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Sarah Palin Has Until Late December to Jump In, and Still Win
News Blaze ^ | 7/25/11 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 09/25/2011 7:52:21 PM PDT by Freepmanchew


As I watch the Republican presidential debates, I must admit that we have a great field of candidates running, and if the reports about New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie getting into the race are true, then things will only get more interesting. It is a great field of candidates because America is finally getting a chance to see how truly diverse the Republican party is. After all, take a look at the Democrat party. All you will find is a who's who of the anti-American, communist-reject society.

Although I must admit that there is one person missing from the debate stage, and her absence has left many wondering why. I do know that she is of the belief that times have changed, and that Obama and the Democrats are so toxic that she could enter the race as late as November, or even late December, and still be the one to beat. Recent polls taken of just the conservative base in the Republican party prove her right. She is still the one to beat, and that has the rest of the field a little uneasy, and you can bet that Sarah is on their minds.

When Rick Perry jumped in many were claiming it's all over, but since then he has slipped. Since she won the Iowa straw poll, Michele Bachmann has slipped a bit. Rick Perry even attempted to lock up the Christian right vote before he jumped in, but Sarah Palin is still the choice of over 80% of the Christian conservatives. And guess who will show up en masse if she enters the race? You got it, the conservative Christian base. That is why the country-club Republicans keep touting Romney, or begging

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To: KevinDavis

Obama is going to go negative on any GOP candidate. The GOP nominee should aim to prove to the country that he/she isn’t a nut. This is done by not saying crazy shit that makes no sense to an intelligent person. This can be done without backing away from his/her agenda or refraining from laying it on Obama, who deserves everything he gets. Obama will try to make the other side the issue next year, but I think he’ll find that very hard to do, and also dangerous because he’s really wading in it as it is. The GOP nominee needs to be optimistic but serious, probably more so than Barry is likely to be.


51 posted on 09/25/2011 8:57:51 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: dennisw
If Palin was running she had to jump in a few weeks ago. She has missed too many debates because she is afraid of coming off bad in them. Her time has passed but she can run in 2016 or 2020 I suppose

Perhaps it would help you to read the full article which included;

The question is, why should Sarah enter the race ahead of her own schedule? If you ask me, I think she is one smart cookie to be sitting by as the current candidates destroy each other. These debates and all this early campaigning are primarily about getting recognized by the base, and there is not a possible candidate who is better known than Sarah is already. So unlike the others, Palin can sit back and watch the show while she sharpens her teeth for the battle against an inevitable attack she will receive when she does jump in.

52 posted on 09/25/2011 8:58:47 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Sounds like a plan.


53 posted on 09/25/2011 8:59:21 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: yup2394871293

Um, you need to get out more. She has issued many de facto white papers on key issues and at Indianola she put forward the broad outline of a comprehensive campaign platform, to be filled in as the campaign progresses. She is spending almost no effort on defensive maneuvers of the kind you suggest. For that she relies on her vast army of volunteer cyber warriors. We have her back, and she knows it.


54 posted on 09/25/2011 8:59:30 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Nextrush
The system today is a lot different with primaries everywhere and some caucuses mixed in.

Yep. This ain't our grand fathers' primary politics. She's got maybe another two weeks to step in, given the way the game is played today. I think the author is nuts.

55 posted on 09/25/2011 9:00:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dennisw

“She has missed too many debates because she is afraid of coming off bad in them....”

LOLOLOLOL

Just like George Bush would be devastated by master debater Al Gore.........

LOLOLOLOLOL


56 posted on 09/25/2011 9:02:46 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: RitaOK
Wait ‘til you move on down thread to #92. I already discussed the “who needs ‘em”. LOL.

There are only 55 posts on this thread as I type this. LOL?

57 posted on 09/25/2011 9:03:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cpdiii

“That is correct but I have a few problems with his position on Global Warming. Gingrich is an intellect of great standing”

I don’t have a problem with his position. His position is simply this. IF IF IF global warming is true, what is the best conservative response so that we have something on the table?

Now you understandably reject the premise and have no need to provide an answer but Newt was always the kind of guy who would ponder what-if hypothetical examples. For example, he wrote a book (1945) on what if we didn’t fight Germany after Pearl Harbor.


58 posted on 09/25/2011 9:04:22 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: Freepmanchew

She’s going to have the ‘powers’ in the GOP begging her to run before it’s over!;-)

Christie Courted, Still Says No
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204010604576593182650732322.html?mod=rss_Politics_And_Policy


59 posted on 09/25/2011 9:05:35 PM PDT by GlockLady (Ah Sarah! You make us SOBs proud.)
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To: GunRunner
“This idiot must not have heard about filing deadlines. They start expiring at the end of October.”

