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With Sarah out, which conservative candidate has the best shot of knocking out Romney and Obama?
vanity poll | Oct 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 10/05/2011 5:06:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

My personal favorites are:

1) Bachmann

2) Cain

3) perry

Cannot get excited about Gingrich or Santorum.


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To: Jim Robinson

With Sarah out this go around I would say we have two choices in the conservative column, Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain.

Out of the two I think Herman Cain has the best chance at beating the rest of the crowd for the nomination at this point in time.

Perry is out because he is not what people here say he is. Romney is obviously out. Newt is smart but he has too many skeletons and some of his recent past endorsements and such have left a bad taste in my mouth.

Damn shame Sarah decided not to run but I certainly respect her decision. She can still be a force to reckon with.


151 posted on 10/05/2011 5:41:26 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Jim Robinson
CAIN !
152 posted on 10/05/2011 5:41:44 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Coldwater Creek
I have a terminal illness and asking God to let me live to do so.

I will pray every day that God grant your request.

153 posted on 10/05/2011 5:42:08 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Please don't be a Freeploader, help to keep the lights on.)
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To: Clairity

I think Perry is going to have one helluva problem overcoming his perceived support for illegal aliens and his objection to a border fence and his infamous “heartless if you don’t” insult. Conservatives are not going to flock to him unless he has some magic way of erasing the self-inflicted bucket-mouth damage.


154 posted on 10/05/2011 5:42:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Knockout Romney and Obama:


155 posted on 10/05/2011 5:42:17 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Perry- hopefully he will step up his game. I think he can, if he can, i think he has the best chance of beating Obama.

Gingrich- he would be good and I believe he wouldn’t waiver in his job because history is too important to him. He will want history to remember him as a great president. He is smart and he would work hard to get things turned around and make himself look good.


156 posted on 10/05/2011 5:42:59 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: Jim Robinson

Cain all the way! He has my 100 percent support.


157 posted on 10/05/2011 5:43:26 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Freedom_Fighter_2001
This guy’s posting vanity polls in News/Activism?

Probably signed up today just to post this!!

Seriously, though, Cain... then Bachmann... Per....

...iod.

158 posted on 10/05/2011 5:45:01 PM PDT by C210N
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To: Jim Robinson

With Palin out the ticket I would like most to see is Cain/Gingrich. I would not want to see Gingrich as the top of that ticket but his political skills would be good at #2 and his RINO tendencies would probably go away if he has to assume the presidency after a year or three of a successful Cain. Cain/Rubio would be very nice.


159 posted on 10/05/2011 5:45:16 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: basil

Romney is a gun-grabbing global warming advocate. No way will I vote for that big government mandate-loving lying political whore and all around scumbag.


160 posted on 10/05/2011 5:45:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Clairity

yep. Perry is such a great debater!

...in the last Governor election, Perry was so good in the debates,
it was almost as if the other candidates weren’t there !

=
(and, after Fast and Furious, Solyndra, and other coming,
Obama won’t even be their candidate on the ballot in 2012 !
...the Democrats WON’T run him, if he can’t win.
they’ll switch like they did in NJ a few years ago.
Maybe with Cuomo. We shouldn’t focus on Obama too much.

...So we need to select the best CONSERVATIVE, who can best undo the damage, and fix the business economy.
That’s Cain.
...not a big government open borders ex democrat who campaigned for Al Gore...)


161 posted on 10/05/2011 5:46:37 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: luckystarmom
“I’d pick Romney over Perry.”

Are you serious?? Do you favor queer marriage, abortion, and gun control? How about Obomney-care?

Do you like any conservative issues at all? You'll get none with Romney, who ran for Senate to the LEFT of Teddy Kennedy.

162 posted on 10/05/2011 5:47:31 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s between Cain and Perry. Both have problems to overcome. Perry’s problems are well known. Cain’s are just coming out. I think that his 9-9-9 plan will be hard to sell to most voters, especially the 9% sales tax and the elimination of SS payroll tax. We need to know more details.


163 posted on 10/05/2011 5:47:49 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Have to edit my tagline. Cain is able!


164 posted on 10/05/2011 5:47:55 PM PDT by ScottinSacto (If anyone will beat Obama, let's not send just anyone. Cain/West 2012 (Palin/Cain when she declares))
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To: Jim Robinson
Of the current field, it'll never be Bachman. Cain is a long shot, but a good long shot. Romney or Perry are both definite losers against Obama.

After eight years of GWB, the USA is going to say "no thank you" to another governor from Texas no matter what.

