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Herman Cain leads GOP field in N.C.
Miami Herald ^ | 10/5/11 | Jim Morrill

Posted on 10/05/2011 4:26:40 PM PDT by justsaynomore

GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, once the longest of long shots, is surging in polls across the country and now leads the field among N.C. Republicans.

Cain's gains have come at the expense of Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who has fallen as much as the Atlanta businessman has climbed.

Combined with the unsuccessful courtship of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the polls suggest a GOP electorate still looking for a 2012 flag-bearer.

"Part of what these numbers demonstrate is the volatility within the Republican electorate," said Adolphus Belk, a political scientist at Rock Hill's Winthrop University. "Republicans ... haven't fallen in love with anyone yet."

As if to underscore that, Christie on Tuesday formally spurned the advances of establishment Republicans looking for another candidate.

"Now is not my time," he told reporters in Trenton. "For me the answer was never anything but no. My job here in New Jersey was always my passion."

Christie's decision appears to freeze the Republican field, at least for now, in an election season suddenly becoming squeezed.

Monday's decision by S.C. Republicans to move up their primary five weeks to Jan. 21 will push contests in Iowa and New Hampshire even earlier, to just after the holidays. All that gives any new candidate less time to raise the money and build the organization needed for success in the early states.

That leaves many Republican voters still searching.

A survey released Tuesday by Raleigh's Public Policy Polling shows Cain leading his rivals in North Carolina, Nebraska and West Virginia.

In North Carolina, the Atlanta businessman has the support of 27 percent of Republican voters. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were next at 17 percent.

Perry, who led last month with 35 percent, had the support of 15 percent of GOP voters.

The margin of error is 4.9 percentage points for the North Carolina and Nebraska results, and 5.7 percentage points for the West Virginia survey.

The N.C. poll wasn't the only good news for Cain. A national poll by the Washington Post and ABC News this week showed that Romney leads announced GOP candidates with 25 percent, with Perry and Cain tied for second with 16 percent. That represents a 12-point rise for Cain and a 13-point drop for Perry since last month.

And another poll shows Cain narrowly trailing Romney among Florida Republicans, with Perry in fourth place behind Gingrich.

The polls were done after Cain's surprise victory Sept. 24 in Florida Republicans' presidential straw poll. And they followed debate performances and controversies that soured many conservative Republicans on Perry.

"It's not so much what Cain did but what Perry did," said Tom Jensen, director of the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling. "Conservative voters are really souring on Perry and looking for somebody else to support."

Many Republicans, for example, dislike the fact that Perry signed a bill giving many illegal immigrants in-state tuition at Texas colleges.

"Not only has he endorsed that, but he's been bragging about it," said Bucky Sutton, a retired Rock Hill voter who has been to see Perry and Cain.

Cain, the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, appears to be picking up much of that support.

He's popular with tea partyers and social conservatives. He prides himself on not being a politician or being politically correct. He's pushing a "9-9-9" plan to enact a 9 percent flat tax on business, a 9 percent tax on personal income and a 9 percent national sales tax.

"First, he's talking about a flat tax," said Belk, of Winthrop. "Then I think that his background as a minister helps him with social conservatives within the party. He speaks their language. And he makes a point of telling them he shares their socially conservative values."

In an opinion piece Tuesday on Fox News, Cain acknowledged his rising visibility.

"Even though the Cain Train is picking up steam ... many in the mainstream media still haven't given me a shot," he wrote. "Fortunately, more have started to take note."

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/05/2439419/herman-cain-leads-gop-field-in.html#ixzz1Zx5mC0jX


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To: justsaynomore
What keeps them from increasing taxes now?

Nothing keeps them from doing it now, except the makeup of Congress. Which means the super-majority thing is just nice PR. If the Dems retook Congress after the national sales tax passed but before anything else passed, we've now got sales and income taxes, right? What am I missing?
81 posted on 10/05/2011 5:31:01 PM PDT by DTxAg
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To: justsaynomore

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“All I said was the mere fact that that word was there was ‘insensitive.’” Cain responded. “That’s not playing the race card. I am not attacking Gov. Perry. Some people in the media want to attack him. I’m done with that issue!”

Herman Cain lied. Here are Cain’s actual quotes:

1. And since Governor Perry has been going there for years to hunt, I think that shows a lack of sensitivity for a long time of not taking that word off of that rock and rename the place. It’s just a basic case of insensitivity.”

2. “For him to leave it there as long as he did before I hear that they finally painted over it is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country,” Cain said.
_________________________________

Cain pulled the race card.
He attacked Perry and LIED about it, saying he didn’t.

I knew it was only a matter of time before this would would pop out in Cain.
He is no different.

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82 posted on 10/05/2011 5:31:12 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Doesn’t it bother anyone that he reached so far to allege that Rick Perry is a bigot,

Cain is a hero for that. We had to get rid of the liberal and Cain did it! He has my support 100 percent!!! Cain 2012!!!! Thank God for a true conservative!!!!


83 posted on 10/05/2011 5:33:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: patriot08

Cain has come out on Fox, Beck, Right Scoop, The View AND Hannity and has clarified that he does not think Perry is a racist.

