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Herman Cain leads GOP field in N.C.
Miami Herald ^ | 10/5/11 | Jim Morrill

Posted on 10/05/2011 4:26:40 PM PDT by justsaynomore

GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, once the longest of long shots, is surging in polls across the country and now leads the field among N.C. Republicans.

Cain's gains have come at the expense of Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who has fallen as much as the Atlanta businessman has climbed.

Combined with the unsuccessful courtship of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the polls suggest a GOP electorate still looking for a 2012 flag-bearer.

"Part of what these numbers demonstrate is the volatility within the Republican electorate," said Adolphus Belk, a political scientist at Rock Hill's Winthrop University. "Republicans ... haven't fallen in love with anyone yet."

As if to underscore that, Christie on Tuesday formally spurned the advances of establishment Republicans looking for another candidate.

"Now is not my time," he told reporters in Trenton. "For me the answer was never anything but no. My job here in New Jersey was always my passion."

Christie's decision appears to freeze the Republican field, at least for now, in an election season suddenly becoming squeezed.

Monday's decision by S.C. Republicans to move up their primary five weeks to Jan. 21 will push contests in Iowa and New Hampshire even earlier, to just after the holidays. All that gives any new candidate less time to raise the money and build the organization needed for success in the early states.

That leaves many Republican voters still searching.

A survey released Tuesday by Raleigh's Public Policy Polling shows Cain leading his rivals in North Carolina, Nebraska and West Virginia.

In North Carolina, the Atlanta businessman has the support of 27 percent of Republican voters. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were next at 17 percent.

Perry, who led last month with 35 percent, had the support of 15 percent of GOP voters.

The margin of error is 4.9 percentage points for the North Carolina and Nebraska results, and 5.7 percentage points for the West Virginia survey.

The N.C. poll wasn't the only good news for Cain. A national poll by the Washington Post and ABC News this week showed that Romney leads announced GOP candidates with 25 percent, with Perry and Cain tied for second with 16 percent. That represents a 12-point rise for Cain and a 13-point drop for Perry since last month.

And another poll shows Cain narrowly trailing Romney among Florida Republicans, with Perry in fourth place behind Gingrich.

The polls were done after Cain's surprise victory Sept. 24 in Florida Republicans' presidential straw poll. And they followed debate performances and controversies that soured many conservative Republicans on Perry.

"It's not so much what Cain did but what Perry did," said Tom Jensen, director of the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling. "Conservative voters are really souring on Perry and looking for somebody else to support."

Many Republicans, for example, dislike the fact that Perry signed a bill giving many illegal immigrants in-state tuition at Texas colleges.

"Not only has he endorsed that, but he's been bragging about it," said Bucky Sutton, a retired Rock Hill voter who has been to see Perry and Cain.

Cain, the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, appears to be picking up much of that support.

He's popular with tea partyers and social conservatives. He prides himself on not being a politician or being politically correct. He's pushing a "9-9-9" plan to enact a 9 percent flat tax on business, a 9 percent tax on personal income and a 9 percent national sales tax.

"First, he's talking about a flat tax," said Belk, of Winthrop. "Then I think that his background as a minister helps him with social conservatives within the party. He speaks their language. And he makes a point of telling them he shares their socially conservative values."

In an opinion piece Tuesday on Fox News, Cain acknowledged his rising visibility.

"Even though the Cain Train is picking up steam ... many in the mainstream media still haven't given me a shot," he wrote. "Fortunately, more have started to take note."

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/05/2439419/herman-cain-leads-gop-field-in.html#ixzz1Zx5mC0jX


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1 posted on 10/05/2011 4:26:41 PM PDT by justsaynomore
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To: justsaynomore
Herman Cain needs to get Chris Christie's endorsement. That would be like taking your opponents castle in chess.
2 posted on 10/05/2011 4:31:35 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: justsaynomore
With Palin out, we now have a real horse race...and the pack is only rounding the second turn.

It's anyone's race at this point...may the best horse win!

3 posted on 10/05/2011 4:31:58 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: justsaynomore
From scrutinizing the threads since her announcement of not running—Cain is going to get at least 4 out of 5 former Palin supporters.

