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Perry camp pushes back against report of racial epithet at rental hunting site (NOT owned by Perry)
msnbc ^ | 10/2/2011 | Carrie Dann

Posted on 10/02/2011 3:58:45 PM PDT by tobyhill

Gov. Rick Perry's team pushed back Sunday on a Washington Post story charging that a racial epithet was displayed for decades on a hunting property leased by the Texas governor's family.

Perry's team says that the governor's father Ray painted over the name -- a holdover from the area's long cowboy culture -- in the early 1980s. That conflicts with the account of a total of seven sources -- who spoke on the condition of anonymity -- who told the Post that the offensive name of the hunting grounds was written on a flat slab of rock at the entrance to the property and was visible during the 1980s and 1990s when Perry launched his political career. One source said the word could be seen as late as 2008.

In a response to First Read, Perry Communications Director Ray Sullivan disputed the accuracy of those accounts.

"The rock was obscured in 1983 or 1984 and remained so," he said. "Named interviewees in the story corroborate that. The story has no named sources seeing the name on the rock in later 80s and 90s claim and those unnamed sources contradict one another."

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Please explain to me how it is insensitive to paint over an offensive word? If I were a man of African descent I would be saying that Perry’s father did a good and noble thing.


81 posted on 10/02/2011 6:01:55 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter Hobbit)
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To: tobyhill
Also: An antiquaited logging and trucking term used to define a large round rock or outcropping of rocks usually on an unpaved road bed that could damage a vehicle.

Actually, there was a peak of the same name in Australia. The name was changed in 2008. The Aborgines protested the name change. There were a number of geographic locations with the same name that were changed prior to this.

82 posted on 10/02/2011 6:03:23 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (The terrorists attacked us--and don't you forget it!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
What did Perry do that was “insensitive”? We know Cain was referring to Perry's use of that land which he didn't even own.

I don't need to examine myself because I refuse to walk on egg shells.

Before I get lectured to, that person lecturing me better make sure their backyard is clean.

83 posted on 10/02/2011 6:03:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: not2worry

Cain is the one who pretended to be offended.


84 posted on 10/02/2011 6:04:08 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

This is Perry’s issue, not anybody else’s, yet his boosters still make it about Herman Cain. This is a competition here. If Mr. Cain is expected to defend Rick Perry every time he made a fool of himself, well that’s a full time job in itself.


85 posted on 10/02/2011 6:10:50 PM PDT by Cu Roi
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
“My reaction is, that's just very insensitive,” Cain told Fox. “[There] isn't a more vile, negative word than the N-word, and for him to leave it there as long as he did, before I hear that they finally painted over it, is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country.”

Longtime hunters, cowboys and ranchers said the place was known by the name as long as they could remember, the Post reported. The name on the rock was given to mountains, creeks and rock outcroppings across the country in earlier times, the Post report said.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44747781/ns/politics-decision_2012/

Perry didn't own the land and Cain is saying Perry is insensitive. If Clinton “owned” a land under that name then he would be scrutinized but again, Perry didn't own the land, he hunted on it and his dad painted over the offensive rock.

86 posted on 10/02/2011 6:19:34 PM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: Cu Roi

What issue? Perry hunted on land where someone, not Perry, not his father, painted the word Niggerhead (the name of a flower btw) on a rock. In what universe is does this disqualify him from being President?


87 posted on 10/02/2011 6:25:15 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Cain has been through this situation hundreds, if not thousands of times. He said “insensitive” ~ and it’s possible to be “sensitive” to the concerns of others even if you don’t share those concerns.


88 posted on 10/02/2011 6:25:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tobyhill

This isn’t about rap artists???!!!...

or “institutional racism,” which has been around since America was founded, and a topic I can take you to task on!

But I won’t draw attention away from the real issue, unlike what you, some others on these posts, and the liberal media are trying to do! I will focus on Cain’s TRUTHFUL answer!

Cain’s answer was a TRUTHFUL answer...HE IS A MAN OF COLOR! You did not hear him say Rick Perry was a racist and he NEVER leveled any racist charges against him! He merely pointed out, from “his perspective,” that it is insensitive! Period!

