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Herman Cainís attack on Rick Perry was a mistake
The Daily Caller ^ | October 3, 2011 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 10/03/2011 8:46:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

After Sunday’s Washington Post reported that Texas Governor Rick Perry had utilized a Texas hunting camp named “Niggerhead,” GOP candidate Herman Cain (a former pizza exec. and the only black candidate running for the GOP presidential nomination) wasted little time in accusing Perry of being insensitive to racial issues.

“Since Gov. Perry has been going there for years to hunt,” Cain told ABC’s “This Week,” think that it shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and renaming the place.”

When anchor Christiane Amanpour pushed back — noting that the rock had actually been painted over — Cain doubled-down, saying: “But how long ago was it painted over? So I’m still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity.’’

(Cain made similar comments on Fox News Sunday — demonstrating that this was not a gaffe made in response to a question that simply caught him off guard.)

In a prepared release, Perry Campaign Communications Director Ray Sullivan responded to Cain’s attack, saying: “Mr. Cain is wrong about the Perry family’s quick action to eliminate the word on the rock, but is right the word written by others long ago is insensitive and offensive. That is why the Perrys took quick action to cover and obscure it.”

Sullivan reiterated that the rock had been painted and turned over, and that “The Perrys did not own, name or control the property, they simply rented hunting rights to 1,000 acres of the ranch.”

My take? Cain’s comments were — at best – premature — and at worst, highly irresponsible. It was a cheap shot, and, perhaps is a signal that Cain is willing to play the race card against a fellow Republican when it benefits him.

The fact that Cain spoke out so soon — basing his comments on a newly-posted and thinly-sourced article published by an outlet many conservatives believe to have a liberal bias — speaks to Cain’s lack of political judgment.

This isn’t the first time Cain’s penchant for talking has gotten him in trouble, but in this instance, Cain has aided and abetted those who wish to portray southern conservatives as racists. In so doing, Cain provides cover for anyone wishing to cast Perry as such.

Just last week, Sarah Palin noted that “Herb” Cain was the “flavor of the week.” By siding with the Washington Post and Al Sharpton — against a fellow Republican who appears to have done nothing wrong — Cain might just have proven Palin right.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; hermancain; msm; perry; perrywinkles; racecard; racism
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But the MSM is satisfied because no matter the source or the truth of the charge, it will be a "conservative" that took out Perry.

Will Herman Cain’s Reaction To ‘N*ggerhead’ Controversy Hurt Him With Conservative Base?................... "It’s early yet, but this controversy is shaping up to be the stake through the heart of Perry’s already-troubled campaign. Even conservatives who side with Perry will likely have to concede that cutting through the thick cloud of coverage around this promises diminishing returns. What are the chances that anyone is going to come out of the woodwork to defend their trips to camp “N*ggerhead” with Rick Perry?

If Perry is, indeed, finished, then the blame for his demise falls squarely on Herman Cain’s shoulders. While the Post‘s reporting was solid, there were solid grounds for criticism, especially from a conservative base that’s already suspicious of mainstream journalism. Cain’s denunciation effectively destroyed that line of defense, and placed the story into a Republican-on-Republican frame that’s a no-win for conservatives. Allowing Perry to go down in flames will reinforce mainstream notions about conservatives and race, but so will attacking Herman Cain.".....

1 posted on 10/03/2011 8:46:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t think it was an ‘attack’ at all

I think Herman Cain just correctly pointed out something factual

No biggie

More MSM presstitutes trying to stir up the GOP


2 posted on 10/03/2011 8:49:45 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: All; shield
Video at 2:26 [Sunday] Herman Cain on ABC to Christiane Amanpour:...."I know you won't say the word Christiane, so I'll say it for you".......... and he did and hung it on Rick Perry.
3 posted on 10/03/2011 8:50:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mr. K
I think Herman Cain just correctly pointed out something factual

I guess I'm stupid.

Give me the facts.

4 posted on 10/03/2011 8:51:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cain was asked about a false story that was presented as fact.

Cain’s response was with regard to the facts.

The media is responsible for a false story, not Cain.

If someone said to me that Cincinatus’ Wife has posted she dislikes Herman Cain because he is black, I would say that is racist and not a conservative thing to post.

My job is not to investigate the facts myself.


