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Rick Perry’s Texas hunting spot's racially charged name lingered. [Wabbit season! Troll season!]
washingtonpost ^ | Oct 1 2011

Posted on 10/02/2011 8:14:14 AM PDT by Staff Of Moses

Paint Creek, Tex. — In the early years of his political career, Rick Perry began hosting fellow lawmakers, friends and supporters at his family’s secluded West Texas hunting camp, a place known by the name painted in block letters across a large, flat rock standing upright at its gated entrance.

“Niggerhead,” it read.

The name of this particular parcel did not change for years after it became associated with Rick Perry, first as a private citizen, then as a state official and finally as Texas governor.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hermancain; niggerhead; perry; racecard; rickperry; zot
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To: SharpRightTurn

Due to this same sensitivity, here in British Columbia we now have a Nig Creek, a China Bar, and Sob Lake; and of course there are no more Squaw this and that.

Yes. Sob Lake was originally Sonofa....Lake.


151 posted on 10/02/2011 11:18:51 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: RitaOK

You are so right Rita.

the Zero zombies are hard at work. LIE CHEAP STEAL, whatever it takes to try to wound Perry.

WAPO lying for the O-Zombies. Figures.

Do you know that the Houston Chronicle actually has a whole section called Perry Presidential. It is nothing but hit pieces on Perry.
I’m going to ask the FEC if this is legal. We’ll see. No other candidates JUST PERRY


152 posted on 10/02/2011 11:22:55 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Clarification - Sob Lake was formerly S.O.B. Lake.


153 posted on 10/02/2011 11:22:55 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Marty62
I emailed ole Mike about this crap. Cain should know better than to take ole mikey’s bait.

I do not get the 'outrage' over Mr. Cain answering a direct question. I have not seen one verifiable suggestion that Mr. Cain is the source leaking a story of the name on the rock. It seems more likely the source is from somebody deep in Texas that does NOT like Perry and what a 'perfect' way for the media to make news. AND I have yet to read the Perry family had anything to do with naming the 'rock', only they RENTED the property. The only 'outrage' I see is the media's attempt once again to make NEWS.

154 posted on 10/02/2011 11:24:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
THANK you for explaining how Mr. Cain got drawn into and viciously attacked on this thread...No, I did not watch Fox News Sunday, but I may have to. Sure sounds like a 'set' up by the Foxes to see what kind of news they could make.

Yes, because everybody knows that you should allow yourself to get drawn into attacking your competition based on a rumor. It's so presidential.

155 posted on 10/02/2011 11:30:37 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("I promise to make Washington inconsequential in your lives" Rick Perry)
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To: McGavin999
Yes, because everybody knows that you should allow yourself to get drawn into attacking your competition based on a rumor. It's so presidential.

What RUMOR? The Perry camp does NOT deny there was a rock named ............ by the PROPERTY owners. But the Perry family did NOT own the 'rock' or its sign. Personally, I find it insulting the media muckrakers thought it was their obligation to ask Cain the question in the first place. I really do not see how else Cain could have answered what he was asked. AND it does seem that somebody did indeed paint over the name.

156 posted on 10/02/2011 11:38:37 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: doodad

Mechanically driven winches of this sort, (Stroudsburg, possibly originally designed for oil field use?) were fairly common on double rig shrimp boats built back in the 60's & 70's. Note also the lower shafts (painted white, in this instance). At the end of those are brake pedals, with a counterweight being visible in the lower foreground. It takes a bit of coordination to operate winches of this sort.

Everybody called the fixtures (to the right in this photo) on the end of the main, central shafts both "niggerhead" or "cathead".

Like many others, I wondered as to the etymology of both terms, noticing they were used interchangeably.

"Cathead" seems to have generally won out over "niggerhead", at least on the West Coast.

157 posted on 10/02/2011 11:40:09 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Just mythoughts
The problem is Cain needs to recognize when he is being used to perpetuate the “Republican is racist” myth.

His initial reaction should always be...”Let's see what the facts are” when it come to this race baiting nonsense.

I like Cain, but he needs to better perceive when he is being set up.

158 posted on 10/02/2011 11:42:28 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: john drake

As Herman Cain said this morning, that is/was “insensitive” and it sounds like Perry took care of it (it’s been painted over.) I’m trying to figure out how it got the name to begin with.... More importantly, when is the black community going to be outraged with rappers who use that word with impunity? I’m waiting.....snooze.