The “post Palin” polls are going to be shockers with Cain the big BIG front runner...
IMHO of course.

4 posted on 10/05/2011 4:33:00 PM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: justsaynomore

Just asking a couple of questions here...

Doesn’t it bother people that he does not understand the U.S. Constitution?

Doesn’t it bother anyone that he reached so far to allege that Rick Perry is a bigot, that he called both Romney and Perry “vanilla” politicians, in essence that he is race-baiting?

What is Cain’s foreign policy platform?

My impression is that, although he is a smooth talker, he is shallow. I can’t help wondering about the kind of person who would jump on board and seriously consider Cain as POTUS.


5 posted on 10/05/2011 4:34:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

You need not wonder any more. If Sarah is out this redneck, Honkey,alledged racist white boy is going to support cain, at this point in time.

He has to be proven a lot worse before I will go with those other clowns.


6 posted on 10/05/2011 4:37:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: La Enchiladita

“Foreign policy platform” is pretty vague. Anything in particular you would like to know?

This is a good interview for Herman Cain and it starts with him being asked about the Perry controversy. He plays off comments that he made yesterday by saying that he was only referring to the word on the rock as insensitive, not Perry, and that he has since learned that Perry’s family painted over the word and that he doesn’t feel that the word reflects negatively in any way on Governor Perry.

http://www.therightscoop.com/herman-cain-backs-down-from-perry-rock-story/

Are you so racially sensitive that you find the word “vanilla” to be racially-charged?


7 posted on 10/05/2011 4:39:07 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: justsaynomore

Since Sarah isn’t running...I will be joining the Cain train.


8 posted on 10/05/2011 4:39:38 PM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: La Enchiladita

He does understand the U.S. Constitution, and I don’t know what you are referring to with that.

He did not allege Perry is a racist, he said the rock thing was racially insensitive. He has since clarified in several different interviews (Fox, Beck, the View, Hannity) that he does NOT think Perry is a racist

Foreign policy:
http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues
On Iran: http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/herman-cain-interview-on-new-ideas-to-tame-iran-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/
On Israel: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/the-u-s-must-stand-with-israel/

His conservative credentials go way back - he is not an unknown.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 4:40:55 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: La Enchiladita

“My impression is that, although he is a smooth talker, he is shallow. I can’t help wondering about the kind of person who would jump on board and seriously consider Cain as POTUS.”

Wonder no more. :)

I’m ‘that kind of person’. What do you want to know about me?


10 posted on 10/05/2011 4:41:45 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: La Enchiladita

Then start considering.

First, he wasn’t race-baiting but knee jerkers flew with it.

Second, what is anyone’s foreign policy platform? Perry luuuvs his illegals. BTW, I voted for him 4 times and the last two were will a held nose. Overheard at Texas grocery store an hour ago customers talking about how “hinky” Perry was and they weren’t voting for him ever again either.

Third, name one person on The Hill who’s been following the Consitution the past few years.

Fourth, America doesn’t need another RINO lib kissing politician who will cave five seconds after passing the koolaid dispenser. America needs a businessman.


11 posted on 10/05/2011 4:42:08 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: mandaladon

Welcome aboard!


12 posted on 10/05/2011 4:42:44 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: justsaynomore

Go Cain! Now how do we stop the big GOP Northeast $ from pushing Romney on us? We need to get some Conservatives to drop out (Santorum, Bachmann) and through their support to Cain.


13 posted on 10/05/2011 4:43:26 PM PDT by kgrif_Salinas
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To: justsaynomore

Common sense, successful businessman, non-politician, likable guy with great sense of humor, rocket scientist background, are all helping propel Cain.


14 posted on 10/05/2011 4:43:42 PM PDT by federal__reserve
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To: La Enchiladita

I challenge you to go to a Cain rally. He will answer you questions.
I love when folks b.itch about things when their answers are EVERYWHERE.
He stands with Israel. He does not support the Lybian war.
He doesn’t think the Pres should be able to unilaterly execute an American citizen overseas without consent of ANYONE else . (This was a tough one for me).
He thinks the word niggerhead is a bad word (anyone here disagree/sarcasm)
He thinks ALL Americans should pay some taxes.
Hrmpf!!