You do know that the Nov 1st date is just some states don't you? If she wants to get her name on the ballot for all the state primaries the date would be November 1st she would have to announce by, but even in those early Nov 1st states she can still be eligible for as a write-In. Candidates do concede states all the times. Reagan did not announce until later in November.

60 posted on 09/25/2011 9:06:15 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (GO MAMA GRIZZLY!)
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To: ari-freedom

His point at the time was to prove that the solution to global warming was a free market solution. His intent was judo, turning the Dems’ own argument on its head.


61 posted on 09/25/2011 9:06:26 PM PDT by marron
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To: Freepmanchew

Here’s how it is going to come down:

Sarah joins the race in mid-October, 2012 as a write-in independent candidate. On election day, 64% of the electorate writes her in and she makes history.

No muss, no fuss. Nuttin’ to it.


62 posted on 09/25/2011 9:06:41 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.....The days are long but the years are short.....)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

“I think she’s waiting to be drafted at the Convention.”

I have serious doubys about that, and can’t see it being a part of her strategy.......drafted candidates are as rare as mice that catch cats.


63 posted on 09/25/2011 9:08:25 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Sarah joins the race in mid-October, 2012 as a write-in independent candidate. On election day, 64% of the electorate writes her in and she makes history.”

unfortunately it was the other way around in Alaska. Palin was for Miller but write-in Lisa won.


64 posted on 09/25/2011 9:09:14 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: Windflier
Stop up your ears or go away if you don't like what I have to say. The only candidate I'm for so far is that one who is conservative and can win both the office and the fight. Haven't a clue who that is. Other than that, I don't like Romney.

Palin has been in the public eye long enough to know what not to say. I'm sure she did quite a few good things in Alaska. What Cain lacks in terms of gaffe-avoidance experience he offers in business experience. Palin has more experience as an elected official and may charm the socks off of some people, but she needs to make a good case for how she can turn the economy around and not be deterred by whatever FUD the Democrats will dream up.
65 posted on 09/25/2011 9:09:42 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: upsdriver

I can’t stand it when people choose a candidate and spend all their time coming up with excuses for their behavior. If you’re serious about running for president, you’d better start fundraising now and make it clear that you’re in the race. You either are or you aren’t. If you’re neither, you’re a weak candidate to start with.


66 posted on 09/25/2011 9:13:22 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: RitaOK

>>> PERRY REVIVES NEVADA CAUCASES <<<

Sorry, that’s what I get for thread jumping. And you’re late.


67 posted on 09/25/2011 9:16:34 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: KevinDavis

I know everyone has their favorite candidate candidate,, and since you so “eloquently” made your case against Palin, who would you suggest? Someone the moderate Dems and indies can vote for...Hmmm sounds like you want a RINO?!

BTW, the insults and name-calling on a pro-palin thread are really getting old. Seriously, you don’t have to to be so rude and insulting. Calling people idiots and stupid is low-brow.


68 posted on 09/25/2011 9:18:12 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Windflier

Good advice for all to follow.

Re platform. Can’t picture Palin standing among several exemplary candidates delivering her OWN SPECIFIC action points and their priority. She is too above it all. The PALIN/CAIN suggestion is an insult to the declared candidate who has been in and digging from the start.
Do we want a president PALIN who waits and waits and waits when there is a national emergency? Or do we want an ENGAGED and DELIBERATE president? Why not wait until she sweeps us off our feet at the convention and is drafted? What difference would it make from where we are now? Presidential? Call me whatever names you like. Not for me.


69 posted on 09/25/2011 9:18:16 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: yup2394871293
If she finally decides to run (I sort of doubt it), she needs to have an agenda to run on and fight for. She’s been spending all of her time so far defending herself as a person. Her short record as AK governor is going to come up again though, although much of the public may have forgotten about that already!

Where....in....the....world....have....you....been..?

Palin has been pointing out the failures of the Obama administration and offering her own solutions for the past two years. She's been on offense the whole time. You've got to pay attention!

70 posted on 09/25/2011 9:21:06 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Windflier; All
Would be nice, but getting in the Florida primary is a lot more important.

I have a question. Is it possible to file the paperwork for state primaries without officially announcing?

71 posted on 09/25/2011 9:24:06 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: yup2394871293
Stop up your ears or go away if you don't like what I have to say.

No.....I won't stop up my ears, and I'm not going anywhere, noob.

You threw out some of the most ridiculous pap I've read on this forum in a long time, so I called you on it. You don't like that, then don't post patently false liberal memes about Governor Palin. The stale talking points you barfed up were last seen sometime around the summer of 2009.

It's obvious that you haven't been keeping up with what Governor Palin has been writing and speaking on, over the last two years. If you were, you'd never have made those assertions.

