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Helicopter Crashes Into New York City's East River
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Posted on 10/04/2011 12:43:38 PM PDT by Perdogg

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1 posted on 10/04/2011 12:43:42 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

you’re quick.


2 posted on 10/04/2011 12:44:51 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Perdogg

A media copter?? Keeping track of the dAMN PROTESTERS?


3 posted on 10/04/2011 12:47:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Perdogg

Prayers.

And I wonder if the pilot was able to avoid people and property and land in the river ala Sully Sullenberger?


4 posted on 10/04/2011 12:48:50 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Perdogg

That’s not the only thing that’s going to be crashing, per Fox headlines!


5 posted on 10/04/2011 12:50:17 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Obama's jobs speech: re-arranging deck chairs on his Titanic.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"...I wonder if the pilot was able to avoid people and property and land in the river ala Sully Sullenberger?"

Being a helicopter that crashed, I think we can expect that it came down ala Whirlysplash Explodocopter.

7 posted on 10/04/2011 12:52:05 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Perdogg

watch live four were aboard (link via NY Post)

http://www.nypost.com/partners/myfoxny/index.htm


8 posted on 10/04/2011 12:53:50 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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There are a lot of sightseeing helicopters too. Two years ago a copter and small plane collided over the river (no survivors). Hoping the pilot had some control as the craft when down....


9 posted on 10/04/2011 12:54:12 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: The KG9 Kid

True. Helicopters do not crash land gracefully.


10 posted on 10/04/2011 12:54:56 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: raccoonradio

headline on Fox 5
crashes into East River near 34th St Heliport
NYPD: Five People were aboard


11 posted on 10/04/2011 12:55:25 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

audio from the Fox 5 link

5 aboard, 4 have been pulled, “we don’t know their condition”
Flight restrictions put up—keep other aircraft away
Aircraft are being re-routed around this
CG, NYPD police boats involved keeping traffic away
Divers in the water


12 posted on 10/04/2011 12:57:32 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Perdogg

Shades of Jane Dornacker. I remember that.


13 posted on 10/04/2011 1:00:01 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Perdogg

If this were not in NYC, D.C. or LA the story would be but a tiny footnote in the back section.


14 posted on 10/04/2011 1:01:23 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Perdogg; All

as a heli pilot, I’m curious how and why...? we probably won’t know for a while.

Anyone that knows, please chime in.


15 posted on 10/04/2011 1:06:00 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: raccoonradio

According to the live feed from some other helicopter, the one that crashed was a Bell 206. One of the Ranger line. Didn’t say which one.

Since it’s a passenger service, maybe a Long Ranger?


16 posted on 10/04/2011 1:06:10 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: I still care

“Aim for the water”. Creepy audio from that crash.


17 posted on 10/04/2011 1:13:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Rick_Michael

I have a Blade 450 RC helicopter. It is the hardest thing I’ve ever done to learn to fly. So far, I can hover, tail in. I have the utmost respect for real heli pilots. Stay safe my friend!


18 posted on 10/04/2011 1:22:42 PM PDT by Kratos
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To: I still care

I still remember the helplessness I felt listening to the audio of this one.


19 posted on 10/04/2011 1:38:47 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Let Go and Let God - He IS In Control)
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To: skeeter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e6sfiylUGY

Horrid.


20 posted on 10/04/2011 1:46:55 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care

She had survived another helicopter crash earlier that same year.


21 posted on 10/04/2011 2:01:07 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Perdogg

We are 1 week away from the 5th anniversary of Cory Lidle’s crash into a NYC building while flying up the East River.


22 posted on 10/04/2011 2:11:41 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: raccoonradio

They are reporting one fatality and at least 2 in critical condition, with the other three (including the pilot) apparently either OK or not having life-threatening injuries.


24 posted on 10/04/2011 2:35:12 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Zeppo

Also reporting that the 2 in critical condition “may not make it”.


25 posted on 10/04/2011 2:41:31 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Perdogg

good gravy.


26 posted on 10/04/2011 6:04:19 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> Helicopters do not crash land gracefully.

Ever heard of autorotate?


27 posted on 10/04/2011 6:28:20 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor
Ever heard of autorotate?

Yes, she was a member here a couple of years ago. I wonder what happened to her?

28 posted on 10/04/2011 6:31:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Perdogg

...37 bodies recovered so far...


29 posted on 10/04/2011 7:15:59 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Perdogg

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/148344/one-dead—four-injured-after-helicopter-crashes-in-east-river


30 posted on 10/04/2011 8:05:18 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Straight Vermonter
We are 1 week away from the 5th anniversary of Cory Lidle’s crash into a NYC building while flying up the East River.
I'll never forget that one. I not only saw the aftermath (I was walking to work), but almost lived in the Belaire, the building that was struck. Fortunately for me, I preffered an apartment in a building 4 blocks north between York and the FDR. It was still a close call as the plane passed within a few hundred feet of my building. (The crew fixing the A/c in the building that day saw the crash, having watched the small plane go down. It could have been worse. On 73th street (530 East 73rd) there is a apartment building with large glass windows. The risk for occupants in that building was far greater.
31 posted on 10/04/2011 8:29:02 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Rick_Michael

According to one witness, it was “flying around and around in circles” prior to impact.

Sure sounds to me like he lost a tail rotor.

In lay terms, that’s when the helicopter not only twirls the rotor (the big propeller on top) but the rotor twirls the helicopter. It is very difficult to control a twirling helicopter, and since the rotor is wasting energy twirling the ship in stead of keeping it up in the air, down she comes with all hands on board.

I have often wondered why they can’t install a directional control rocket (like they use to control space craft in orbit) on the tail boom to counter the torque if the tail rotor quits working.

You could put an emergency button next to the appropriate steering pedal that the pilot could kick in if he lost the tail rotor and at least reduce counter spin sufficiently to have a chance to make a controlled emergency landing in stead of spinning in.

A really good chopper jockey might be able to control direction somewhat with a combination of pitch and collective... Long enough to bring it down, perhaps.

You could build a whistle into it to scream “Look out below!!!” and a red distress/illumination flare exhaust if it had to be activated.


32 posted on 10/05/2011 11:43:21 AM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: George Varnum

Loss of tail rotor effectiveness or total loss...you’re suppose to immediately lower the collective. Allow the aircraft to settle and raise the collective as you get closer to the ground. Unfortunately if you have some altitude and you’re spinning it is hard to flare (do a full down auto as they would call it) and translate that energy to soften the landing. But yes, if they spin...that definitely challenges things at higher altitudes. A good pilot should recognize that immediately and enter the auto. But birds sometimes cause surprises.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 9:04:04 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

negative, as a pilot I know that to be untrue. But given the situation, I would assume he had some tail rotor problems which complicate easier landings.

I’d much rather land a helicopter than an airplane, personally. Engine failures are easy in my experience (for heli’s).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPEJ07ecJvY


34 posted on 10/05/2011 9:06:31 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: rmlew
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Personally, I never cared for the frozen margarita. In my opinion, it gives bartenders a license to use cheaper ingredients while still charging top shelf price because the customer can't tell the difference (the crushed ice masks much of the flavor).

I prefer my margarita straight up on the rocks with 100% agave tequila (preferably Herradura Blanco), Cointreau and some lime juice. Pure and simple. With quite a kick.

35 posted on 09/27/2012 7:46:44 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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