Posted on 09/30/2011 7:26:38 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
I guess I don’t understand why cameras with security watching in real time doesn’t work- we had people try to walk out with big ticket items 30 years ago when I worked in retail. Shoplifting is not new, you would think with all the high tech things now there would be something that worked better than checking everyone at the door.
I show my receipt without hassling the door greeter, and I am always nice to them. I still think it is a bad policy and they could find a better solution to shoplifting or employee theft.
Because white females just do not attack senior Walmart greeters...
Mike
Also, my daughter's friend that works at the big grocery store— they're basically not allowed to do anything and even with their high tech security people steal A LOT. Last Christmas a woman drove up to the front of the store and two men jumped out and started filling up the back of a truck with large Christmas trees that were being sold for charity! They were only caught because several customers positioned their cars so that the truck couldn't get out and called the police.
“choked the cracker”= a hate crime? Apparently not. But we all know if it was the other way around, well, it’s been said many times over.
In Missouri, this crime could have been prosecuted as a felony elder abuse.
Couple of folks I’d choke if I knew I was only going to get 15 days
For it.
Maybe get a pleA deal and serve both sentences at the same time
Wow...a whole 15 days...sounds like the Soviet Union or the Nazi People Court.
This judge is a real putz.
If her use of the cart is by an implied invitation, the invitation can be withdrawn at any time. This effectively gives walmart the right to demand she empty the cart at any time. This is would give walmart an ability to inspect her purchases. The way they accomplish the same end is generally perceived to be more polite
“This effectively gives walmart the right to demand she empty the cart at any time”
I disagree. Again, there is no implied or express clause for that in the contract. The implied contract is clearly “you may use this cart to take your posessions to your car”.
They cannot suddenly cut that contract short any more than a company who hires cars can uncontractually take back their hire car while you are in the middle of Death Valley, CA.
Walmart could add the clause you suggest, but that would need to be implied or expressed in some way. It is not.
Respect for contract law is what raised America to the heights it reached. Scorn for contract law is what sent the communist countries to the depths they reached.
The hire car analogy fails because there is consideration and most often a written agreement. Thx better analogy is the loan of a car from a friend who can indeed demand it’s return at any time. BTW I see no more of an implied contract for the use of the cart than I do for the use of the restrooms; another convenience provided by the store. One could not reasonably dye ones hair in the walmart restroom although that Is a reasonable act in ones own bathroom. The offer of the convenience is limited and one has no more rights to their use than the merchant offers.
“car from a friend who can indeed demand it’s return at any time”
Because that’s the implied agreement.
And the implied contract for the restrooms is that they are for necessities. There is no implied contract that they are for dying your hair.
“They cannot suddenly cut that contract short any more than a company who hires cars can uncontractually take back their hire car while you are in the middle of Death Valley, CA.”
A police officer could ask you at any time to show proof you rented that car, even in the middle of Death Valley, CA.
“A police officer could ask you at any time to show proof you rented that car, even in the middle of Death Valley, CA.”
Of course he could! But he could not alter the contract that exists. IF he had reasonable cause to suspect that you may not have a valid contract with the car hire company, he could check that your contract is valid. But he should need reasonable cause to even do that. And certainly, your contract is in order, for the cart.
Even if there were a police officer at the door of Walmart checking receipts, we should find that to be illegal. Stop and search your belongings, and check that you have the correct receipt for those belongings? On what basis could he POSSIBLY do that? It would be a disgusting abuse.
Well clearly the implied agreement for shopping in the store is submitting to a check upon leaving. That is their consistent practice and is in many ways similar to stores that ask you to check shopping bags you bring in with you
It’s not implied. But if that is their intended contract, then let them post it clearly at the door. That’s all I ask. Then we can discuss whether it is worth shopping at a place that requires such a thing.
Remember Marcus Aurelius who said “ A man is only as important as those things that concern him”
Try the green can
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