____________________________

It’s a type of rock. Look it up.

Re; Cain
why so surprised anyway?
I knew it would out eventually.

.


159 posted on 10/02/2011 11:46:48 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: All; Staff Of Moses
I was only able to access three of the pages without registration, not the whole piece.

In what I read, they claim to have interviewed varying numbers who claim they saw the rock with the term painted on it but not when.

This is nothing more than an attempt to hit Perry with the race card over a word on a rock on leased property as it was in the 1980s.

Most aren't even from the county of this camp, they declined to be identified, some are said to be Democrats, others Republicans, some supposedly support Perry and others said opposed.

We have the usual, "I knew this would haunt him" comments. In those pages, there's some confirmation the rock was modified as Perry contends and yet they kept writing.

In the game of telephone that passes for news reporting, this property will become Perry's private land, an epithet scrawled by his own hand, from his own lips and he'll be denounced as a closet Klan member obsessed with state's rights because he wants slavery to return.

If Herman Cain doesn't realize when he's being played by the press, he has no business running for the White House. Or if he does know, and feeds the race baiting, he's clearly in Romney's camp.

160 posted on 10/02/2011 11:51:45 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins reelecton.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
The problem is Cain needs to recognize when he is being used to perpetuate the “Republican is racist” myth. His initial reaction should always be...”Let's see what the facts are” when it come to this race baiting nonsense. I like Cain, but he needs to better perceive when he is being set up.

I have no idea what Cain knew or was told before getting this question. From my perspective it was a personal question to poke Cain. AND it just so happens that a 'rental' property rented by the Perry family was the goad used to dig into Cain. See Cain being in republican primaries goes against the whole ideology of liberalism. I have lived somewhere around 30 years in observation of liberalism in action from outside of KCMO proper. I can tell you it is like a criminal enterprise what liberalism has done to so many in the black community. PURE EVIL. Many years ago I had to quit watching the local news because day in day out there was some young black child dead over pure insanity. AND to charge Cain because of his answer, of race baiting does NOT even come close to the reality of what is race baiting.

161 posted on 10/02/2011 11:59:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Staff Of Moses

Bingo


162 posted on 10/02/2011 12:03:05 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: newzjunkey

he’ll be denounced as a closet Klan member
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That has already somewhat happened. Sept 30

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043435/Rick-Perrys-alleged-ties-demon-seeing-KKK-linked-religious-leader-derail-campaign.html


163 posted on 10/02/2011 12:04:17 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: jivin gene

Right now, I’m more concerned about Chris Chistie than Perry’s hunting club.

The Guy is dangerous. He is a solid lib with conservative fiscal leanings - sort of. But he is taking notes and studying. He may be obstinate, rude and a bully, but he’s hardly stupid.

He’s looking at the mistakes the others made and preparing himself. He will try to finesse himself out of the problems with gun control (Look, I have no problem with people Hunting or using weapons to protect themselves where there is no police presence) and with the illegals (doing that already), the Muslims, global warming and the entire baggage load of garbage in his background.


164 posted on 10/02/2011 12:08:18 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: newzjunkey

I’m shocked that so many people know about a sign painted on a large rock in the middle of nowhere. That sign has to be at least 10-15 miles off of a paved road.

It’s not exactly a luxurious hunting camp. Each little cabin looks like a small storage building. I seriously doubt they have any deer in the area this year at all due to the drought. I know for sure that the river next to the camp is completely dry.


165 posted on 10/02/2011 12:11:23 PM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: Just mythoughts

A thoughtful man would have said something like “I’d like to look into this a little before I comment on something like this but I’ll get back to you on this later”. See, not hard to do at all. He’s done it serveral times in the past, only not when it pertained to Perry.


166 posted on 10/02/2011 12:17:05 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I promise to make Washington inconsequential in your lives" Rick Perry)
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To: Just mythoughts

Agreed. My only question is that Cain had to know that mike was trying to USE HIM as a way to paint Perry as some sort of Racist.


167 posted on 10/02/2011 12:18:57 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: McGavin999
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2786268/posts

Cain had NOTHING to do with Perry's rental property. But he did tick off the liberals last week by using that word ‘brainwashed’. So the liberal media decided to ‘test’ Cain to see how he would handle what most assuredly is perceived to be the ‘racist’ party by using what somebody deep in Texas decided to ‘share’ with the Wcompost.