15 posted on 10/05/2011 4:44:00 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Venturer

Welcome aboard Sir! We need all the help we can get to KO BO!


16 posted on 10/05/2011 4:44:30 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: ilovesarah2012

After the media reports came out Sunday AM, Herman Cain went on two major political shows and played the race card. Cain acted no better then Jackson, Rangel, Waters or Reverand Al. Damage done! The feeding frenzy continues.

Thought better of Herman. Guess I was wrong.


17 posted on 10/05/2011 4:44:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: La Enchiladita
What is Cain’s foreign policy platform?

That is a legitimate concern and a real problem. Obama can claim to have taken out Bin Laden, and rightly so. Even if he continued the tactics implemented by Bush that he campaigned against, he still did what he had to do to finish the job. What do we counter that with?

We need to be thinking about that now, regardless of who our candidate turns out to be.

18 posted on 10/05/2011 4:44:57 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: La Enchiladita
So far what we have to choose from are Bachmann, Cain and Santorum for conservatives.

We know Romney, Perry, and Gingrich are one world government politicians and of course RINOs.

Huntsman is a Democrat.

Too many public schooled GOP can't get behind a person whose faith in Christianity truly means something to them. This is what knocks out Santorum and Bachmann. Hence, Cain is surging.

19 posted on 10/05/2011 4:45:50 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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20 posted on 10/05/2011 4:46:28 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: political1
Christie will support Romney, I imagine. I am sure Cain's social conservatism will play poorly in NE Republican circles, for the most part. We will see.

I am not in favor of adding a sales tax without removing the income tax. Future politicians long after it is instituted will have yet another lever to inch up every few years. You need to get rid of the income tax entirely and replace it with a sales tax, or just institute a flat income tax.

21 posted on 10/05/2011 4:47:28 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: political1

I’m guessing Christie will endorse Romney, but I’m hoping Sarah endorses Cain.


22 posted on 10/05/2011 4:48:29 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: jacknhoo

Why do you believe that Cain’s faith isn’t sincere?


23 posted on 10/05/2011 4:48:37 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: La Enchiladita

“foreign policy platform?” Cain is one of those LEADERS who KNOWS how to hire the RIGHT people to run his administration, including foreign policy experts....he just hired J D Gordon who was Rumsfeld’s communications guy.....he’ll be getting good advice!


24 posted on 10/05/2011 4:48:37 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins

You sound like a teenage girl with a crush...


25 posted on 10/05/2011 4:50:28 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

I’m just sick of politicians in general. Cain is a smart, plain spoken conservative. DC is a cesspool, and both parties have contributed to the effluvium. An outsider is exactly what we need. Plus, Obama will have a much harder time playing his stinking race card against a true, fearless black man. If Cain gets the nomination and picks a very strong VP, he will be a juggernaut.


26 posted on 10/05/2011 4:51:10 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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Go Herman Go!! I hope he runs over RINO’s!!


27 posted on 10/05/2011 4:51:55 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Tennessean4Bush
I am not in favor of adding a sales tax without removing the income tax.

No kidding, in reality you're then stuck with two ever-increasing taxes. Kinda like "trust me, Mr. Reagan, once amnesty is passed we'll work on securing the border."
28 posted on 10/05/2011 4:52:09 PM PDT by DTxAg
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To: La Enchiladita
My impression is that, although he is a smooth talker, he is shallow.

That is the definition of Obama!

29 posted on 10/05/2011 4:52:39 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Venturer
He has to be proven a lot worse before I will go with those other clowns.

Cain is the clown in the field, second only to Paul.

30 posted on 10/05/2011 4:53:12 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

. I can’t help wondering about the kind of person who would jump on board and seriously consider Cain as POTUS.

——————————>

I’m a small business owner and I don’t see anything shallow about Cain at all.

He is the only candidate who has developed comprehensive plans for the economy.

He is not a professional politicians.

Have you visited Mr. Cain’s website?

BTW - I’ve made a donation to Herman Cain’s Campaign...I believe in him that much!


31 posted on 10/05/2011 4:53:24 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: Happy Rain

Yep, I told my hubby earlier that Cain’s numbers will skyrocket! He was my second choice but I happily support his candidacy now. Not too many of her supporters are going to go for Romney!


