Posted on 09/28/2011 9:52:10 AM PDT by pingman
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The only thing that I have seen is that some of his supporters worry that the press will play up that he had cancer. They might but it’s not an issue for me.
Agreed. Glad to know I’m not the only sane one around here.
No matter how you try to spin it, she still quit. If Palin was so tough and such a trailblazing leader, she would have remained in her job as governor, fought the frivolous charges and worked to change the system that allows such things to happen. Instead she bailed on her state and made a fortune giving speeches, doing silly RealityTV and making an additional million bucks a year courtesy Fox News. You can try sugarcoating it from here to eternity, but it was a serious error if she were actually planning on running for President. It is my guess she knew this from the start and never had any intention to run in 2012.
“Not just one, over a dozen. And how someone’s most vocal supporters act says a lot about the candidate.”
A whole dozen? My gosh, man, out of several million supporters there will be about a million who go completely overboard with their support, and a couple hundred thousand who are certifiable.
And a zillion people out there said the same thing to try to smear Reagan. Remember Bitburg?
I understand your questioning mode at this point, and agree - just don’t rule Governor Palin out because of some other people’s actions.
Why should Republicans play the left's game? They should pick and choose CAREFULLY what and IF they should debate. If the questioners are "gotcha" people, don't.
The truth isn't spin. The lawsuits nearly brought the state of Alaska to it's knees. State business was being neglected because employees had to search for documents and they couldn't do their jobs. It cost the state at least $2 Mil. If she had selfishly stayed you would be yelling about that.
Never trust anyone that will not relinquish power for the good of their people.
No matter how you try to spin it, she still quit...blah,blah,blah.
Your spin on it really gets tiresome. What you are doing is completely ignoring the results of the mid-terms and the unparalelled work Governor Palin put in for the non-establishment Governors, Senators, and tea-party congressmen that were elected in the mid-terms. That would not have happened had she not resigned and went to work fro the conservative wing of the party on a national basis.
Whether Governor Palin runs for President this time around or not, she will have a huge effect in 2012 on both the Prsidential race and the down-ticket races.
If she doesn’t run, she will be letting a lot of people down
I believe that she owes her family first. She has two small children. There have been death threats and harassment. What does Palin owe us? What do her children owe us? Nothing.
I’ve noticed she does have a bit of an accent, though I have no idea what. She says things like “dill” for “deal.”
Big dill. Easier to understand than some southern drawls - or that “urban stuff.”
(typed with a Canadian accent)
Cheers,
Jim
Right, that`s what I got from what she said. But I also got from her was that Cain is being pushed by the MSM/REP est as we speak, just as they did Bachmann, Trump and Perry.
Sarah knows that these same folks are not going to push her in any way shape or form. In fact much of the pushing of these other candidates by MSM/REP EST is aimed at trying to discourage Gov Palin from getting in the race.
She has to completely disregard polls from here on out, because they are not going to be helpful.
Sarah has the ace in the hole, the one thing the MSM/REP EST can not manipulate, and that is the money she raises once she announces. That will trump their phony polls
Even the transcript is out of context. I saw the interview, and without hearing Greta's questions prior to Palin's statement, it loses context. Earlier in the interview, Greta starts off a question by making a long commentary about how the media creates the stories in the primaries. Greta specifically uses the phrase "flavor of the week" to describe the media spin after each debate. This comment from Palin regarding Cain comes later in the interview. When Palin says "With all due respect, he's the flavor of the week...", she's referring back to Greta's comments. Herman Cain is the media story of the week after the most recent debate.
I'm a big fan of Mr. Cain's (and Palin's too), and didn't hear anything personal in Palin's comment. But, I must say, it did sound to me more like she was saying "Herb" than "Herm". In either case, I didn't think that was exactly appropriate, but what're ya gonna do? *shrug*
What is childish is to allow people that Gov Palin does not even know (perhaps me) to make you have a negative opinion of her.
It is Childish and unfair... And in the event you may be a Christian, you would be disrespecting your sister in Christ Sarah..
So your statement is the most childish
In an interview Sarah Palin said Perry was a crony capitalist. She made it clear she did not care for that in Perry. But the interview with Palin about Cain was different. Flavor of the week was a slam against the media and their treatment of the election. She made it very clear she likes Cain and agrees with him.
I saw both interviews. It was obvious she had a problem with Perry. The only way you can conclude she has a problem with Cain is to take a few words completely out of context and try to spin it as Palin having a problem with Cain.
You should be cautious about falling for this trick because the media is trying to fool you. So you should be quick to determine the truth. The media can fool you by making a bad person look good and they can fool you by tricking you into believing a good person is bad. See what they have tried to do to Palin for example. Don’t let them manipulate you into believing the wrong thing.