165 posted on 10/05/2011 5:48:01 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Jim Robinson

Santorum, Cain, Bachmann (reverse alphabetical order). I can support any one of them.


166 posted on 10/05/2011 5:48:36 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Jim Robinson
As it stands now, obviously, I'm a bias Sarah Palin supporter even though she has declared she isn't running, much to my consternation and stamping of feet. That being said my preferences at this point in time are in the following order without Sarah getting in the race:

Michele Bachmann, verifiable Constitutional conservative and right on the issues and the issue of Perry's mandating Gadsil which goes directly to revealing his character and propensities to abuse power and has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Gadsil is an appropriate medication. Couple that with his unshakable stand on illegal aliens and a blind man can see what his leanings are;

Herman Cain (although he's getting close to replacing Michele as my favorite) needs more vetting as to his background, views and any character revealing decisions and not so much as to what he's now saying even though the factual outline and superb presentation of his plan is what has caught my attention;

Rick Santorum, conservative, and Newt Gingrich (yes Newt Gingrich), a conservative but also an establishment Republican. Both can be bought but they also can be cowed if close watch is kept and we ride herd on them. Santoruem's Arlen Spector support and Gingrich's cow towing to President Clinton on that stage debate, the New York district race, and supporting the "Wicked Witch of the West" sitting on that couch has really given me pause on the depth of his character.

As for my opinion of Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, they both have a records as left leaning establishment Republicans on the order of John McCain, who is more a Democrat than Republican. Rick perry I would vote for notwithstanding the above character flaws and only in a last man standing situation.

Mitt Romney ……………. Oh my G_d! Can someone tell me how this guy was elected Governor of a state that is 99% liberal and he is to be considered a Republican, a touted conservative Republican no less? A person doesn't get elect in that state unless you flip flop all over the place. His Massachusetts health care plan should be the nail in his coffin and no other facts need be presented. I will either leave the Presidential portion of the voting ballot blank or, while weeping, write in Sarah Palin's name. No one should ever be asked to hold their nose and vote for him as the lesser of two evils ………….. again!

Now for some FR posters, what I have said may appear to attack candidates and be offensive to their delicate sensibilities but as the adage goes "Politics ain't bean bag" and to seek out facts to determine a persons character has to be done and stating those facts isn't trashing them.

167 posted on 10/05/2011 5:49:30 PM PDT by Old Badger (I still like Palin because she will tell like it is and she'll take no prisoners!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’d love a Perry-Cain ticket with Palin as Energy Secretary.


168 posted on 10/05/2011 5:49:44 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Jim Robinson

Romney is the most conservative candidate in the race. He will win the nomination and go on to win the General Election.


169 posted on 10/05/2011 5:49:47 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: PaleoBob

Well, if they give him money, maybe they will vote for him. Hispanics for sure won’t be voting for Romney. Don’t think Catholics think too much of the Mormon religion.
If we could convince them Obama is Muslim, they wouldn’t be so keen on him either.


170 posted on 10/05/2011 5:49:57 PM PDT by IceAge
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To: Elendur
in the last Governor election, Perry was so good in the debates,

Uhhh hate to tell you but I don't think Perry debated White in our last election.

171 posted on 10/05/2011 5:50:22 PM PDT by catfish1957 (A politican with a heart usually means they have one hand in our pocketbooks!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Either Cain or Gingrich. I like Santorum, but others don’t.


172 posted on 10/05/2011 5:50:47 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: catfish1957
Wrongo on Perry. You need to set a little time aside and watch his Townhall meeting in NH. Once you click the link look to the right and you'll click on the video...Rick Perry NH Townhall Meeting.
173 posted on 10/05/2011 5:51:52 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Jim Robinson

Yeah, what he said!

Raise Cain!!!!!


174 posted on 10/05/2011 5:52:14 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m afraid too many will see Cain as a black Romney. With Cain sidling off to promote his book, pause to regroup, or whatever it is he’s doing, I see Romney taking a large lead.

That happens, I’m buying stock in Grecian Formula.

And it may not matter so much unless the people who loved Obama but now hate Obama get out there and vote.

Who am I supporting? None of them. Since the wife and I are now severely underemployed, we can barely support ourselves.

PS: If you see my psycho crackhead (soon to be ex) DIL, punch her in the head for me—HARD. Trying to help my son defend himself and those kids has broke the bank.

PPS: Jesus Christ said there was only one to fix this. It isn’t going to pretty. Throwing all I got to Him.


