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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 2 October 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 2 October 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/02/2011 5:12:43 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



October 2nd, 2011

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): 2012 GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain; FedEx chairman Fred Smith and BET founder Robert Johnson talk economic policies.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Govs. Bob McDonnell, R-Va., and Deval Patrick, D-Mass.; Rep. Xavier Becerra, D-Calif; Sunday's roundtable: Becerra, Murphy, Dionne, Noonan.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Govs. Martin O'Malley, D-Md., and Haley Barbour, R-Miss.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Cain; Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz; Senior foreign affairs correspondent Martha Raddatz; Roundtable: George Will, ABC News senior White House correspondent Jake Tapper, Philadelphia Enquirer reporter Matt Katz, Republican strategist Nicolle Wallace and Democratic strategist Mark Penn.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz; former CIA Director Michael Hayden; former Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif.; Barbour.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; sunday; talkshows
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To: PaleoBob
Correct, Bob. Coulter is a bulldog, so I'll not disparage her fawning for Christie. I love some of what Christie does.

It's understandable how she could support him, given we've all got to make a decision as to whom is the most electable "conservative" (he does have some conservative traits, afterall).

This cycle appears to be wide open for us since almost anyone should be able to easily trash Obie. Ann may not agree.

151 posted on 10/02/2011 7:58:30 AM PDT by chiller ( Obama is nothing more than a professional money launderer)
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To: rodguy911

Yeah....and Christeeeeen Ah-man-so-Poor told us today “We are a Democracy!”

(uh, christeeeen....we are a Republic, not a democracy..duh.)


152 posted on 10/02/2011 7:58:43 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: PaleoBob
I don't see it as just this one issue.

I think we have learned from GW who failed to fight back when the left attacked him relentlessly usually lying about what he did or said.

If we nail them on every lie they tell they will tell fewer lies and think twice about going after us when they know there will be a price to pay.

The left are mostly a gutless lot. They seek constant political advantage with no price too pay. Make them pay and they will slide back into the coffins they live in.

It's time to take the lead. Not let the far left dictate the issues.

153 posted on 10/02/2011 8:00:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: altura

” Seeing him beside Obama would be a funny picture, both of them a little weird looking physically.”

Barry has a very Egyptian looking profile if you get to see the rare shot of his head / neck from the side.


154 posted on 10/02/2011 8:00:58 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: rodguy911

I know. (about the unpredictability of this race). Sarah’s ‘flavor of the week,’ remark was spot on. Who was the first flavor? Can’t remember, but then it was Perry and then he unfortunately, had a really bad showing at the second debate and people here dropped him, and ... wait, I think the first flavor was Michele Bachmann.

Then stuff came out about her husband and she flubbed the first debate, sounded uninformed and hysterical. Then Perry and he flubbed the second debate.

Maybe the people who stayed out were smart, although Cain, current flavor of the week, did good debating—stuck on point, remained dignified and didn’t attack fellow pubs.


155 posted on 10/02/2011 8:02:34 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: PaleoBob

I like Michelle. She does make the trip rather well.Probably the greatest thing about Michelle is she documents everything she says. The left hates that.


156 posted on 10/02/2011 8:03:40 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: MNJohnnie
No question John.

And this will be the most important election of my lifetime.Everything rides on it.

That's why I liked chiller's post so much. He sees that the party is fast becoming a conservative party due to Tea Party influence and regardless of who is elected conservatives will rule.

157 posted on 10/02/2011 8:08:07 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Bravo Sierra, it DOES have a revenue problem...TOO MUCH REVENUE!

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Yes, the actual numbers involving every spending plan coming out of DC are so preposterous, they seem to be unreal, and hence, nothing to worry about.

Example: While the publicity of Solyndra stinks across the land, the Sec of Energy shovels out another billion or two “before the deadline.”

What was the deadline? The money evaporated if it wasn’t designated by Sept 30, 2011.

voice of Chu: Can’t have that happen!!! Oh, no! Congress said we could spend it!!!! We gotta do it. My friends are waiting for the cash.