32 posted on 10/05/2011 4:53:51 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: Reagan Man

He said he was sorry for hurting your boy’s feelings.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 4:54:27 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: mandaladon

Same here....Cain is it now.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 4:56:10 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Have you read Herman Cain’s 999 plan on his site?

IT DOES ELIMINATE THE INCOME TAX!

Review the whole plan. It made sense to me. My CPA might be too happy.


35 posted on 10/05/2011 4:56:41 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Why did Cain bring up the issue of a word painted on a rock that had already been painted out? It was a low blow and indicated a mean streak in the man.

What did it have to do with being POTUS?

I’m sorry but I am looking for a candidate who is not mired in pettiness and who has the big picture. Cain has absolutely no experience in governance, no credentials for becoming President and does not concern himself with the weighty issues that confront a President.

Foreign policy is of little concern on today’s FR. It used to be the biggest concern.


36 posted on 10/05/2011 4:57:53 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
Sounds to me like you want more of the same. Perry, Romney, both of them are obama-lite.

Just like the so called tea-partiers who hold up signs at rallies saying, "don't touch my medicare." They are part of the problem, not the solution.
37 posted on 10/05/2011 4:58:07 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Reagan Man

Then vote for Romney.


38 posted on 10/05/2011 4:59:34 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: La Enchiladita

Stop the insults, please. It’s not becoming. If you are supporting another candidate present their strengths!


39 posted on 10/05/2011 4:59:34 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: La Enchiladita

Romney and Perry “vanilla” politicians, in essence that he is race-baiting?

***

They are very “vanilla” in their establishment-ness.


40 posted on 10/05/2011 5:00:18 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: randomhero97

A blast from the crapper! LOL

Actually, Hermie said it was “insensitive”. Sounds just like a thin skinned liberal.


41 posted on 10/05/2011 5:00:42 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: federal__reserve

He has a degree in mathematics as well!


42 posted on 10/05/2011 5:01:20 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: goodnesswins
Cain is one of those LEADERS who KNOWS how to hire the RIGHT people to run his administration, including foreign policy experts....

And except for, maybe, Gingrich, no one else running, Republican or Democrat, is exactly a foreign policy expert.

43 posted on 10/05/2011 5:01:51 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Donnafrflorida

I don’t like your lowlife style of posting.
Be more careful when you sport the name of the Lord in your tagline.


44 posted on 10/05/2011 5:01:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

NO...I’m sick of slick politicians who HAVE foreign policy experience, etc....maybe you’d rather have Hillary?


45 posted on 10/05/2011 5:02:11 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: federal__reserve

I don’t understand the vitriol against Cain coming from some Freepers. Sour grapes for Sarah not running? From what I have discovered about Cain, he is up to the job, loves America, isn’t a whinner, he’s a hard worker, very smart (unlike idiot Obama), self-made, has a lovely wife, understands business. Not sure what some don’t like about him. As for foreign policy, maybe he’ll tap John Bolton for Secretary of State. I would love that.


46 posted on 10/05/2011 5:02:51 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
"and that he has since learned that Perry’s family painted over the word "

I think it would be smart to know the whole story before you comment on it. He was way too quick to yank that race card not knowing the whole situation.

47 posted on 10/05/2011 5:03:24 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: not2worry

“Stop the insults, please. It’s not becoming. If you are supporting another candidate present their strengths!”

Amen, well said and worth repeating. When has an insult every changed somebody’s opinion/attitude? Putting people down doesn’t win them over to your side. Conservatives should exchange strong, rational and respectful arguments—and may the best candidate win.


48 posted on 10/05/2011 5:03:56 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: La Enchiladita

Well, which other candidates other than Huntsman have this experience? Oh wait, I forgot, Perry is snuggly with the Muslims and has policy experience with Mexico. My bad.


49 posted on 10/05/2011 5:04:16 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: DTxAg
Please read Mr. Cain's entire plan.

The tax structure he is proposing requires a 2/3rds or Super Majority of the Senate to vote to raise it.

That means on any proposed increases you can contact your Senator and tell him/her to vote against any increases.

His plan is well thought out. Go to his website and check it out.

50 posted on 10/05/2011 5:05:01 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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