Herman Cain’s views haven’t changed. He is a conservative. His opinions on subjects are not hidden. As a talk radio person it would be very difficult for him to run from what he has said. As Rush Limbaugh has said, Cain has not been anything but a conservative from the start.
This is just a bit of the truth about Herman Cain and abortion from an interview with a well known pro-life organization:
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/
Cain does not sound squishy on abortion to me.
No, I'm not missing that at all. I fully agree with it. The point about her quitting her gig as governor is only that it badly hurt her chances of being a presidential contender in 2012 - assuming she ever had such ambitions to begin with which I rather doubt.
Whether Governor Palin runs for President this time around or not, she will have a huge effect in 2012 on both the Prsidential race and the down-ticket races.
I agree she will have an impact, just not as a candidate for president in 2012.
The path Palin has chosen is one of high profile, conservative celebrity, NOT serious presidential contender. She has teased our her "will I or won't I run" campaign in order to keep attention on herself and the issues she wishes to promote. The minutes she concedes she is NOT running, some of that easy media attention will vanish. Once the 2012 campaign kicks off in earnest though, she will campaign for Republicans, no doubt have a major convention timeslot and will endorse our nominee.
A dozen ON FR. And that is more than enough.
I posted this to you last night, but you apparently missed it.
So, here it is again.
On August 25, in an interview on FoxNews, Herman Cain called both Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann "flavor of the week".
Click on the link, it's a short clip, 19 seconds.
This is not the big deal that the MSM and others wants to make it seem.
I don’t disrespect her, I can’t stand the few idiots who claim to support her on here.
I have never questioned her faith nor would I but I don’t see her a Savior either like some on here do.
And questioning my faith ON my political decisions doesn’t say much about yours.
Faith does NOT EQUAL POLITICS.
It is still tacky.
For clarity I’m not calling all her supporters idiots, nor am I saying all of her supporters on here are idiots or vile, or that she only has a few supporters on here, but there are some who claim to support Palin on here who are idiots and they are sadly vocal and getting worse.
So what really bothers you is that Palin is more successful than you.
And I agree with that. Sadly, too often people equate the two.
Isn't this whole "Sarah Palin called Herman Cain 'flavor of the week', Oh my!" an overblown and very silly controversy?
And don't you think our time would be much better spent on real issues, rather than juvenile, manufactured controversies such as this?
Being a hockey mom, this is more likely.
Both are tacky. But IMO it is more tacky coming from a non candidate.
I would much rather discuss the issues rather than have to deal with insults. But I don’t see that happening any time soon on some of these threads, sadly.
Yeah she did say Herb Cain.Didn’t she?I wasn’t sure I thought maybe she was saying Herm Cain.And I forgot about Palin saying Cain was THE FLAVOR of the week.Either she is very arrogant thinking when she runs she will be -it- (which I doubt) or she is what I saw listed in a campaign 2012 wikipedia write up;that she is a paid 2012 contender commentator.
I think it is strange that she is a commentator for whom she could be; a 2012 contender.But what else is going to speak about in her a mil a year contract with Fox News?She really needs to say yes or no already.She is NOT Reagan.Reagan did not get a million dollar a year commentator contract and comment on his opponents before he ran.
You’re probably right. I’m not a hockey fan, and didn’t know of him. But she is, and probably did.
Neither does she have much connection with old SanFranciscana.
It was still an unfortunate gaffe, which bolsters a reputation she received (unfairly, given that Liberal politicians with similar tendencies towards malapropisms—eg., Al Gore, Barack Obama—don’t get labeled with it).
Would it be unfair of me to ask this delicate question? Or would it be off limits?
Does he not attend a all black Church that supports Barack Obama? Is that a unfair question? Isn`t the killing so far of 60 million plus unborn children trump a delicate question?
A visit to the Church web site shows that it seems to be ALL black, not saying they have no other races, but I did not see any.
The Pastor talks about the glorious day Barack Obama was inaugurated, the entire Church watched together giving praise and glory to God.
Another senior black woman receives a award for a article or something that says she respects Obama more than anybody else.
I didn`t come across anything that suggested they were weeping for the unborn, nothing that condemned Obama for appointing 2 non Christian pro abortion woman to the high Court.
Could not find any outrage about the fact that Prayer and the Word of God are not welcome in the classroom/public square.
Found nowhere on the site about weeping for the unborn, or outraged over the removal of crosses from veterans cemeteries etc etc.
This is the Church that he attends?
Am I able to ask these questions?
