Arctic ozone loss at record level

BBC ^ | 2 October 2011 | Richard Black

[dila813]

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-11/uow-std112904.php

Everywhere I look, it says warming, not cooling indicates man caused global warming a.k.a. green house gases.

I really think you got it backwards.

[palmer]

From the article you linked: "However, Fu's team determined the satellite readings of the troposphere were imprecise because about one-fifth of the signal actually came from a higher atmosphere layer called the stratosphere, which for the last few decades has been cooling several times faster than the troposphere has been warming"

The stratosphere really is cooling as the troposphere warms. The complications are that it causes measurement problems since the satellites can only measure both at once (they measure from above both layers). The other complication is that the stratospheric cooling is being blamed entirely on CO2 warming of the troposphere (even in that article), but it's not true. Most of the stratospheric cooling is natural and due to less ultraviolet from the sun. here's a chart of the solar UV:

[exit82]

"However, Fu's team determined the satellite readings of the troposphere were imprecise because about one-fifth of the signal actually came from a higher atmosphere layer called the stratosphere, which for the last few decades has been cooling several times faster than the troposphere has been warming"

Because of the massive inversion of the two atmospheric layers at the point of interaction, and the cross-transiting of molecular matter of different atomic weights containing chlorine and non chlorine particles, Fu had to devise a measuring device to obtain accurate data to develop his hypothesis. This device is known as a Barium Atmospheric Recorder, also known as:

FUBAR

Can I be a climatetologist now? Huh? Can I? Pretty please?

If your BS detector pegged on this post--it is working properly. If not, go back to DU.

[palmer]

I didn’t post the Fu article and don’t care what Fu thinks in general. But he happens to be correct in one point- the stratosphere is currently cooling. There may be some problems measuring the tropospheric warming and/or the stratospheric cooling, but both of those are not controversial. What is controversial is what causes tropospheric warming (CO2 to an unknown extent, the rest is natural). What causes stratospheric cooling is even more controversial, I say it is mostly, if not all natural. But I do not doubt that the stratosphere is cooling.

[exit82]

Hey,palmer, I meant my post as a joke, and I should have addressed it to “All”.

Hope my “Fu” and “DU” comments did not offend you. Just trying to show the absurdity of all the conflicting climate forecasts currently in vogue.

[palmer]

Just trying to show the absurdity of all the conflicting climate forecasts

No problem. I keep wondering if the forecasts can get any more absurd and they always do.