5 posted on 10/03/2011 8:53:00 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (FReepers assemble into a circular firing squad while Romney gets coronated.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

On the one hand, this non-issue will not affect my judgment of either Mr. Cain or Gov. Perry. I only hope both will still be on the ballot when the NC primary finally rolls around ...

On the other hand, I’ve had it up to the eyeballs with “sensitivity.” Grow up, everyone.


6 posted on 10/03/2011 8:53:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Skip the election and let Thomas Sowell choose the next President.)
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To: Mr. K

It actually wasn’t factual, because he was implying that Perry knew about it and left it there - and then he admitted he actually didn’t know what Perry had done about it or when he had done it.

I don’t think this was malicious, I just think it shows up Cain’s lack of political experience. He has some good ideas, but I don’t think he could ever carry them out, simply because he knows nothing about being a political figure (a governor, a senator, etc.). He’d be better in the Cabinet or perhaps in some other position this time around, and that would give him time to learn the ropes.


7 posted on 10/03/2011 8:53:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t care what was painted on some rock at a hunting camp. I’m concerned that illegal aliens are being coddled and given special taxpayer-paid benefits instead of deported to their country of origin, as the law requires.
That’s the deal breaker.


8 posted on 10/03/2011 8:54:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Mr. K
It was an attack.

When anchor Christiane Amanpour pushed back — noting that the rock had actually been painted over — Cain doubled-down, saying: “But how long ago was it painted over? So I’m still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity.’’

I don't like race attacks. I'm supporting Perry but I took off a few days after that idiotic remark about being heartless piled on to his last name statements. I threw GWB overboard for the same kind of statement and the only reason I haven't Perry because I don't see an alternative. Romney's unacceptable and the rest don't have a chance. But Cain is no better with this comment.

9 posted on 10/03/2011 8:55:08 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yawn. It’s only Oct 3 - thank goodness. I hope our candidates can get the kinks out before America really starts paying attention.


10 posted on 10/03/2011 8:55:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No, the Perry Camp shameless demagoguery about it, thus keeping the name of the family hunting camp in the headlines, is the mistake.

Cain was asked a question. He answered it. The Perry camp's attempt to turn an embarrassing error in Perry's past into an attack issue on Cain is the mistake.

It merely keeps the issue alive to Perry's determent

11 posted on 10/03/2011 8:55:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Mr. K
I don’t think it was an ‘attack’ at all. I think Herman Cain just correctly pointed out something factual

I agree. Having said that he probably should have just said he didn't have enough facts to comment. I'm not sure how well informed he was on this.

12 posted on 10/03/2011 8:56:40 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And I note that everyone in the MSM is still referring to this place as “Perry’s ranch”—does no one understand the concept of a HUNTING LEASE? It wasn’t, and isn’t, Perry’s ranch. He has a hunting lease there. Someone else owns it.

I’m done with Cain. Just another race baiter, it seems.


13 posted on 10/03/2011 8:57:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cain has aided and abetted those who wish to portray southern conservatives as racists. In so doing, Cain provides cover for anyone wishing to cast Perry as such.

This is the important take-away here. Cain flipped the finger to Reagan's 11th commandment and in so doing, gave Obama and Sharpton ammo to push the "Tea Party = Racist" lie.

Cain is categorically not ready for the big leagues. The spotlight was only on him for a matter of HOURS before he blundered and gave HUGE ammo to our opponents.

14 posted on 10/03/2011 8:58:11 AM PDT by sklar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t care what was painted on some rock at a hunting camp. I’m concerned that illegal aliens are being coddled and given special taxpayer-paid benefits instead of deported to their country of origin, as the law requires. That’s the deal breaker.

You can that again, and again and again!

15 posted on 10/03/2011 8:59:06 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Mr. K
The fact that Cain spoke out so soon — basing his comments on a newly-posted and thinly-sourced article published by an outlet many conservatives believe to have a liberal bias — speaks to Cain’s lack of political judgment.

BINGO!

I will not vote for Cain in the primary.

16 posted on 10/03/2011 8:59:10 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If Perry is, indeed, finished, then the blame for his demise falls squarely on Herman Cain’s shoulders.

No, it a falls squarely on Perry and his supporters for the grotesque incompetence as campaigners.

Running around hysterically screaming at everyone else for their candidates incompetence on the campaign trail is the sort of behavior Conservatives are use to seeing from the Left.

When we see supposed candidates on our side adopting the Leftist campaign tactics, we have to wonder what he is trying to hide.

