Skip to comments.Helicopter Crashes Into New York City's East River
Posted on 10/04/2011 12:43:38 PM PDT by Perdogg
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A media copter?? Keeping track of the dAMN PROTESTERS?
And I wonder if the pilot was able to avoid people and property and land in the river ala Sully Sullenberger?
That’s not the only thing that’s going to be crashing, per Fox headlines!
Being a helicopter that crashed, I think we can expect that it came down ala Whirlysplash Explodocopter.
watch live four were aboard (link via NY Post)
There are a lot of sightseeing helicopters too. Two years ago a copter and small plane collided over the river (no survivors). Hoping the pilot had some control as the craft when down....
True. Helicopters do not crash land gracefully.
headline on Fox 5
crashes into East River near 34th St Heliport
NYPD: Five People were aboard
audio from the Fox 5 link
5 aboard, 4 have been pulled, “we don’t know their condition”
Flight restrictions put up—keep other aircraft away
Aircraft are being re-routed around this
CG, NYPD police boats involved keeping traffic away
Divers in the water
Shades of Jane Dornacker. I remember that.
If this were not in NYC, D.C. or LA the story would be but a tiny footnote in the back section.
as a heli pilot, I’m curious how and why...? we probably won’t know for a while.
Anyone that knows, please chime in.
According to the live feed from some other helicopter, the one that crashed was a Bell 206. One of the Ranger line. Didn’t say which one.
Since it’s a passenger service, maybe a Long Ranger?
“Aim for the water”. Creepy audio from that crash.
I have a Blade 450 RC helicopter. It is the hardest thing I’ve ever done to learn to fly. So far, I can hover, tail in. I have the utmost respect for real heli pilots. Stay safe my friend!
I still remember the helplessness I felt listening to the audio of this one.
She had survived another helicopter crash earlier that same year.
We are 1 week away from the 5th anniversary of Cory Lidle’s crash into a NYC building while flying up the East River.
They are reporting one fatality and at least 2 in critical condition, with the other three (including the pilot) apparently either OK or not having life-threatening injuries.
Also reporting that the 2 in critical condition “may not make it”.
>> Helicopters do not crash land gracefully.
Ever heard of autorotate?
Yes, she was a member here a couple of years ago. I wonder what happened to her?
...37 bodies recovered so far...
According to one witness, it was “flying around and around in circles” prior to impact.
Sure sounds to me like he lost a tail rotor.
In lay terms, that’s when the helicopter not only twirls the rotor (the big propeller on top) but the rotor twirls the helicopter. It is very difficult to control a twirling helicopter, and since the rotor is wasting energy twirling the ship in stead of keeping it up in the air, down she comes with all hands on board.
I have often wondered why they can’t install a directional control rocket (like they use to control space craft in orbit) on the tail boom to counter the torque if the tail rotor quits working.
You could put an emergency button next to the appropriate steering pedal that the pilot could kick in if he lost the tail rotor and at least reduce counter spin sufficiently to have a chance to make a controlled emergency landing in stead of spinning in.
A really good chopper jockey might be able to control direction somewhat with a combination of pitch and collective... Long enough to bring it down, perhaps.
You could build a whistle into it to scream “Look out below!!!” and a red distress/illumination flare exhaust if it had to be activated.
Loss of tail rotor effectiveness or total loss...you’re suppose to immediately lower the collective. Allow the aircraft to settle and raise the collective as you get closer to the ground. Unfortunately if you have some altitude and you’re spinning it is hard to flare (do a full down auto as they would call it) and translate that energy to soften the landing. But yes, if they spin...that definitely challenges things at higher altitudes. A good pilot should recognize that immediately and enter the auto. But birds sometimes cause surprises.
negative, as a pilot I know that to be untrue. But given the situation, I would assume he had some tail rotor problems which complicate easier landings.
I’d much rather land a helicopter than an airplane, personally. Engine failures are easy in my experience (for heli’s).
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