This whole thing is a diversion...the media just stirring the racism pot and MANY of you are blindly falling for it!!! The media will do ANYTHING to keep the candidates from focusing on the failures of Obama!!! Wake-up and examine your own selves and your own comments!!!


89 posted on 10/02/2011 6:34:15 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: tobyhill

“Perry didn’t own the land”

I’ve seen that argument and it’s really weak. So because he didn’t actually own the land, it was OK to drive past a sign on a rock that someone had painted “Niggerhead” on?
Short anecdote: as a military family, my own family traveled a lot through the south in the early `60s. This was before interstate highways and franchises.
We were very hungry late one afternoon and stopped at some small restaurant off a two lane road. My father saw something on the door and shooed us all back the car.
Later I asked him what happened and he said the sign said `Private Club, We Reserve the Right etc. etc.’ and we weren’t eating there.
He was the only cadet in his class willing to share his tent with one of the first black cadets at old Oklahoma A&M, and caught some flak for it. He was also one of the few to get a regular Army commission.
Back on topic, we weren’t renting that restaurant. He just refused to even eat in a place that denied service to his fellow troopers.
If Perry’s father painted over the sign before agreeing to rent the place, good on him but that’s not the way I read it, especially when their actions are excused by, “Well, they were just renting.”
And this about Perry. Leave Cain out of it. All you Perriers are the ones making something out of it.


90 posted on 10/02/2011 6:35:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Reagan Man

Chris Wallace and Cain are all for Romney. Consequently they are trying to tar Perry and hope some of this BS sticks.


91 posted on 10/02/2011 6:35:08 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: tobyhill
I am not a fan of Rick Perry, but this is ridiculous.

Anyone notice the BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE UNDER HUSSEIN?? Jackass Hussein tells blacks to take off their slippers, so the media has to find another DIVERSION from Hussein's EPIC FAILURE.

92 posted on 10/02/2011 6:36:13 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: tobyhill

Cain’s answer was a TRUTHFUL answer...HE IS A MAN OF COLOR! You did not hear him say Rick Perry was a racist and he NEVER leveled any racist charges against him! He merely pointed out, from “his perspective,” that it is insensitive! Period!

This whole thing is a diversion...the media just stirring the racism pot and MANY of you are blindly falling for it!!! The media will do ANYTHING to keep the candidates from focusing on the failures of Obama!!! Wake-up and examine your own selves and your own comments!!!


93 posted on 10/02/2011 6:37:31 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: DManA
What issue? Perry hunted on land where someone, not Perry, not his father, painted the word Niggerhead (the name of a flower btw) on a rock. In what universe is does this disqualify him from being President?

If it's not an issue, why have you posted to this thread so many times? And no this doesn't disqualify him from being President; it's his debate performances that did him in in my book.

Oh, by the way, when's that movie "Incendiary: The Willingham Case" coming out?

94 posted on 10/02/2011 6:38:32 PM PDT by Cu Roi
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To: Cu Roi

I’ve posted because this is a thread to discuss issues. Don’t you understand that?


95 posted on 10/02/2011 6:44:13 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
“Mr. Sullivan added that neither the governor nor his family ever “owned, controlled or managed” the property, which he said was owned by a Texas charity called the Hendrick Home for Children. A Hendrick employee said on Sunday that she was not aware of the name and referred questions to her boss, who did not respond to a phone call seeking comment.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/us/politics/perrys-link-to-n-word-place-name-puts-campaign-on-defensive.html

Cain pointed out how he didn't feel Perry responded fast enough in covering the rock and that was “insensitive” but again, Perry didn't own the land.

96 posted on 10/02/2011 6:45:40 PM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: DManA

What I don’t understand is in my response to use of the word “issue”, you say “What issue?”, and now you are saying that “this is a thread to discuss issues”. Either something is an issue, or it is not an issue.


97 posted on 10/02/2011 6:48:20 PM PDT by Cu Roi
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To: Cu Roi

Quote you “This is Perry’s issue,” unquote.


98 posted on 10/02/2011 6:51:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: tumblindice

We’ll leave Cain out of it when he stops commenting on something he has no facts on.


99 posted on 10/02/2011 6:51:37 PM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

Cain pulled the race card.
Why are we surprised?
I knew it would come out sooner or later.


100 posted on 10/02/2011 6:51:37 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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