158 posted on 10/02/2011 8:09:09 AM PDT by maica
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I think the libs are quite defensive about all the attention our side are getting. Just heard some gal on Christianne talking about how zero has failed and can't lead us out of the quagmire. The rest of the libs are now chiming in about how wonderful the Dear Leader really is even though they know he is incompetent.

George Will just closed with how Rockefeller, the richest guy at the time, could have written a check for the nat.debt. Now the richest guy can't even get close. It got traction. You can tell because Christianne immediately went to a break!!! ABC really does not want to talk about the financial assault the regime has perpetuated on the country. It's just not pc!

159 posted on 10/02/2011 8:17:08 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: altura

Christie doesn’t look as if he’s much more than 5’9” or 5’10”. He’s just round like a bowling ball. Seeing him beside Obama would be a funny picture, both of them a little weird looking physically.

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There is a photo of them together in shirtsleeves on a stage somewhere. It would be comical if we didn’t know who the tall one was.


160 posted on 10/02/2011 8:19:05 AM PDT by maica
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To: rodguy911
We have the tea partiers in Congress to thank. They have not bent. They've shown us what can be done with a little backbone. Tea Partiers and Gov's like Walker in Wis, Nikki Haley, Kusich, even Perry. Many more.

It is another great American Revolution and for that we can thank Obie who seduced the liberal dems to show all their cards. Damn scary!

161 posted on 10/02/2011 8:25:36 AM PDT by chiller ( Obama is nothing more than a professional money launderer)
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To: maica

The White House w/Obie in charge is a slush fund, and Obama is nothing more than a professional money launderer. There can be no doubt.


162 posted on 10/02/2011 8:28:54 AM PDT by chiller ( Obama is nothing more than a professional money launderer)
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To: rodguy911

Hey rodguy911. You were in my neck of the woods. Beautiful this time of year. Glad you enjoyed yourself. Come back anytime.


163 posted on 10/02/2011 8:31:08 AM PDT by animal172 (Please Lord. Come get the liberals.)
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To: TomGuy

Kristol is looking for someone he can work for. This is the same type of deal he pulled back in 2000.

First he went on and on for months about how Colin Powell was the ONLY candidate who could defeat Gore. Then when Powell finally convinced Kristol he wasn’t going to run, Kristol switched to backing McCain.

And when McCain didn’t win in the primaries, Kristol THEN went on a tirade about what a terrible candidate Bush was, how he was lazy, wouldn’t get elected because he mangled words, etc.

I believe this animosity comes from Bush 41’s complete distrust of Kristol as a leaker when Kristol was Quayle’s chief of staff. It got so bad that James Baker barred him from campaign strategy meetings. (Kristol’s “good ideas” included convincing Quayle to oppose Bush 41 on some policy issue and make a big stink, right in the middle of the campaign.)

So Bush got elected, and Quayle spent about 3 months praising him, until it became apparent that Bush 43 wasn’t going to give him a job. He then resumed sniping at the White House and meeting with McCain’s for lunch, hatching plans for McCain to spike Bush’s wheels on various policy matters.

I also believe Kristol instigated the “Jefford’s Jump.”

So, Christie will be pushed and pushed by Kristol until he finally makes it plain he won’t run. Then Kristol will latch onto someone else, except it won’t be Palin, who wouldn’t hire him either. And if Palin or Cain get the nomination, Kristol will snipe from the sidelines fro the next 4 years.


164 posted on 10/02/2011 8:31:58 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: NautiNurse
They are leaving it up to the elite GOP establishment to marginalize true conservatives like Santorum,Bachman and Cain.
A spear to the chest of their enemies is not as satisfying to the evil Left as a knife in the back by their RINO allies.
165 posted on 10/02/2011 8:33:20 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("The Centurions of FR are all just and all merciful--if you get the zot you deserve the zot.")
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To: bray

Face the Nation’s guests were two governors, Haley Barbour and Martin O’Malley, so I tuned in (after McCain) to see why they had been invited. Barbour, in Mississippi, and O’Malley, in MD, were on to discuss Chris Christie. Weird!

