Because of property taxation, the modern situation is not that much different, except that the “Crown” is now “City Hall.”


24 posted on 09/25/2011 8:10:17 AM PDT by Erasmus (I love "The Raven," but then what do I know? I'm just a poetaster.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Mine went down this year, but there will be an election in Nov to try to raise the rates “for the children” again. It failed in a close vote in 2010, but the schools have rightly, I think, judged that in an off year, only those who want money for their kids will turn out to vote. If so, my taxes will go up next year...”for the children”.

I think $2500 on a 235K home is plenty, but I’m sure others will not. After all, if you believe what the schools are saying, this raise is all that stands between great schools and total collapse. The idea of looking for savings doesn’t seem to mean much to our schools here...


25 posted on 09/25/2011 8:10:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: nhwingut
You're lucky in that all you have to do is go to city hall to protest the increase in the mill levy.

Here in California we have to go to the state to try to change the law.

Fortunately in my county they allowed me to have my property reappraised (not required under Prop 13) so that I could pay a lower rate for a few years.

In the short run Californians have saved a lot from Prop 13, but in the long run more and more power has been given up to the state and taken away from local authorities.

26 posted on 09/25/2011 8:36:09 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: originalbuckeye

property taxes went down in florida too, course we do have an awesome governor


27 posted on 09/25/2011 8:41:20 AM PDT by jjw
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To: originalbuckeye

property taxes went down in florida too, course we do have an awesome governor


28 posted on 09/25/2011 8:41:30 AM PDT by jjw
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To: jjw
property taxes went down in florida too, course we do have an awesome governor

No slur on your gov, but your property taxes are county and local. Your valuation and millage rates are set by the local taxing authorities and the water management district.

When I left Florida in February of 06, Polk County raised rates by nearly 25%. As well as quadrupling the so called impact fees on new homes.

29 posted on 09/25/2011 8:47:16 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
property taxes went down in florida too, course we do have an awesome governor

No slur on your gov, but your property taxes are county and local. Your valuation and millage rates are set by the local taxing authorities and the water management district.

When I left Florida in February of 06, Polk County raised rates by nearly 25%. As well as quadrupling the so called impact fees on new homes.


on my tax bill there is a line item covering a fourth of my taxes called 'school - state', doesn't sound local to me

also there is something in the florida constitution that protects homesteaded homeowners that limits property tax increases to 3% a year
30 posted on 09/25/2011 8:56:39 AM PDT by jjw
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To: jjw
on my tax bill there is a line item covering a fourth of my taxes called 'school - state', doesn't sound local to me

also there is something in the florida constitution that protects homesteaded homeowners that limits property tax increases to 3% a year

The lion's share is still county and local.

The 3% limit is on increased valuation of your property. Not the millage rate.

Out of curiosity, pull out your property tax bills for the last 5 years and see what your assessed value has done. My expectation would be that it hasn't gone down to the same degree that your market value has. If it has gone down at all.

31 posted on 09/25/2011 9:05:37 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Scott signed a bill that caps the amount of property tax that the independent fiefdoms here in Florida called “Water Management Districts” can charge homeowners.

I think they were saying the bill would reduce property taxes by 30% for homeowners.


32 posted on 09/25/2011 9:21:40 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: Libloather

And because they’re liberals fleecing liberals, they just passively sit there and politely say ‘it doesn’t seem right’.

If it were conservatives doing this they’d be organizing riot squads and calling for resignations and recall drives.

They unfortunately deserve this, they elected leadership that said to solve our problems, we will greatly increase taxes on people and business, and greatly increase our borrowing to pay off certain debts, today.


33 posted on 09/25/2011 10:46:49 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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