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Cain flip-flops on due process for Americans, criticizes Perry
United Liberty ^ | 10-7-2011 | Jason Pye

Posted on 10/07/2011 9:02:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: Lazlo in PA

REM did some pretty cool covers over the years.


141 posted on 10/07/2011 10:49:01 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: magritte

And Ricardo Perry is wayyyyyyyyyyy to soft on illegals.
There....now we are even lol.


142 posted on 10/07/2011 10:49:18 PM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: Deagle

I don’t depend on the MSM, I made that clear.


143 posted on 10/07/2011 10:51:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: alicewonders
I’m starting to see a certain kind of blind devotion to a candidate (the kind that cannot handle any criticism whatsoever) that I used to see given to Sarah Palin. Man, I hope we’re not going to have to go through that stuff again!

We will have to go through it again. It's like the actual object of their affection is beside the point. It's their NEED for someone to elevate and admire that is driving it. No vetting. No skepticism. Just utterly blind, misguided faith. Now they're gonna go on the rebound with Mr Federal Sales Tax, setting themselves up for their next disappointment.

144 posted on 10/07/2011 10:52:59 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: smoothsailing

Perry has every thing going for him to beat Milt but he seems to have no idea how to argue it. Otherwise he would be a fine candidate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9zMo-BPADU

I will stick with Santorum till the Fat Lady sings. Otherwise, Perry better get his shit together or we will end up defending the biggest RINO America ever saw. Personally, I think Cain is going to out run these stooges right now. Just my opinion. He is a solid Conservative.


145 posted on 10/07/2011 10:54:53 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: CajunConservative

Perry INHERITED 1) no state income tax 2) tort reform 3) oil industry 4) military bases. Perry was dealt 4 aces. This is one item I can agree with Mittens.

From Heartless conservative.


146 posted on 10/07/2011 10:55:32 PM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: smoothsailing

Cain is obviously in over his head. He’s trying to BS his way through this process. Which means he’ll be a perfect fit for wayward Palin fans.


147 posted on 10/07/2011 10:57:02 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: Huck

My favorite version of this tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmex-3CGTv0&feature=related

Rock on brother.


148 posted on 10/07/2011 10:57:53 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

It’ll all shake out one way or another, hopefully the nominee will be anybody but Romney or Paul.

Rock on!


149 posted on 10/07/2011 10:59:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Polybius
After his treason, Benedict Arnold was made a Brigadier General by the British and Benedict Arnold led attacks against Virginia. By your reasoning, Benedict Arnold could not be shot while commanding an attack in Virginia .... only captured and brought to trial.


150 posted on 10/07/2011 11:00:47 PM PDT by FredZarguna (We'll keep Independence Hall. New Jersey can have all the rest.)
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To: Huck

We’re seeing the evidence of that daily, is it any wonder Cain wants to go on a book tour? May hay while the sun shines Herb.


151 posted on 10/07/2011 11:03:41 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

He’s been flip floppng and back pedaling since he entered the race , which is why I no longer support him .


152 posted on 10/07/2011 11:03:41 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: smoothsailing

LOL. Yes Sir.


153 posted on 10/07/2011 11:04:03 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Ha. That’s pretty cool. I admit I haven’t listened to much Sammy. I’m more of an Al Green kinda guy. But I dig Sammy’s soul vibe take on this tune. Not really one of my favorite tunes.


154 posted on 10/07/2011 11:04:34 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: alicewonders

” Herman Cain still has a lot of vetting to go through.

You can say THAT again . Right now his nickname is Flipper .


155 posted on 10/07/2011 11:05:15 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: MNJohnnie
I read most of the posts on Mr. Cain here. There have been a large number of defamatory threads including this one are started by persons who are Gov. Perry's supporters. It is my goal to stay positive in my comments but I do have a theory on why this is taking place.

Gov. Perry took in by far the most money last month. What do they do with that type of money? Most will probably be spent on Ads, but a lot is also spent on high priced political consultants and pollsters. These people come up with strategies and tactics to keep their client on top. I have a theory that might seem improbable, but may fit the pattern that we are seeing.