Shieffer: Is Christie going to divide the Republican party (after listing all of his pro-lib positions)?
Barbour: Barack Obama is the greatest uniter of the Republican party and increasingly more independents than we have ever had.

Shieffer: Is he too fat?
Barbour: Bob, you have to address that to Gov O’Malley.
MO’M: Christie is good for entertainment value, especially if you like Don Rickles. Then he went on to list every criticism of Christie that has ever crossed the mind of a NJ union person, and said that he was not ‘effectively governing’.

Shieffer said that O’Malley had evaded his question and O’Malley replied, “not evaded, redirected.”

Barbour said that the long prepared ‘redirection’ of the question shows how afraid the Dems are of Christie.

I wish Barbour was back on the national platform as a spokesman for the GOP. He is great.


166 posted on 10/02/2011 8:35:49 AM PDT by maica
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To: rodguy911

I think we have learned from GW who failed to fight back when the left attacked him relentlessly usually lying about what he did or said.


I have heard this reference to Bush 43 from others when I’ve cited my “Just Say Yes” position on the racism accusation.

I don’t acsept it as relevant because Bush often said nothing — like, they’d call him “Hitler” and he’d say nothing.

My position is that he should have said, “OK. I’m Hitler. Now what?”


167 posted on 10/02/2011 8:38:04 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: rodguy911

Your argument of how hard it would be to raise the 9-9-9 plan makes great sense until you factor in the liberal mindset. They would have all those earning less than 50k,then 75k then 100k exempt form some of the 9’s and the poor(their political assets) exempt all together.
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Since a new Congress is never forced to adhere to the legislation passed by previous ones, your rational says we should NEVER bother to pass anything about anything at anytime. What’s the point since the next Congress will amend it or toss it.

Following your logic the only time to pass smaller gov’t legislation is when we can guarantee for life a Conservative president and control of at least 1 of the other chambers.


168 posted on 10/02/2011 8:39:00 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: TomGuy

As Cain was/is a supporter of his friend’s, Boortz, Fair Tax campaign for a long time, maybe this conversation is more about his having an actual plan to debate? As the debate begins, it opens the floor for other plans that would have wider acceptance. Sadly, none of the other candidates have a plan to be debated other than they have a “plan”.

The first move is to get the population to recognize we have to seriously reform/scratch the current code before an honest public debate can begin to affect Congress.


169 posted on 10/02/2011 8:47:06 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: altura

170 posted on 10/02/2011 8:48:44 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: rodguy911

I don’t know that Rita Cosby was a “vaunted journalist.”

I distinctly remember her and another dim bulb, Paula Zahn, both announcing that Gore had won the Supreme Court decision in the Florida recount case. This was while they were still on Fox. They were both breathless and giddy that Gore had won.

Turned out they were reading the dissent instead of the decision. Brit Hume had to send Steve Centanni down to their location to explain it to them.

Rita and Paula darn near caused me to have a heart attack. My only joy was seeing Rita and Paula’s grins turn into sad, frowny faces. HA!

Rita is brainwashed, but it happened a long, long time ago.


171 posted on 10/02/2011 8:49:26 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: Fishtalk

Yes, CC is liberal in so many important areas. But for me, the biggest deal breaker is his fondness (or at best, blind ignorance) regarding Islamists and the dangers of Sharia. (He appointed a Muslim judge and favors the Ground Zero Mosque). This morning, C. Amanpour tried to play gotcha with Herman Cain, quoting CC saying that the fears Cain and other conservatives have voiced about Sharia Law creeping into our country is “just crazy”. Herman stayed calm and said, “well, then, call me crazy”. He handled her well in general, but I keep hoping he’ll get a more in-depth education from the likes of Gabriel, Spencer, Steyn, Horowitz, Geller, Emerson, Babbin, Bolton or any combination thereof so that he can confidently expound on why Islam and Sharia are such dangerous and imminent threats inside this country.

BTW, Herman’s been cancer-free for five years now and beat incredible odds, even according to his doctors :-)


172 posted on 10/02/2011 8:55:44 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: PaleoBob

“OK I’m Hitler, now what?”