17 posted on 10/03/2011 9:00:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here was a chance for Perry to look Presidential.

Instead, of FACTS we get HEARTLESS racism against
Mr. Cain.

FACTS. They are as weak as the “attacks” on
Obama and RINO Romney.

Perry is not able. Cain is able.


18 posted on 10/03/2011 9:01:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: MizSterious

Yeah, Cain should have investigated all the candidates so that he was aware of their property holdings well in advance. /s


19 posted on 10/03/2011 9:01:25 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Mr. K

He did not point out a fact. He interpreted facts as proof of a personality defect in Perry.

Cain stupidly fell for the MSM prostitutes invitation to stir up the GOP.


20 posted on 10/03/2011 9:01:43 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

By this logic, every location in the south is off limits. If someone once did something wrong in any location, then it can never again be used.


21 posted on 10/03/2011 9:01:43 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Mr. Cain is wrong about the Perry family’s quick action to eliminate the word on the rock, but is right the word written by others long ago is insensitive and offensive. That is why the Perrys took quick action to cover and obscure it.”

So your own campaign admits Mr Cain was right.

Really stupid of the Perry camp to be keeping this issue alive.

22 posted on 10/03/2011 9:02:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I like Cain, but lost some respect for him as a potential nominee over the past two days because of these twin gaffes.


23 posted on 10/03/2011 9:02:15 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Mr. K

It was an attack. One of the worst, in fact. Very little that has been said about this HUNTING LEASE (not the same thing as owning the ranch) is factual, actually. I’m tired of this cheap shotting and race baiting. Let Cain join arms with Sharpton and Jackson. I’m done with him, unless he apologizes.


24 posted on 10/03/2011 9:02:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Agreed. He should have couched it as “if it was as claimed in this report, but I understand Perry disputes the circumstances and I know of no other reason to even entertain the idea that he is racist in any way.”

The lack of qualifiers is inexcusable.


25 posted on 10/03/2011 9:02:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The whole first sentence is a frigging lie, Herman knew nothing of it until ask on TV, damn, you perrywinkles are desperate to attack a black man for racism, when he said that awful statement that perry was "insensitive". The world stopped turning. Waite til the next debate this topic will mow perry down.
26 posted on 10/03/2011 9:02:53 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Soul Seeker
Cain doubled-down, saying: “But how long ago was it painted over? So I’m still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity.’’

The article clearly states that it was painted over in 1983 or 1984. This tells me that he didn't even read the article so he wasn't aware of all the facts and had to rely on her being truthful...

27 posted on 10/03/2011 9:04:32 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: livius
Oh geez.

No one ranted about how Perry and Romneyh were un-Presidential as they were throwing garbage at one another in the past two debates.

Herman Cain gave a straight forward answer when asked a question about the N word being used on a rock. He moved on to the next question. If anyone should be chastised it should be the person who asked Cain the question that wasn't factual.

I doubt that Mr. Cain's comment makes much of a difference to anyone else unless your are trying promote another candidate at the expense of Herman Cain.

28 posted on 10/03/2011 9:04:42 AM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"When anchor Christiane Amanpour pushed back — noting that the rock had actually been painted over — Cain doubled-down, saying: “But how long ago was it painted over? So I’m still saying that it is a sign of insensitivity.’’ "

HAH~! GOTCHA THERE HERMAN. Here's how it should have gone

Amanpour: Mr Cain, Perry is a racist because his hunting camp had "niggerhead" painted on a rock isn't he ?

Cain: That's pretty insensitive

Amanpour: but the rock was painted over

Cain: THEN WHY THE F*** ARE YOU ASKING ME BI***

29 posted on 10/03/2011 9:05:02 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: lonestar

Perry defending illegal aliens is much more serious than some minor dust up over a word


30 posted on 10/03/2011 9:05:18 AM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It was a cheap shot

I don't disagree that it was a cheap shot. At this point, however, I still prefer Cain over Perry.

31 posted on 10/03/2011 9:05:59 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

You should never respond to a story in which you don’t know the facts. It makes the person look stupid. Republicans should always know that the MSM is going to make stuff up to make us look bad.

If someone said to you that CW dislikes Herman Cain because he is black, I would hope that you would find out if this was true before commenting. If you did comment before finding out the facts, you should later apologize when you are found to be wrong.


