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Bombshell: DOJ Considering Elimination of ATF (ATF? WTF?)
Townhall ^ | 09/30/2011 | Katie Palich

Posted on 09/30/2011 2:59:57 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000

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To: PhilosopherStone1000

That would only be a start on eliminating rogue agencies. The White House and the DOJ set the tone for Fast and Furious.


21 posted on 09/30/2011 3:11:42 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Diogenesis
ATF has always been against terrorists.

There. Fixed it for you...

22 posted on 09/30/2011 3:12:06 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Diogenesis

Agreed. Several of the Law Enforcement agencies could be combined.....save money on overlap


23 posted on 09/30/2011 3:16:03 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

WTF?


24 posted on 09/30/2011 3:16:22 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Rock you like a hermancain!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I think “elimination” means “replacement”.


25 posted on 09/30/2011 3:16:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

WTF = “Win the Future”.


26 posted on 09/30/2011 3:19:20 PM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Smoke and mirrors. They will retire as many as possible and send the rest to another alphabet agency which will simply start a new division under a new name and continue the same ol’ bullshit.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 3:19:23 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Roll the ATF and its operations under DHS, rename the new agency: Reichssicherheitshauptamt
28 posted on 09/30/2011 3:19:53 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Mrkd


29 posted on 09/30/2011 3:19:56 PM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Elimination of ATF1 I’ve been waiting to read that for over thirty years since Rex Davis’ crap.


30 posted on 09/30/2011 3:24:20 PM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: Husker24
Another government agency will just be given more power then the ATF had had in the first place.

Probably the EPA.

31 posted on 09/30/2011 3:24:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

They lie about everything.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 3:25:32 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: Husker24; All

—righto—if we thought the ATF was bad, wait til the FBI gets to take this over——


33 posted on 09/30/2011 3:26:44 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Clearing being done to cover up Operation End the 2nd Amendment.

On the upside however, BATFE may go bye-bye. Doubt it but it makes me smile a little.


34 posted on 09/30/2011 3:29:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole
They'll just create another bureaucracy to replace it.
35 posted on 09/30/2011 3:30:06 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Scotsman will be Free; Lockbox
I agree with Lockbox:

Be careful, if they shut down the ATF then they will need a new agency to control gun sales. This means new rules and regulations. Until they get the new agency up to speed no gun sales. Think BP and the oil spill. How’s that drilling for oil in the Gulf going? Never let a crisis go to waste is this administration’s theme!

That's the Obama Administration I know.

36 posted on 09/30/2011 3:32:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Perry/Cain haters may not be RINOs but I cant think of anything a RINO would have done differently)
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To: dead

WTF does alcohol, tobacco and firearms have to do with each other anyway?


They are subject to federal excise taxes.

The sole justification for the agency is to serve as tax collectors. A PO Box would be sufficient.


37 posted on 09/30/2011 3:33:11 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000; 50cal Smokepole
Knowingly selling guns to foreign drug cartels who use those guns to kill Americans (not to mention more than 200 Mexicans) solely for the political purpose of strenghening US gun control laws is an impeachable offense.

Heck, Nixon got forced out for covering up a simple breaking and entering. What’s covering up murder worth?

An impeachable offense is whatever the House of Representatives determines it to be.

Remember that Andrew Johnson was impeached for firing cabinet officers in violation of a law passed by congress over his veto. The law is considered unconstitutional by pretty much everyone. The Republicans in control of congress simply hated his guts.

As for Nixon he was hated as well by the Dims that control both houses. The Republicans were a party in exile so beaten down by decades as a minority party that they simply paid lip service to their party platform and were Democrat light in reality.

The current Republicans are recovering Republicrats so don’t expect them to go to the mat on principles that they only loosely hold. I would imagine that they will be a bit gun shy on the whole impeachment idea after getting spanked at the polls after the impeachment of Clinton.

38 posted on 09/30/2011 3:33:40 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: dead
“WTF does alcohol, tobacco and firearms have to do with each other anyway?”

After you come back from hunting you have yourself 3 fingers of Kentucky’s finest and a good cigar.

39 posted on 09/30/2011 3:33:44 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

An attempt to divert. This will be nothing but a name change (think ACORN) and a few desks and portfolios shuffled around. The same criminal, totalitarian thugs will still play the same games until the bad actors start doing hard prison time.


40 posted on 09/30/2011 3:34:12 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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