175 posted on 10/05/2011 5:53:09 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: Elendur

oops ....sorry, didn’t see the sarcasm. :)


176 posted on 10/05/2011 5:53:18 PM PDT by catfish1957 (A politican with a heart usually means they have one hand in our pocketbooks!!!)
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To: Jim Noble

I agree with your entire post.

As much as it troubles me to say this, I think I may take another look at Newt.


177 posted on 10/05/2011 5:53:18 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Jim Robinson

Can’t support any one of the three.

Haven’t found a suitable candidate for that particular office at this point.


178 posted on 10/05/2011 5:53:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't give political aid and comfort to those who give aid and comfort to baby butchers.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Since you have met Gov Palin in person, could you please let her know that there are millions of us who were praying she would be our next President. Of course, she needs to do what the Lord advises. But please let her know some of us felt we were hearing from the Lord also and that He had called her for such a time as this.

Very, very disappointed as her Presidency would truly bless our nation. Please tell her when you have the opportunity as you have met her before. Very disappointed. Not in her, but that she won’t be our next President.


179 posted on 10/05/2011 5:54:46 PM PDT by postt
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To: SaxxonWoods

Staggered? Yet just yesterday, Drudge was hinting at a Palin run. So is Drudge also now considered to be out of the loop?

Palin.... please reconsider, please.

And her VP should be CAIN. Ideal ticket is Palin/Cain


180 posted on 10/05/2011 5:54:53 PM PDT by postt
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, as I see it, that’s a vote for obammy...........

There’s a local radio station in Austin Texas—very conservative. They refer to Perry as “Pointy Boots”......IOW, the urban Cowboy.


181 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:04 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Clairity
Do you or anyone seriously think that Bachmann or Cain have a chance of beating Romney and Obama? This is not a "beauty contest" (as in who is "the most conservative that we like"), the fate of the nation is at stake.

You've got that right. There are 127 posts, but none offer any evidence or analysis that demonstrates the candidate they like can win.

Defeating Obama is serious business. It isn't any gimme, where any candidate the GOP puts up will prevail. FR beauty contests aren't going to select the most effective candidate. It is more likely to select a losing candidate.

182 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:25 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Coldwater Creek

IMHO, post of the thread!


183 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:25 PM PDT by IrishPennant (We don't want to work so we go to work to make enough money not to work...Huh?)
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To: Jim Robinson

My favorites also.

) Bachmann

2) Cain

3) Perry


184 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:25 PM PDT by Gosh I love this neighborhood
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To: KC_Lion
Perry's instincts are COMPASSIONATE. Whatever his views and positions are they would be disastrously modified by his "compassion" in office. Perry also never has said anything to indicate that he understands Economics. Palin and Cain and Trump are the only ones running or who had been considering running that have said things that show they know how money works and why people choose. That leaves Cain as the only one I can positively support. I would vote, in the end, for anybody but Romney.

If the election comes down to Romney vs. Obama and were I to choose the Lesser of Two Evils I would have to vote for the kenyan but I could not possibly vote for him for anything that doesn't establish him behind bars somewhere so I will not vote the top of such a ticket.

185 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:33 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Coldwater Creek
You have my deepest prayers. You are a strong person from reading your post. I, also, hope you are able to complete the time necessary to do what you wish before you are in His arms. Bless you, Coldwater Creek, now and for ever after.


186 posted on 10/05/2011 5:55:44 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Jim Robinson

At this point I’d say Cain.


187 posted on 10/05/2011 5:56:10 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: Rome2000

You don’t think Cain blundered by forcing people to blame themselves for not being rich or not having a job ? IMO he’s absolutely done.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/cain-not-rich-no-job-blame-yourself/


188 posted on 10/05/2011 5:57:05 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: PaleoBob
And most of Ricardo’s dough probably came from the pro-illegals interests, LaRaza, CASA, the US slave labor industries, etc. Who else would give him that kinda money?

Well, we know it wasn't from the trial lawyers since Perry managed to get Tort Reform passed and then Loser Pays. We also know it wasn't from the unions since Texas is a Right to Work state and Perry touts that all over the place.

I seriously doubt it was "illegals" etc. because Perry is VERY strong on securing the border despite what the flaming libs say.

189 posted on 10/05/2011 5:59:36 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Please don't be a Freeploader, help to keep the lights on.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll jump on the Cain train, but he’s going to need someone like Newt or Santorum on the ticket to give him “credibility” only in the sense that they will say Cain has no experience in dealing with Congress. Santorum on the ticket may help win PA too, which the GOP needs (along with FL) to grab the electoral college. Though I’ve mentioned Santorum a few times I am not endorsing him I just recognize he lends a number of things to a winning ticket. He may not be the right guy at all in the grand scheme I don’t know enough about him except that he knows DC and he can carry PA.