If you've got some real policy disagreements with Palin, then you need to bone up on what her policy positions are. Otherwise, you're going to come off like some interloper from DU, spouting crap that 99% of us will see through in a nanosecond.

72 posted on 09/25/2011 9:24:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: marron
His point at the time was to prove that the solution to global warming was a free market solution. His intent was judo, turning the Dems’ own argument on its head.

Is that what that PSA with Nancy Pelosi was all about? A free market solution?

I guess he sure fooled her.

73 posted on 09/25/2011 9:26:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: yup2394871293

” If you’re neither, you’re a weak candidate to start with.”

Or the only unstoppable candidate.........


74 posted on 09/25/2011 9:26:35 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis......got my GRRRRR on!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Here’s how it is going to come down:

Sarah joins the race in mid-October, 2012 as a write-in independent candidate. On election day, 64% of the electorate writes her in and she makes history.

Maybe in the movies, or some political thriller, but not in the real world of rough and tumble electoral politics. I honestly don't believe that Sarah intends to be that unconventional.

75 posted on 09/25/2011 9:29:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: KevinDavis
KevinDavis wrote:
The key for this election is to get at least 4% of the people who voted for Obama. Basically we need the moderate Dems and the indies..
Sorry, but you are misinformed.

First, it's not about the popular vote totals. It's about electoral votes. With the Census and redistricting and reallocation of House seats, if we had an exact rerun of 2008, with exactly the same states going to Obama and McCain, Obama has already lost about 10 electoral votes, I think. More of the states Obama carried lost electoral votes than gained. McCain states gained more than they lost. Still, Republicans need to flip some states. Florida (29 EV) is important, so are Ohio (18 EV) and Pennsylvania (20 EV). Even Colorado (9 EV) and New Mexico (5 EV) can help.

This is one reason that Rubio is considered likely to be the VP no matter who gets the nomination. Florida is critical. It's probably the largest block of electoral votes that Obama had in 2008 that are in play and vulnerable in 2012.

Also, we need some of the people who were so turned off by McCain that they stayed home in 2008. Palin actually minimized that damage in 2008, but some conservatives did not vote for McCain in 2008. The Republicans are far more likely to win in 2012 if they can keep their base motivated than by trying to "convert" Obama voters. Don't get me wrong, I do think some Obama voters will switch to the Republican side in 2012, especially among the independents. They will likely go for "anybody but Obama." But that shouldn't be the focus of the Republican candidate. If you think that alone will carry the election, you're following a losing strategy.

76 posted on 09/25/2011 9:32:55 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: yup2394871293

I really would like to respond to you but you posted pure nonsense so I’ll pass.


77 posted on 09/25/2011 9:35:38 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: NavyCanDo
If Palin thinks she can win by skipping primaries (like Florida and South Carolina), she's welcome to try. Reagan didn't skip primaries.

It's kind of hard to get elected when you're name is not on the ballot, although Alaskans do seem to have a thing for write in campaigns.

Maybe it's because they are the smallest state in the country. Won't work in the big leagues.

78 posted on 09/25/2011 9:38:35 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: famousdayandyear
Do we want a president PALIN who waits and waits and waits when there is a national emergency? Or do we want an ENGAGED and DELIBERATE president? Why not wait until she sweeps us off our feet at the convention and is drafted?

If you'd made that statement two months ago, I could forgive you for not understanding that she is strategically timing her entry into the race. Even the sharpest political watchers were only then beginning to grasp what she is doing.

But now, after months and months of observing the race, and seeing the declared candidates taking on ever-increasing damage, even the most casual watchers have completely grasped her basic strategy, and have concluded that it makes perfect sense.

No need for me to explain it for the umpteenth time. It's already old news. Just watch for her announcement soon. It's coming.

79 posted on 09/25/2011 9:42:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: onyx

Sarah ping.


80 posted on 09/25/2011 9:44:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: upsdriver

Sounds a little like “Curses, foiled again!”.


81 posted on 09/25/2011 9:44:37 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Windflier
Go back and review what Palin's actually been up to over the last two years

...reality shows with Kate Gosselin

82 posted on 09/25/2011 9:45:39 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Windflier; RitaOK

Clairvoyance?


83 posted on 09/25/2011 9:49:00 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
...reality shows with Kate Gosselin

Snarky attempt at demeaning satire duly noted and filed accordingly (flush...)

I think you've been 'behind liberal lines' too long. You're starting to sound just like the enemy.

84 posted on 09/25/2011 9:54:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GunRunner
If Palin thinks she can win by skipping primaries (like Florida and South Carolina), she's welcome to try. Reagan didn't skip primaries.

Palin didn't say that - the author did. It's a ridiculous theory, but otherwise, the article is a good piece.

85 posted on 09/25/2011 9:58:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Clairvoyance?

Dunno, but post 92 is coming up soon. We'll see here in just a few minutes.