168 posted on 10/02/2011 12:23:39 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Cain is not doing the race-baiting...he is being used by the race-baitters and sympathizers.
169 posted on 10/02/2011 12:25:19 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: All

my tinfoil:

The media wants to paint the GOP as racist and Perry is their ticket and they have tried it with Palin and continue to do it.

There’s this story, the KKK story and the Ted Nugent story.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/0811/Nugent_giddy_about_Perry_run.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043435/Rick-Perrys-alleged-ties-demon-seeing-KKK-linked-religious-leader-derail-campaign.html

There was a story yesterday on Palin being racist, but it really boggled the mind (I *think* that story had a picture of Palin with Nugent, too...they’ve painted Nugent racist, sooo).

Joe McGinniss claims Palin slept with a black man but then claims she is racist. There are several old stories where they’ve tried to paint Palin as racist.

www.laprogressive.com/progressive-issues/is-sarah-palin-a-racist-well-she-ended-our-conversation-when-she-learned-i-was-black/

I also think perhaps media expected by letting out *particular* tidbits from McGinniss, then questioning *particular* sports figures about it, expecting conservatives to go after the black angle.

I think the media is working overtime using GOP candidates to try and paint the whole of GOP as racist. It’s nasty and slimy.

/tinfoil


170 posted on 10/02/2011 12:40:08 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: Irenic
slimy slimey
171 posted on 10/02/2011 12:46:16 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: Just mythoughts
"My reaction is, that's just very insensitive," Cain told Fox. "[There] isn't a more vile, negative word than the N-word, and for him to leave it there as long as he did, before I hear that they finally painted over it, is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country."

Really? Cain had plenty to say about Perry without even knowing the facts. Race baiting at it's finest. Talk about a smear against a good man and his family!

172 posted on 10/02/2011 12:55:46 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I promise to make Washington inconsequential in your lives" Rick Perry)
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To: john drake

That term, xxxhead, was the name of a wild flower common to Texas. That name goes back over a century. I think the same flower was also called a xxxtoe.


173 posted on 10/02/2011 1:11:55 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Gator113

Help me out here. We are to proclaim Christ but not in a way that would endanger anyone? Is that what I’m to take from this? We should stand up for Christ but not overtly lest we be put in danger or endanger someone else? Did I miss where Christ instructed us to covertly spread His word or stand up for Him? I distinctly remember the stand up and proclaim Him publicly or He would deny us meme.


174 posted on 10/02/2011 2:53:32 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

What in the hell are you babbling about??

Never mind, I don’t really want to know.


175 posted on 10/02/2011 3:01:47 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Gator113

Ok, that was embarrassing. Would you believe I had a window open to mention to you that it’s rather funny watching Perry have to endure what Palin has had to go through for years now and I accidentally pasted in a post I had ready for another thread? ROFL I can imagine you would be rather stunned getting that post. Is sorry good enough?


176 posted on 10/02/2011 3:38:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: doodad
I used to run a large band saw in a sawmill, the rig was known as simply a rig or a head rig if it was the main rig, the device we used to turn the logs while sawing them was called a "nigger". No one knew exactly why, but in the middle 90s someone decided we needed to go PC and they instructed us to call it a log turner.

I am assuming it got it's original name back in the day when they used men to turn the logs after the sawyer made the initial cuts. The men were probably blacks, hence the name. We never thought about it one way or another until the company made a big deal out of it, to us it was simply a name for a tool.

177 posted on 10/02/2011 4:11:18 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Clara Lou

When I was a kid everyone I knew called Brazil Nuts “niggertoes”, but no longer. BTW, nice show of fear the way you xxed the word nigger out. I don’t use the word and haven’t since I was about 10 years old but when talking about a subject like this there is no harm in using it since we are not meaning it in a derogatory manner. Fear is to be avoided, kowtowing to the PC crowd is also to be avoided.


178 posted on 10/02/2011 4:16:06 PM PDT by calex59
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To: CynicalBear

You are forgiven. ;<)


179 posted on 10/02/2011 4:31:07 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: org.whodat
Yes, a troll slipped out there forty are fifty years ago and painted the rock. Someone is telling one, paint on a rock lying flat will not last ten years, unless someone comes by and repaints it occasionally.