190 posted on 10/05/2011 6:00:09 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Taking Congress back in 2010
Sarah was our only chance. Cain played the race card against Perry and supported TARP

How soon you forget. Sarah Palin supported TARP. She also supported a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens.

191 posted on 10/05/2011 6:00:57 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Plutarch

Right. And the one who can win (according to the smartest GOP analists (not a misspelling)) all pick Romney as the only one who can defeat Obama. No thank you ma’am. I’ll go third party thankyouverymuch. Pray the TEA party goes real.


192 posted on 10/05/2011 6:01:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: RightFighter

Don’t make me mad now.... but rubio on ANY ticket will automatically count him out of anything I will vote for. Rubio is not a Natural Born Citizen any more than Obama is, for the same reasons. He parents were immigrants when he was born, as a Dual citizen, not naturally a citizen of the United States because he was born to two parents who were citizens, and born on our soil - by virtue he is also of another - that of his parents.

I will NOT vote for a Dual Citizen for the Office of POTUS or Veep, which has the SAME requirements. Not after 3 years of discussing what a Natural Born Citizen is.

Yea, that is called holding to principle - for those who would flame my opinion. I have stated for a LONG time that Obama wasn’t an NBC because he was born British as well. Now that it is an otherwise LOVELY conervative with a lot of appeal, am I to drop my principles because it is CONVENIENT to do so? No, I am not hypocrite, I can’t support Rubio for the office of POTUS or Veep.

Don’t EVEN promote Rubio. He will destroy this party if he does get nominated. He is a constitutionally ineligible candidate just as Obama is.


193 posted on 10/05/2011 6:01:56 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jim Robinson

Although Bachman is a great cOnservative she lacks gravitas
Cain is theman he is portrayed as a pizza man but his resu
E is far greater

Heis a turn around expert with total insider knowledge of the fed

He is percisely. What is needed


194 posted on 10/05/2011 6:02:12 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: nhwingut

If Romney gets the nomination, get ready for the media’s all-out war on the Mormon church, including their past history on blacks. If Cain wins the nomination, there may not be any dirt on him but, if there is, you won’t hear about it until he’s got the nomination wrapped up, then any unfortunate incidents or comments will come out.

If Perry wins the nomination, the smear machines will have to truly be reaching because you already seen what they’ve attacked him with and it’s extremely weak. And, trust me, Democrats have lusted for the Texas Governors mansion for a long time so they would have brought out any relevant dirt a long time ago.

If Cain is entirely clean, he’d be an outstanding president, but what if he’s not? What dirt would the Democrats hold hoping never to use it because they don’t want to be called racist but will use it anyway if it gets to the general election? That’s what scares me about Cain. He’s never been vetted by the media and they won’t vet him until he’s already got the nomination.


195 posted on 10/05/2011 6:02:23 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Although Bachman is a great cOnservative she lacks gravitas
Cain is theman he is portrayed as a pizza man but his resu
E is far greater

Heis a turn around expert with total insider knowledge of the fed

He is percisely. What is needed


196 posted on 10/05/2011 6:02:45 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: Zevonismymuse
Romney is the most conservative candidate in the race. He will win the nomination and go on to win the General Election.

IBTZ!

197 posted on 10/05/2011 6:04:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Jim Robinson

President of the United States of America: Herman “the Hermanator” Cain

Vice President: Marco “Tea Party” Rubio

State: John Bolton

Treasury: Newt Gingrich - we need a smart guy to oversee the gutting of our ridiculous tax code and replacement with something that works

Defense: Duncan Hunter, Sr. - former Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and tremendous patriot

Attorney General: Paul Clement - Smart conservative who knows the conservative bar and can recruit talent to displace the Left’s death grip on this department

Interior/Energy - Sarah Palin to lead the combined department

Education – Historian and educator David Barton to oversee the transfer of functions back to the states and elimination

Homeland Security – Allen West to supervise the securing of the border and enforcement of immigration laws

HHS – Michele Bachmann or Paul Ryan to oversee the unwinding of Obamacare


198 posted on 10/05/2011 6:05:36 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Cain you hear us NOW?)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am on the Cain Train!


199 posted on 10/05/2011 6:06:05 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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The most conservative candidate who has a chance to win and who is not-Romney is Perry.

IMHO


200 posted on 10/05/2011 6:06:09 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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