86 posted on 09/25/2011 10:01:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: upsdriver
Is it possible to file the paperwork for state primaries without officially announcing?

Not really. As far as I know, any candidate paperwork filed is public record, and here in Illinois it will be on the state board of elections website more or less immediately. This is so objectors can jump right in and try to knock people off the ballot, and I actually know of one objector here who will complain about candidate birth certificates.

So no, trying to file without announcing would really just be turning the announcement over to a hostile press, and there's no upside to that.

87 posted on 09/25/2011 10:05:05 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Windflier

Sarah Palin is too cool and too rogue to participate in GOP debates. That’s for the little people. Palin is waiting for the lead candidates to implode, then she steps in to save the day. I doubt her scenario will take place plus this is what vultures do.


88 posted on 09/25/2011 10:07:44 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: Freepmanchew

Sarah is within 5 points of BO in the latest polls. As other candidates slip, some of their support might look to Gov. Palin.


89 posted on 09/25/2011 10:15:08 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Freepmanchew

Ahhh no ... if she wants to enter the race now is the time to do it. Not getting in earlier was fine, but now it’s crunch time - do whatever she will, but decisions must be made.


90 posted on 09/25/2011 10:17:00 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: GunRunner

Some states require teh canddiate to file, some require the delegates to file. Some of Palin’s delegates can file whether she’d declared or not. And her supporters can file for her to be on ballots whether she’s formally in the race or not.


91 posted on 09/25/2011 10:18:47 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: dennisw
Sarah Palin is too cool and too rogue to participate in GOP debates. That’s for the little people. Palin is waiting for the lead candidates to implode, then she steps in to save the day.

First of all, Palin isn't above debating any serious contender about the state of the country, and which solutions are best for fixing it.

Where you err, is in attaching any value to the current dog and pony shows that some are calling 'debates'. Mitt Romney and Rick Perry have (or had) enough name recognition and standing in the polls, that they could have delayed their entry into the race, and skipped most of these 'debates', just as Palin is doing.

They would have avoided being damaged by their opponents, and would have kept the chances of their losing any points to a minimum, as well. In addition, they could have continued to get their messages out to supporters and potential supporters without being a part of that demolition derby - and saved a whole lot of campaign cash and energy to boot.

But, for whatever reason, they felt they had to jump in with both feet and battle it out with the second tier. Now that they have, what have they gained? More support? No.... Better standing in the polls? No.... A strengthened message? No.... Better positioning as front runners? Not exactly...

So, tell me again why Sarah Palin is making a mistake by delaying her entry into the race?

92 posted on 09/25/2011 10:23:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nextrush

And the Establishment outsider, Perry.


93 posted on 09/25/2011 10:23:33 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Freepmanchew

deadlines for some primaries and their delegates are before your surmisal


94 posted on 09/25/2011 10:25:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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To: upsdriver

No.


95 posted on 09/25/2011 10:25:41 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Freepmanchew

I’ve moved on to Herman Cain, who actually has the guts to get in the race and show up and debate, instead of hemming and hawing.


96 posted on 09/25/2011 10:31:30 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: TBP
...the Establishment outsider, Perry.

What a concise way to describe him. I don't think I've seen better.

I've perused many Perry threads, and read the various posters debating his pros and cons, but as someone who's watched him closely as my Governor, all I can say is that I saw right through him years and years ago.

For what it's worth, he doesn't come across as sincere. Every time I've watched him speak, my radar has started pinging, "con man alert!" I've been around the block enough times to know the vibes of real honesty and sincerity, and Perry just does not have emanate them.

Perhaps now that he's been in a couple of televised debates, people will see in him, what voters in 1960 saw in Nixon. I'm sorry, but the man has always struck me as a politician's politician. For my money, he is most definitely the establishment's hand-picked outsider.

97 posted on 09/25/2011 10:37:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
hemming and hawing

By now, it should be clear to even the dimmest among us, that Sarah isn't procrastinating, or trying to make up her mind about running.

I, and many others, figured out months ago, that she's strategically timing her entry into the race for maximum advantage. Two or three months ago, that took some serious observation and deduction to figure out, but now? It's plain for all to see. Even the MSM turdlings get it.

98 posted on 09/25/2011 10:44:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Great post.

These “debates” resemble a joint news conference, with the questions asked by liberal pundits.

I would much rather see the GOP contenders ask each other questions, instead of fielding gotcha questions from the so-called moderators.


99 posted on 09/25/2011 10:47:38 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama inherited a mild recession from George W. Bush and turned it into a major depression.)
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To: dennisw
If Palin was running she had to jump in a few weeks ago.

Seriously? Have you seen the debate schedule?

100 posted on 09/25/2011 10:50:21 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--GAME ON!!!)
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