How does Gov. Perry attack someone who has a compelling story, amazing credentials, is extremely likable, and has qualities and a personality that inspires and like no one since President Reagan? He is a person who is so likable that almost every other candidate has said that they would like him to be their running-mate.

They started out by insisting that he was a unelectable fringe candidate incapable of beating President Obama. Then it seems that Gov. Perry's advisers made the decision that the best way to attack Mr. Cain was to first portray Gov. Perry was a victim of an unfair attack from Mr. Cain. Then they could pivot from that sympathetic position into full fledged attacks using innuendo and twisting Mr. Cain's record.

Who would even know about the “Ni****head rock in the first place? Where in the world did this story come from? The answer is that it was fairly likely a set-up by Mr. Perry's own people? Twenty million dollars in one month buys political consultants that are skilled political chess players. These guys are capable of playing both the Washington Post and Herman Cain.

To me the entire scandal has the appearance of being a completely manufactured dirty trick designed entirely to trip up Mr. Cain who is a candidate who speaks from the heart without looking for help on every syllable to high priced political consultants. The entire episode is a nonevent that is nothing but an irritating distraction for Mr. Cain and has very little negative impact for Gov. Perry.

Do I have any evidence that this was a campaign tactic from the Gov. Perry camp to attack the unattainable Mr. Cain? Nothing other than a pattern of attacks in the media on political blogs and even here on Free Republic. Almost all of them start out by trying to portray Gov. Perry as a victim of the nasty “race baiting” Mr. Cain and then lead into attacks trying to tie Mr. Cain to Gov Romney and then attacks on Mr. Cain's qualifications, etc..

Do we find any threads here attacking Gov. Perry posted by Mr. Cain's supporters? None that I am aware of. Mr. Cain's supporters have mostly posted threads that play up positive aspects of Mr. Cain's record and successes.

I think the efforts of the Gov. Perry team have been completely ineffective here and pretty much everywhere else. If this was something thought up by Gov. Perry's advisers... I think that it has completely backfired. Mr. Cain is a man who seems to rise to any challenge. Attacking him only increases his name recognition and makes more people aware of what a great man that he is. When conservatives take a closer look they really like what they see.

I think that Gov. Perry's only hope to salvage his failing campaign is to get out in front of the crowds and in front of the cameras and express a positive and optimistic message. If he can't do this; I am afraid that even with the massive amount of money that he has raised... his presidential bid will go nowhere.

156 posted on 10/07/2011 11:07:35 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Huck

Now there was a musician.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsU6_eSG4k4


157 posted on 10/07/2011 11:07:45 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: federal__reserve

Um, he didn’t screw it up. He understands that less government interference is better for business and liberty. Look at the destruction zer0 has done in less than 3 years.


158 posted on 10/07/2011 11:09:14 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: smoothsailing

Please note that the interview in question is 5 months old.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Obama administration did NOT have a publicly stated policy at that time favoring the targeting of US citizens with deadly force. Or if they did, it was not stated as such by Obama himself, and it was not widely commented upon.

I certainly was unaware of it, and I follow this stuff fairly closely.

The public controversy only arose after Al-Awlaki was killed.


159 posted on 10/07/2011 11:10:41 PM PDT by cookcounty (2012 choice: It's the Tea Party or the Slumber Party.)
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To: FredZarguna

“Now, somebody on this thread has pointed out that according to the US Code, serving in a foreign military is de facto renunciation of one’s citizenship... OK, I can also accept that, I guess, but the problem we come back to is — who gets to decide? Does Barack 0bama get to decide that members, posters, or financial contributors to FRee Republic have de facto renounced their American citizenship?”


Oh, come on, get serious. Had he been living in New Jersey, then yes he should have been arrested and charged. But he was living in Yemen for crying out loud. You can’t see the difference? For starters, we don’t have police authority in Yemen, and even if we did, it would be a very risky arrest. Why should our guys have to risk their lives in a foriegn country to avoid killing this precious pile of excrement?


160 posted on 10/07/2011 11:11:34 PM PDT by RussP
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