Posted on 10/03/2011 6:42:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
RE: Of course he isn’t. But if he is naive enough to fall for that trick from the media, he is too naive to successfully run
Need we be reminded that he successfully turned around two failed franchises to make them profitable again and was at the forefronf of the battle against Hillarycare ( which eventually stopped it )? That’s being naive?
I am not comparing the standing of thje two, but I think, it goes tot he heart of the attitude we all have when it comes to pur candidates -— WE ANTT THEM TO BE PERFECT IN EVERY WAY, KNOWING THAT THEY ARE NOT. If Ronald Reagan made mistakes in his career ( and they were plenty ), Herman Cain will also.
Ron Paul wins straw polls all the time. He's never going to be President. Michelle Bachmann won the Ames poll by a wide margin, and promply dropped from view. Lots of candidates have done well in polls for a while but failed to sustain a competitive campaign. Cain is fated to be one of them.
Candidates don't win nominations any more than quarterbacks win conference titles. It takes takes a team to win a title and it takes an elaborate campaign apparatus to win a major party nomination. Cain hasn't got one and can't get one. To build the requisite apparatus you need to be a major political player for years. Cain doesn't qualify. Game Over.
That's why nobody remotely comparable to Herman Cain has ever been either the Republican or Democrat nominee for President in anything resembling modern times. Every nominee has been a major political player before they ran for President. Even Wendell Wilke was a prominent Roosevelt critic before 1940. Besides, he only got the GOP nod because, with war breaking out, the Republican establishment wouldn't put forward an isolationist which ruled out Senators Vandenburg and Taft. The only other candidate, 38 year old Manhattan DA Thomas E. Dewey, was even less established as a political player than Wilke. Wendell Wilke was a last resort. With Romney and Perry in the race, Cain won't have that advantage and without that advantage his campaign is going nowhere.
I realize this is a bitter truth. Cain makes an attractive political fantasy, but it is just a fantasy. Have your fun for a little while, but we have to return to reality soon.
Romney or Perry, take your pick.
“Bitter Truth”
You think pretty highly of your opinions!!! LOL
I guess time will tell :-)
You’re speaking of Palin and Rubio, I guess.
Well, I will make a choice but it won’t be Cain.
The MSM has so much to jump on him about but I planned to ignore it.
However, this racist thing has totally put me off the fellow. Sorry, maybe it’s petty, but I don’t think so.
I think it’s far more important than the tuition for illegals or the gardisal thing.
He’s just revealed himself as black first and willing to pander to that segment of the population even though it means making an unfair slam on a fellow republican.
First off, I am a Santorum guy. He doesn't get involved in race hustling. Secondly, it is going to hurt Cain. If this is his tactic to move up in the polls, I am not interested and I'm sure I am not the only one. Cain seems insistent on saying stupid stuff. Remember the whole muslim thing and the lame apology? This is a straight up economy election. That is the only thing he should be focused on right now. GOP base voters have been pretty clear on that.
The drama! Please. Everyone knows you never supported Cain.
You’ve just found a talking point to use is all. I’m a white woman and I find the term offensive.
If the land had been titled “b*tch-head” and he said it was insensitive to women, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Cain was merely expressing his opinion, not pandering. Pandering is when a candidate calls his base heartless because they don’t want to pay tuition for illegals.
Until yesterday, Cain was the ONLY candidate for me. I’ll wait and see how he deals with this.
Well, sure. But I hope that Cain will learn from his mistakes, as Reagan did. And the first step is to be made aware of the mistake.
I know that pointing out Cain's error here will hurt him, and I regret that. But it will do no one any good if we all just look the other way and pretend it didn't happen, or if we just blame the interviewer.
All politicians, even the ones we like, must be held accountable. The trick is to hold your favorites accountable without damaging them too much in the process.
“Well, I will make a choice but it won’t be Cain.”
So you’re a Perry supporter then?
I’m sorry you feel hurt that Cain isn’t pandering to you.
I don’t expect Cain to pander to me. But I don’t want him to pander to political correctness or to the 30% of the black vote he thinks he can get.
I was all out for Cain — admittedly as my third choice — until he did this on Sunday.
Unforgiveable.
Hobbits for Herman!
“I was all out for Cain — admittedly as my third choice”
Somehow I don’t believe you. I wonder why.
Anyways, I’m sorry Cain doesn’t pander to you, because I’m sure that’s his top priority in an election campaign.
Everyone knows that I never supported Cain? That’s interesting in view of the fact that I did support him.
What in the world do you think the term, ‘n-head’ means?
It doesn’t make any sense as a possible reference to a person of color.
It has been plainly explained as a reference to the common name for a wildflower that grew profusely in Texas ... still does but with another name.
I am not having a conversation with you, as you suggest, because you haven’t listened to a word I’ve typed.
The B word (which I’ve actually been called on occasion) has nowhere near the significance to women as the n-word has to blacks (unless, of course, they are using it to each other)
It’s not a talking point with me, it’s a heartfelt conviction and I shall continue posting my opinion on it every time it comes up.
BTW, who doesn’t find the term offensive? That’s a red herring. Who ever used the term?
Facts aren’t relevant, sadly. The fact that he attacked Perry is going to get the Perry supporters ruffled. But at least we know who supports Perry more then Cain. This is a pretty good test.
Well, I don’t really care whether you believe me or not.
However, it happens to be true. He was not my first choice, but he was gaining momentum with me.
I think this is a core issue. It concerns me and scares me.
Maybe you should think about it a little more seriously, yourself.
“Who ever used the term?”
Perry, apparently.
Anyways, show me a post, prior to today where you mentioned your support of Cain.
Can you please show me where the term was explained to be referring to a flower in the interview with Cain?
I wonder if you all don’t recognize the irony - all of you finding Cain’s comments so “insensitive” towards Perry. Are you candidate baiting?
How is what Cain said any different than what Palin said about Rush using the word “retard”?
I totally get why Palin would say that, given her background. Just as I totally understand Cain said what he said, given his growing up in the segregated South.
“Well, I don’t really care whether you believe me or not.”
And we really don’t care that you get the vapors when Cain attacks Perry.
“However, it happens to be true. He was not my first choice, but he was gaining momentum with me.”
We have no way of verifying this, I hope you understand our skepticism. Someone who’s never said anything positive about Cain, suddenly jumps out and says, “I would have supported him, but...”
“I think this is a core issue.”
According to whom? You?
“It concerns me and scares me.”
Why on earth would it scare you?
“Maybe you should think about it a little more seriously, yourself.”
How about, no? Unlike you, I’ve been following Cain since he announced and I looked into him and his record.
Perry, on the other hand, I spent time over the last few years fighting his Gardasil nonsense. He was willing to sign over young women to be guinea pigs for Merck.
Do you know how many young women have died from the untested drug? Perry was going to make it mandatory before people stepped in and said no.
THAT frightens me.
You're right. And I'm amazed that you are being criticized so harshly for pointing this out. Cain made a mistake. And so he needs to do a little course-correction work here.
Oh, and to save some folks some typing time, I've never liked Perry, and I still think Cain has a lot to offer.
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