Cain said all of 10 words expressing his opinion over this word/action/whatever. You all have written HUNDREDS of words over 3 days complaining about it.

I believed you’ve milked it to the point that no one cares anymore.


84 posted on 10/05/2011 5:36:58 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Reagan Man

The “n” word is very hurtful to some black Americans, especially older ones. The young think it’s a joke. I can understand his reaction, though he should have waited for the facts. By the way, does anyone know who “discovered” the rock and alerted the media? Seems an obscure story to suddenly bring up, don’t you think? A dirty trick maybe???


85 posted on 10/05/2011 5:37:10 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: La Enchiladita
Can you, for one level-headed minute, actually picture Herman Cain as PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

YES. And will work to make that a reality.

86 posted on 10/05/2011 5:40:34 PM PDT by DesertSapper (CAIN 2012!!!)
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To: justsaynomore

When you pay monet from your paycheck to the government at a 9% rate, it’s called an income tax. There are no methods in his plan to get it back.


87 posted on 10/05/2011 5:40:40 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: napscoordinator
Perry seems just about as smart as a bucket of warm spit. He loses the moral high ground on at least two topics Obie is vulnerable on (crony give aways, the border). Obie is quite simply going to hand Perry his ass. We Cain do better than that.
88 posted on 10/05/2011 5:42:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: justsaynomore

PTL!


89 posted on 10/05/2011 5:47:36 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: bgill

Sadly, I don’t speak Texas. What does ‘hinky’ mean?


90 posted on 10/05/2011 5:48:01 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: chesty_puller

I never said it wasn’t an income tax. I said it replaces the payroll tax.


91 posted on 10/05/2011 5:49:44 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Liz; All
Herman Cain:

Born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were:

Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

■Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
■Master’s degree in Computer Science.
■Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).
■Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
■VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury.

All achieved before reaching the age of 35.

Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers.

■Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. - Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
■Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.
■In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain.
■He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time.
■Adviser to the Federal Reserve System.
■Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.
■Writer and public speaker.
■Radio Host.

Awards:

■Honorary Doctorate, Morehouse College, 1988
■Top 25 Black Executives, Black Enterprise, 1988
■Honorary Doctorate, Tougaloo College, 1989
■Honorary Doctorate, University of Nebraska, 1990
■Entrepreneur of the Year, 1990
■Operator of the Year/Gold Plate Award
■International Foodservice Manufacturers Association, 1991
■Honorary Doctorates, Johnson and Wales University and New York City Technical College
■Recipient of humanitarian awards, businessman of the year awards, special recognition awards, and excellence in leadership awards.

The position as Adviser to the Federal Reserve System allowed Herman Cain to learn how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.

■After reaching the top of the banking industry, Herman Cain changed careers for a fourth time.

■Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include, Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.

■ Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).
■ He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid).

When you add up his accomplishments in his life — including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking — Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century. .

92 posted on 10/05/2011 5:50:28 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: justsaynomore

OK


93 posted on 10/05/2011 5:54:05 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: sportutegrl

From the Urban Dictionary:

hinky

October 2, 2009 Urban Word of the Day

Something as yet undefinable is wrong, out of place; not quite right.

There’s something hinky about the deal.

2. hinky

A cop’s version of “I’ve a bad feeling about that”

An event or thing which is

1) Out of whack
2) Wrong
3) Off kilter

That porridge taste hinky to you?

3. hinky

the instant of knowledge when one becomes deeply aware that there is pure evil f*****y afoot.

She knew something was hinky when her husband returned from the store without his underwear...


94 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: ilovesarah2012
IIRC, it came from a Sunday WashComPost article that “quotes” something like 27 anonymous people who are in the know. ;^)

I can appreciate distaste of the n-word. Using it to attack people especially when its wrongly employed is an outrage.

95 posted on 10/05/2011 5:58:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: chesty_puller

“When you pay monet”

Off topic, but do you remember Bigbooty, from Buckeroo Bonzai, and how he had to keep correcting the pronunciation of his name to ‘Bigbootay’?

That was a funny movie. My other favorite quote:

‘Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy.’


96 posted on 10/05/2011 6:11:58 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; shield; smoothsailing; Clairity
Money can't buy you love.
97 posted on 10/05/2011 6:13:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: La Enchiladita
My impression is that, although he is a smooth talker, he is shallow. I can’t help wondering about the kind of person who would jump on board and seriously consider Cain as POTUS.

Romney is a degenerate coward military service avoiding SOB from a family of military service avoiding SOB's, only dates Mormons, and will never be the nominee, so get used to it.

98 posted on 10/05/2011 6:19:59 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: La Enchiladita

“that he called both Romney and Perry “vanilla” politicians, in essence that he is race-baiting”

You may take it as race baiting. I take it as them being part of the GOP elite and that they would run the country as the “usual” do nothing politicians that we keep electing. The standard, boring vanilla cake types.


99 posted on 10/05/2011 6:54:21 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: La Enchiladita

Cain should have said: “This whole rock thing is preposterous. We should not waste one minute discussing a non-issue of that kind. Governor Perry is in no way racist. Next question, please?”

Had he done that, he would have soared even higher.


100 posted on 10/05/2011 6:57:41 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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