Lie. I can show you paint on rocks that was put there in the 1850s when Wagon trains crossed the Sierras. The paint is still there and readable, and it has been a he** of a lot longer than 10 years. Graffiti is nothing new, people liked painting there names on rocks back in the day also.

180 posted on 10/02/2011 4:41:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Really?? Show of fear?? Nice assumptions on your part. Who do I have to “fear” here? I like not to use such words so as to give outsiders who come and do searches few hits. You never know how they’ll twist them. I mean...look at what’s just happened to Rick Perry on this very thread.


181 posted on 10/02/2011 4:44:18 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: magritte

Just because Perry is not some freepers chosen candidate doesn’t make them trolls because they disagree with him. But he does think us conservatives are heartless....and that tax payer money should educate illegal aliens. Its not the taxpayers fault that their parents brought them here....


182 posted on 10/02/2011 6:09:33 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Staff Of Moses; 50mm; TheOldLady

183 posted on 10/03/2011 11:36:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Staff Of Moses; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ..
Another troll, Staff of Moses, gets the ZOT.

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104.

184 posted on 10/03/2011 5:45:55 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: McGavin999

They are terrwified of him. They are picking on all of them.

Well, not Mutt.


185 posted on 10/03/2011 5:51:19 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Riodacat
Shows early signs of a lack of judgement and political savvy and that can't be good for him in the long run. Hopefully there are not other unknowns in the wood pile to come out and bite him in the ass.

You are talking about Cain's response...or you need to read the article that explains all this nonsense.

186 posted on 10/03/2011 5:51:36 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Riodacat
Shows early signs of a lack of judgement and political savvy and that can't be good for him in the long run. Hopefully there are not other unknowns in the wood pile to come out and bite him in the ass.

You are talking about Cain's response...or you need to read the article that explains all this nonsense.

187 posted on 10/03/2011 5:52:05 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Staff Of Moses

188 posted on 10/03/2011 5:52:23 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Staff Of Moses; 50mm

Buh Bye!
189 posted on 10/03/2011 5:59:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: 50mm

190 posted on 10/03/2011 6:00:40 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking time on the government's dime...)
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To: Clara Lou

Indeed


191 posted on 10/03/2011 6:08:26 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Staff Of Moses; Arrowhead1952; 50mm; darkwing104; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; ...
So long, Staff of Moses, you snake. (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Arrowhead1952 and 50mm

Race baiting troll gets barbecued to falling-off-the-bone perfection so the Viking Kitties can try my new hot sauce recipe




Nobody here cares about what color you are



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

192 posted on 10/03/2011 6:16:41 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Staff Of Moses

This is the biggest pile of steamin’ bullsh!t ever...and I’m not even a Perry fan.

They only leased the property to go hunting. When you lease property from somebody do YOU immediately set out painting parts of it?


193 posted on 10/03/2011 6:28:22 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: TheOldLady; Staff Of Moses
Looks like the Staff got the well deserved Shaft and Perry's not my first choice. He had a short stay at FR.

Kitty

194 posted on 10/03/2011 6:34:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I love your happy-looking kitteh!

He had a short stay, but he was long winded. ;-)


195 posted on 10/03/2011 6:48:50 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

” Race baiting troll gets barbecued to falling-off-the-bone perfection so the Viking Kitties can try my new hot sauce recipe “

I DON’T THINK I WILL RELISH IT,

But.......Z O T !!

LOL!


196 posted on 10/03/2011 6:58:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Ah, good evening, my friend. At least the troll didn't turn into Liquid Smoke!

And ZOT back atcha, sweetie pie.

Did you see my new toy? Profile page, scroll all the way down.

197 posted on 10/03/2011 7:03:31 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Heartless” and “don’t like them because their name sounds different” is the race card as played by Perry


198 posted on 10/03/2011 7:05:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: TheOldLady

I love you too........sweet bay-bay...........

and the day your account is suspended, is the day I............aw heck......I don’t know WHAT I would do....LOL!!


199 posted on 10/03/2011 7:09:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: RipSawyer
Good suggestions but shouldn’t it be “Slick Willie Canyon”?

That fits Monica to a tee.

Give that man a cigar.

200 posted on 10/03/2011 7:09:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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