32 posted on 10/03/2011 9:06:16 AM PDT by beandog (I am saddened by what I see)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Maybe Perry and Cain should have a beer summit! lol


33 posted on 10/03/2011 9:06:33 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Erik Latranyi
"My job is not to investigate the facts myself."

I didn't see the "sarcasm" tag--I hope I'm wrong if I think this depicts an attitude that is one of the main reasons we keep getting horrible candidates: no one feels like it's "their job" to personally look into who's running.

34 posted on 10/03/2011 9:06:42 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

I am not a Perry supporter. However, Cain blew any chance of me going his way once he dropped the race card. Republicans, black or white, don’t do that silliness. That is for the left to pull.


35 posted on 10/03/2011 9:06:49 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Tax-chick
On the other hand, I’ve had it up to the eyeballs with “sensitivity.” Grow up, everyone.

Amen to that. I forget which FReeper made the comment (but I thought it very accurate) that "The headstone of Western Civilization will bear the following epitaph: 'We Didn't Want to Offend...'".

36 posted on 10/03/2011 9:06:56 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Netizen

the democrats and rinos are grasping at anything with which to attack Herman. They are scared sh*tless of Herman Cain


37 posted on 10/03/2011 9:07:23 AM PDT by stickywillie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry was already done before this...

Perry toasted himself by bashing his own conservative base calling them Heartless.

To say Herman Cain is responsible for Perry’s downfall is a stretch.


38 posted on 10/03/2011 9:07:44 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Diogenesis

In the past Cain has spoke of things and later had to amend his comments, because afterwards he researched and found his comments lacking. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he does so in this case as well.


39 posted on 10/03/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cain’s going to save the republican party and the country. Didn’t you hear? He’s the most qualified candidate we can come up with as the nominee. I guess we’re all racists because we are angry that Cain stooped to racial politics. Hell, I’d vote for Congressman Allen West in a heartbeat. He’s a war hero and a smart guy. This election should also be about having Commander-in-Chief credentials (which Rick Perry and most governors have).


40 posted on 10/03/2011 9:07:52 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: lonestar
BINGO! I will not vote for Cain in the primary.

To be honest you were not going to vote for him anyway.
41 posted on 10/03/2011 9:08:19 AM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cain is dead. When someone like Christiane Amanpour is defending a Republican against the race card you know it’s over.

Cain got blown up by Wallace on the Palestinian Right of Return question weeks ago. He then comes back and blunders back into the same type situation (giving an answer in an area where he’s clearly clueless) and then compounds the problem later in the day when given the chance to redeem himself.

Cain is in the process of exposing himself. I thought it would be in the area of foreign policy (and it still may well be) but he clearly has other issues as well.


42 posted on 10/03/2011 9:08:37 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Netizen

Cain was blindsided by the question and reacted emotionally.
Amanpour cynically pushed his button and he jumped.


43 posted on 10/03/2011 9:08:46 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If that was an attack then Algore is a wizard of science.


44 posted on 10/03/2011 9:08:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m concerned that illegal aliens are being coddled and given special taxpayer-paid benefits instead of deported to their country of origin, as the law requires. That’s the deal breaker.

Bingo. That's what "allowed Perry to go down in flames".

45 posted on 10/03/2011 9:08:56 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: MizSterious

I think Perry or his family have enough clout to ask the landlord to remove the sign as part of the lease.

Sounds like it was a long term arrangement and it could have easily been removed years ago.


46 posted on 10/03/2011 9:09:36 AM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Look, it was a mistake. Cain should know that we don’t do race card politics. In my eyes he is ever so slightly diminished. Not a biggie but a mistake nevertheless.


47 posted on 10/03/2011 9:10:21 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No big deal, can’t a man give an opinion these days without to face a surgical procedure?


48 posted on 10/03/2011 9:11:18 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Lessons In Disaster: LBJ, Carter,Clinton,Obama.)
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To: MNJohnnie

He answered a question without knowing the facts, that makes him wrong. It’s an embarrassing error for Cain not for Perry.

I think you’re wrong that it’s to Perry’s detriment. I think most smart people are tired of this race crap.


49 posted on 10/03/2011 9:12:15 AM PDT by beandog (I am saddened by what I see)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All of this BS is just helping Romney and Obama. I like Cain, Perry and Palin. None of them are perfect but I am willing to cut them some slack. They would all do better to concentrate their criticism on Obama.


50 posted on 10/03/2011 9:12:58 AM PDT by Bayou Dittohead
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