Headlines:

Bush Admits He’s Hitler!
Anti-Defamation League Demonstrates at White House!
GOP Policies Revealed as Fascist!
Congressman Weiner Calls for Impeachment!

I understand your point, but a better answer on the criticism Bush got would have been to answer back specifically and with outrage about the charge of lying.

And let’s not forget that the “architect” of this “don’t answer your critics” plan was KARL ROVE.


173 posted on 10/02/2011 8:58:07 AM PDT by Miss Marple (uestioner in contrast.)
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To: maica

Shieffer said that O’Malley had evaded his question and O’Malley replied, “not evaded, redirected.”


Being a direct victim of Martin O’Malley (or, O’Smelly as we comrades here in the Soviet People’s Democratic Republic of Maryland — a post-modern gulag— like to fondly say) I would note that this guy’s mommy told him he could grow up and be president someday if he could sign up enough alien trespassers to vote in the USA.

To this end, Governor O’Sancutary has been issuing drivers licenses (and voter cards) to about 1,800 criminal invaders PER MONTH over the last 2 years+.

I can’t even begin to describe how infested we are with enemy infiltrators here with backgrounds in MS-13, the Mexican drug cartels, al Qaeda, Hamas, the Sandinistas, and so forth. Not to mention Hezbollah and FARC.

—And of course your run of the mill sheep among the wolves who bring in massive social welfare requirements, impending anchor babies, bed bugs, TB, AIDS, unsanitary living pracitices, press 2 for Spanish, press 3 to detonate your suicide vest, etc.

O’Sancutary’s recent great achievement was leading the legislature in passing the in-state tuition scam, the Dream Act, which some of the colleges here have been illegally engaging in anyway. That new “law” resulted in more than 125,000 of us signing a petition that will put this death knell program up for referendum in Nov 2012. This referendum is gonna drive a LOT of people to the polls here so (with apologies to Recovering Hippe and others) we do NOT want Rick Perry’s name anywhere near our ballot—but that’s grist for another mill.

At any rate, O’Panderer will be seeking either the Babs Mulkulski Memorial Seat in the Senate or the 2016 nomination for Prez or Veep, you betcha. ‘Cause mommy said so.


174 posted on 10/02/2011 9:01:42 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: altura

Anyway you cut it its getting interesting!


175 posted on 10/02/2011 9:08:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: chiller

Exactly,finally someone who can’t be bought!


176 posted on 10/02/2011 9:10:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: animal172

I’m sure we will, thanks!


177 posted on 10/02/2011 9:11:15 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Miss Marple

Good analysis of McKristol. He’s just another rino who pretends he’s conservative when he’s not writing for the NYT.


178 posted on 10/02/2011 9:13:35 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: PaleoBob

Won’t be the first time opinions vary on FR.


179 posted on 10/02/2011 9:15:02 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: TomGuy
Have to add Kristol to my tag line. FNC had better get different “right wing” talking heads. The ones they do have, at least for me, are unbearable to watch.
180 posted on 10/02/2011 9:16:13 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol,Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: rodguy911

Only a Lib channel would have Christeeeen on with her fake accent..they love that foreign stuff...Zareek , now Piers Morgan, etc...its either eubonics or a British accent. ha.

I would love it if one of our guys came on christeeens ‘ show and used a Peter Sellars Inspector Clouseau accent!!
“Pferd!”


181 posted on 10/02/2011 9:16:36 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: 101voodoo

That might have been my “rationale” if I had not already pointed to the contrary in several posts.


182 posted on 10/02/2011 9:17:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Fishtalk
So I put up a post about the NBC series "The Sing-Along" I put the link below but please don't click in.

Cause these children took me apart, filling me up with email and on the board they mocked and ridiculed me but so okay, it's all part of the territory and if I deserve ridicule then fine. I tell this anecdote most because there's a lesson of sorts buried within.

HERE

the title of the article is "NBC's The Sing-Off-Time Better Spent Watching Paint Dry".

Well I must have offended every a capella at colleges across the fruited plain and I'm a no good know nothing with questionable academic credentials.

Heh

I paraphrase one email to me "you must have never attended a college with a stellar a capella choral group" and hey, no, I didn't.