I weep for the unborn, that is really the only reason I bother with politics, along with the other Christian issues/Supreme Court etc...that`s it.
Would it be unfair of me to ask this delicate question? Or would it be off limits?
Does he not attend a all black Church that supports Barack Obama? Is that a unfair question? Isn`t the killing so far of 60 million plus unborn children trump a delicate question?
A visit to the Church web site shows that it seems to be ALL black, not saying they have no other races, but I did not see any.
The Pastor talks about the glorious day Barack Obama was inaugurated, the entire Church watched together giving praise and glory to God.
Another senior black woman receives a award for a article or something that says she respects Obama more than anybody else.
I didn`t come across anything that suggested they were weeping for the unborn, nothing that condemned Obama for appointing 2 non Christian pro abortion woman to the high Court.
Could not find any outrage about the fact that Prayer and the Word of God are not welcome in the classroom/public square.
Found nowhere on the site about weeping for the unborn, or outraged over the removal of crosses from veterans cemeteries etc etc.
This is the Church that he attends?
Am I able to ask these questions?
I weep for the unborn, that is really the only reason I bother with politics, along with the other Christian issues/Supreme Court etc...that`s it.
Governor Palin will get into this race when she has the strategic opportunity, and will beat each and every one of the current candidates. Sorry, and I like Herman Cain. The Republican establishment, and the candidates they have chosen for us, will just have to watch how a true Constitutional Conservative can be elected President, and then begin the massive clean up in Washington of the wishy/washy, no spine republicans.
EAGLES UP SARAH...GIVE UM HELL!
This is the link I used for the Church Herm attends
THe praise of Obama is half way down under FROM THE PASTORS DESK
http://www.antiochnorth.org/antioch_nwsltr_feb_09.pdf
You have every right to ask any and all the questions you want.
How many all black churches do you know of that don’t like Obama at all? I only know of one. If you believe that Cain attending an all black church is racist, then I’m sure you are applying the same standard to all the other candidates.
I don’t know about your church, perhaps it is different, but most tax exempt churches don’t make political statements especially in a church bulletin. Perhaps he does other things like attend rallies stands or out in front of abortion centers or sends money in support of pro life causes. Perhaps he’s devoted time on his radio program speaking out against abortion.
You would not find political information in my church bulletin, but we don’t have abortion clinics in our area any more because of the work and prayers of our members and others. But if my fellow church members were judged by our church bulletin, we would probably be found wanting as well.
If you're going to play that game, no matter how you try to spin it, Perry still lied when he ran for Governor and said he wasn't going to run for president -- remember, the campaign where he asked Palin to endorse him, and she obliged?
But I see you've become a bit disillusioned with Perry, mainly because of of his poor debate performances. You seem to me like a FReeper without a candidate, and that's fine ... you also seem to me like a FReeper on a mission to demoralize Palin supporters. That's lousy, but the WORST of it is that you KNOWINGLY spin Palin's resigning the governorship as to create a false impression of Palin in order to demoralize her supporters and to sway those on the fence not to support her.
If Palin presented remotely the threat to the Republic as Romney, that would be one thing. I have long done my best to sway those on the fence into not only dumping Romney, but to recognize him as the poison he is. The difference is, I use WHOLE truth, ZERO spin, to do it. When you try to convince folks not to support Palin, you have to be devious and disingenuous because your hand is weak.
Palin expressed surprise when Perry entered the race, if you'll recall, saying that he'd been so "adamant" that he wasn't going to run that his entry into the primaries was, for her, unexpected. She went on to say it was fine with her that he entered the race. She didn't spin it as "Perry lied."
You, on the other hand, are right here spinning that "Palin quit" when the more truthful assessment is that Palin resigned to sidestep a calculated legal strategy used by her political enemies via frivolous lawsuits filed for the SOLE PURPOSE of freezing both her personal finances and Governorship's administration.
In this FReeper's opinion, your behavior is contemptible.
Indeed. Thanks for sharing your insights!
This is largely true. I saw Perry as a solid option, but his debate performances were awful and I don't want a candidate who can not communicate. I am not writing him off just yet, but I am not shy about criticizing anyone who deserves it. You might want to consider that I am doing exactly the same thing where Palin is concerned. No matter who I end up supporting, I will freely criticize them when they make mistakes, say dumb things or otherwise blunder.
you also seem to me like a FReeper on a mission to demoralize Palin supporters.