So I ponder, what the hell, is this some new kind of standard, a degree from a college with an outstanding a capella choir with such as winning collegiate football teams winning of no import?

In fact I graduated college after a full thirteen years of grueling night school, paid for by my employer that made me take accounting instead of writing, which I do much better.

Those a capella choral groups featured on this NBC series, they work hard at their craft, I give them this. But they strike me as rather spoiled rich kids with time to spare to sport whacky outfits and sing in harmony on the steps to the campus library. But hold your fire, I say this here in the company of those who know my tongue in cheek, goodness I didn't cast aspersions on The Morton Report comment board to all those crucifying me for...guess what? THINKING THE SHOW WAS BORING!!

Well how double damn dare I, they shouted. You think cause you're an alto in a choir that somehow makes me knowledgeable on a capella choirs...they screamed. You don't know who Ben Folds and Sara Bareilles are....you are a heathan....they mocked.

Well yeah, I think being in a choir gives me some insight to the world of choral harmony, the difficulty of singing one tune when the guy next to you is singing another. Not saying it made me an expert but as I saw it, The Sing-Off was going to be viewed probably by a capella choir members, wonderful thoughtful folks they, and I dunno, maybe altos and tenors in church choirs would be more inclined to watch a show about a capella harmonic singing groups then, say, a singer in a rock and roll band. So I consider, as an icon of America that might tune and watch the show...self-appointed I know....that my opinion is worth something.

As for Ben Folds....all I know about Ben Folds is he was the judge for this series last year. He's evidently some bigwig in music so I asked my husband, winner of a nationwide music trivia contest, and all he could say was Ben Fold was some kind of piano player.

Neither criticism, I add now, having anything to do that I THOUGHT THE SHOW WAS BORING! You don't need a degree from an a-cappellaed approved college or have intimate knowledge of Ben Folds and Sara Bareilles to know when you're freaking bored!

But their criticism is fine, is why comments are allowed, except my editor sends me a big alarm email....Pat, something crazy's going on with you post on The Sing-Off...go respond."

Which I did and as I understand, now done with the whole thing, the arguments raged on.

See, if they beat you up enough, if they mock you enough, if they take apart everything germane about you, that which you think gives you insight....THEY WANT TO YOU NOT CRITICIZE! For if you do not criticize.....no one will know this show is boring. As they think, because NBC has this thing going two hours at a viewing and I got a bridge to sell anyone if the average viewer's going to sit for two hours and listen to a bunch of singing groups sing without accompaniment, without much of nothing, save their voices.

Yes they have talent, yes they've probably practiced hard...it's just not the stuff of riveting television.

It's my position and I'm sticking to it. And if you disagree, watch the damn show, God Bless.

183 posted on 10/02/2011 9:18:24 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Thanks x-hippie, just doing my part as far as you can get from the NE.

Yesterday we were complaining how fast our shrubs and trees were growing and I thought, it should grow we’re living in the middle of a rain forest. Now if we can just grow the Conservative movement here it would be heaven.

Pray for America


184 posted on 10/02/2011 9:19:37 AM PDT by bray (Sarah is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: Miss Marple

You busted me,vaunted she was not. I will write it on the blackboard 100 times and never do it again.


185 posted on 10/02/2011 9:20:18 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

LOLOL! I think you have her number.Its zero.
Rumors are she slept with the right ABC exec.


186 posted on 10/02/2011 9:21:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Coulter was a long-time live-in with a Muslim dude. She just picked an easy demographic to sell her books to. Like Arianna Huffington used to be a big conservative and then pivoted on a dime when her sugardaddy dumped her.


187 posted on 10/02/2011 9:27:52 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: rodguy911
She was Peter Jennings live in ho when he was stationed in Lebanon.

Pray for America

188 posted on 10/02/2011 9:33:02 AM PDT by bray (Sarah is hated by the establishment of both Parties. Winner!)
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To: Miss Marple

Thanks for review of Krystol’s treachery. Jogged my memory. Billy is a worm. Got where he is due to a famous daddy (like Ron Reagan).


189 posted on 10/02/2011 9:38:06 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Miss Marple

Thanks for review of Krystol’s treachery. Jogged my memory. Billy is a worm. Got where he is due to a famous daddy (like Ron Reagan).


190 posted on 10/02/2011 9:39:47 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: bray; All
Figures.....

Shannon Bream now talking about European debt crisis on FNC now with Steve Forbes. Not much time devoted to it but at least they brought it up and just how serious it is.

191 posted on 10/02/2011 9:41:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!
thanks, for the ping.
It has really, "Hit the Fan"
.....The (Liberal / RINO :) Ruling Class Elitists, have really boxed themselves (together) in a corner.
CAIN's 9% / 9% / 9% makes more sense than the existing tax codes
.....the added benefits, it starves the
Federal Bureaucracy / Lawmakers of $$$$ / power brokering
to makes it even better-Eliminate
Baseline Budgeting & Constitutional CAP the Federal Share of National GDP-Repeal / scrape the
16 / 17 Constitutional Amendments

192 posted on 10/02/2011 9:42:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: PaleoBob

Great post , and at the end of the day Ann is a northeast corridor “ Republican “ . She hasn’t changed IMHO .


193 posted on 10/02/2011 9:44:26 AM PDT by katykelly
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To: Fishtalk

may we throws in Michelle’s wide-load to photo in #170 for a fair comparison. I mean her hubby is a pixie. Lives off cigs and fries.


194 posted on 10/02/2011 9:44:52 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: rodguy911

So Cheney and his daughter are guests on Candy Crowley and I am surprised. Crowley asks Dick if Bush’s decision on allowing the charge against Scooter Libby go through split them totally apart.

Cheney hemmed and hawed, he said they were not irretrivably torn apart but that decision was a very sore point between them.

Folks, I don’t know if you remember the Valerie Plame/Scooter Libby flap, but dang it was the guy in the state dept....forget his name, buddy of Colin Powell, who released the nothing burger information about Valerie Plame, NOT Scooter Libby...everyone knew this.

Silly me, I think charging a citizen with a phony-baloney charge all for political expediency to be cowardly. That was cowardly of Dubya cause sometimes, damn, you gotta take a stand.

I am surprised that Cheney reacted so viscerally, not that I blame him.

Valerie Plame....a secretary pretending to be a secret spy and a Vice-presidential assistant getting charged with a crime he had nothing to do with....Dubya and his admin....along with Karl Rove I’ve no doubt, shall forever be blackened in my eyes for that lack of backbone.


195 posted on 10/02/2011 9:49:48 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: maica; altura
There is a photo of them together in shirtsleeves on a stage somewhere. It would be comical if we didn’t know who the tall one was.

Laurel and Hardy? Abbott and Costello??

196 posted on 10/02/2011 9:50:59 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (http://www.honorflight.org/)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Mork and Mindy?


197 posted on 10/02/2011 9:55:17 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem

I must admit, that one didn’t cross my mind. LOL


198 posted on 10/02/2011 10:07:10 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (http://www.honorflight.org/)
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To: FreedBird; Alas Babylon!
McCain’s comments are predictable.
He is starved for attention.

**SNICKERING**....
Yes, Yes...We can all hear Juan McPain screaming,
"ITS McCAIN!...ITS McCAIN!...ITS ALL McCAIN!
*unhinged*...its all about ME! ME! ME!
*snarling*.....not (that interloper) Herman CAIN!


199 posted on 10/02/2011 10:10:55 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: Miss Marple

I understand your point, but a better answer on the criticism Bush got would have been to answer back specifically and with outrage about the charge of lying.


Well, you have your take and I have mine. Just nodding when someone calls me a racist has always helped as I’ve nurtured my reputation as an unapologetic white supremicist if otherwise a maniacal Zionist when not a blatent homophobe or a vile misogynist.

You wanna spend your life convincing everyone on the other side of the aisle you’re a liberal on the race thing that’s your business. But I betcha I’ve convinced more of our common opponents that I’m a racist than you’ve convinced opponents you’re not.

Not arguing with you, just sayin.’


200 posted on 10/02/2011 10:14:56 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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