No, this is a forum for discussion and the one thing that has grown very tiring is the fanatical, almost cult like behavior of a lot of Palin die hards. Even the slightest criticism of her is met with hysterical wailing, screaming and attacks. These people seem convinced that Palin is some sort of national savior who makes no mistakes and is almost entitled to be the nominee. Many seem to have lost complete touch with reality and attack any candidate they see as competition with the most vicious invective. I am certainly not the only one who has noticed either. I'm telling you, a lot of people are really sick of it - in fact Coulter and Ingraham were talking about this very thing a few weeks back.
When you try to convince folks not to support Palin, you have to be devious and disingenuous because your hand is weak.
Nonsense. The only point I've made is she is not running for President and the path she has taken the last couple years prove it. If I was wrong and she did run and win the nomination, I would vote for her enthusiastically against Hussein. I am not wrong though, she just isn't running.
Palin resigned to sidestep a calculated legal strategy used by her political enemies via frivolous lawsuits filed for the SOLE PURPOSE of freezing both her personal finances and Governorship's administration.
Just stop. Your trying to make it seem as if quitting her job as governor was her only option. It was not. She could have fought back and worked to change the system in Alaska that allows so many frivolous suits and complaints. That is supposed to be her whole appeal, someone who will fight the system. Instead of fighting, she resigned - and made a boatload of money in the process. The idea that Palin had no other option but quitting is a complete rewriting of history.
Was there some good in that? Sure, she had lots of time to help elect some very good candidates in 2010. The downside though, is it helped wreck any chance she may have had as a presidential candidate in 2012. Doing silly realityTV and these hit and run appearances to hog the spotlight from actual candidates didn't help either. There is a reason her polling is so negative. The path she has chosen has simply alienated a lot of Republicans.
Sarah Palin sits in her private TV studio up there in Alaska lobbing verbal bombs at the folks who are actually making an effort to run for President and to straighten out this country.
She’s regressing—getting more immature than Bristl!
I saw the interview as it happened. She was lobbing verbal bombs at the media who well deserve it.
It was more than obvious that she likes Cain a lot. That must not sit well with some and seems to scare the pants off others.
The people who have decided to rework what she said in order to serve their purposes are the ones problems, not Sarah Palin.
Uhhh...................how on earth did you arrive at THAT conclusion???
What on earth made you think I was implying I wouldn’t support a woman in politics??
I like Palin and would support her. I like Bachmann and contributed to her campaign.
I was telling you honestly what I thought about her chances. I would support her if she ran.
I can’t understand how you concluded what I said implied I wouldn’t support a woman.
It must have been woman’s logic. :)
“Palin is a nice lady, very pretty, has the right values, would make a great wife and/or fund raiser, but really should stay away from national office.”
How did I misunderstand? It seemed obvious to me. However, if I offended you, I apologize. I would never intentionally offend anyone.
I am of the generation that was brought up to not waste time with a career, I was just going to be a wife and mother. I have come a long way from that. I have been married 40 years, raised a set of twins, and am still raising my husband. I am offended when anyone suggests that a pretty woman should just make a great wife, stay in the background, and stay away from national office. Sorry!
No problem. I respect women of ability and have worked for them and with them.
I was just going to be a wife and mother.
Don’t ever say “just a mother” It IS the most important job in the world, along with being a father.
And if more parents were like you and husband seem to be, this generation and this country and this world wouldn’t be s screwed up as it has become.
Have a nice night.
You totally missed my point!
Racism never crossed my mind. I was just saying that black Churches most/all of the members vote Democrat, meaning that in affect they are saying they are fine with abortion and every other evil thing that Democrat appointed Supreme Court judges stand for.
So I am saying, how pro life could a person be that would associate with such people.
This does not just come down to blach Churches, how about Catholic Democrats, same situation, any liberal Church for that matter.
When is the last time you saw a black minister on tv weeping for the unborn?
Black Churches and liberal Churches have basically sold their souls to the Democrat party.
Cain says he is pro life, he has a record of supporting Republican candidates, I am just saying he has not been vetted yet
Are black churches primarily democrat? Yes, which is why it is rare to find a politically republican black church. But are black people totally liberal? No, they are economically liberal while being somewhat more socially conservative than typically found in democrat circles.
I’m sure it hurts Herman Cain to see black people so thoroughly deceived by the democratic party. He probably tries to talk and reason with them one on one. It may never have occurred to him to consider abandoning them for political reasons.
Herman Cain grew up in the South. You may not remember but when he was born, race mixing was not very popular there. So if he had decided to abandon his people, it would have been difficult for him. Black society was even more conservative back then too, even today older blacks tend to be far more conservative and Cain probably grew up in the church. But if Herman Cain’s association with a black church is too much for you, your vote is still your decision.
I do commend your desire to examine the candidates carefully.
Thanks
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