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Palin's Withdrawal Means Obama Wins
American Thinker ^ | October 8, 2011 | Robert Eugene Simmons Jr.

Posted on 10/07/2011 11:31:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, it looks like the forces of smear, slander, and threat have finally claimed their intended victim. With Palin's announcement that she won't run for president, the election is essentially over.

The calculus is fairly simple: the media and GOP establishment want Romney to be the nominee. Once a progressive is at the head of the Republican ticket, low turnout for Republicans will hand a narrow victory to Obama.

So here is how the election will go. The media hasn't seriously opened up on Herman Cain, but most assuredly they will. Cain has been in business for decades, and the liberal media will troll through every relationship, every business deal, every word he has ever spoken. If that fails, the lies will start. To see evidence of this, we need not look at far as Palin. Rick Perry, another progressive, was attacked for something that someone painted on a rock on land his family leased out. That narrative will be used to attack both Perry and Cain -- Perry for having "allowed" it and Cain for making a big deal over "nothing." Both narratives will be forwarded, potentially in the same program. Once the liberal media goes through Cain's past with a fine-toothed comb, they will doubtless find disgruntled business adversaries, accusations of infidelity, and more.

If Palin had been in the race, the smear tactics would have failed, as the establishment and media threw everything they could possibly throw to get her out of the race. Who knows what her personal reasons, in her heart of hearts, were for not running? Perhaps she feared for the safety of her family. At any rate, there is no other conservative that has as much of a head start on the slander as Palin did....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; obama; obamacare; palin; perry; romney; romneycare; sarahpalin; sourgrapes; teaparty
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1 posted on 10/07/2011 11:32:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GOP establishment want Romney to be the nominee

This is sheer nonsense. They were begging for someone better. The GOP establishment is willing to settle for Romney if the only alternatives are The Dunce or Mr. Federal Sales Tax.

2 posted on 10/07/2011 11:34:57 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Spot on. Every election is about turnout and Palin would have electrified a segment that is notorious for staying home. At the same time if we get a finger-in-the-wind candidate like Romney the left will do their best to demonstrate his two-face nature and suppress enthusiasm. Will it be enough? That depends on who the Dem nominee is. Hillary would be beat Romney hands down. Not sure Obama could win against my pet chicken.


3 posted on 10/07/2011 11:36:22 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the MSM and the Republican establishment are going to find Cain a much harder nut to crack than they expect.


4 posted on 10/07/2011 11:37:07 PM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not am American Thinker - I am an American Doer -’and I will do everything I can to see that Obama is defeated in 2012!


5 posted on 10/07/2011 11:37:27 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe. M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a crock of shiite. A generic tomato soup can could defeat the current occupant of the White House.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 11:38:16 PM PDT by REDWOOD99 ("Earth first! We can log the other planets later")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This article is a truck load of manure. The way he's going with the economy is still trending into a death spiral, the Cookie Monster could run against Obozo and win in a landslide. With Palin out, Cain is the truest conservative in the race, with the best shot at a win. Sure Perry has raised 17 MILLION in the last week or so, but a BIG $$$ campaign might not do the trick in the primaries this time. I suspect that the vast majority of the American conservative AND independent voters are looking to truly break the hold of the professional pols on government. Cain might just be the ticket.
7 posted on 10/07/2011 11:40:44 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m glad she pulled out early.


8 posted on 10/07/2011 11:42:27 PM PDT by allmost
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To: ElkGroveDan

>> Spot on. Every election is about turnout

We’re better than that. Affection for Palin must not trump our desire for Liberty.

Don’t get me wrong; I admire Sarah Palin and regret her dismissal, but if the fruits of Liberty can only be delivered through Sarah, we’re not only screwed, we’re #ing demented.


9 posted on 10/07/2011 11:42:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My comment is: This is really stupid. It really really is.


10 posted on 10/07/2011 11:43:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just got back from Walmart. Picked up “The Undefeated” DVD and the “Going Rogue” CD together for $15.00 bucks. A pretty good deal. When Cain is elected, Palin will be in his administration. They are two of a kind.


11 posted on 10/07/2011 11:43:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
a segment that is notorious for staying home

If they stay home they can pull their thumbs out of their asses and stick 'em in their mouths because they got nothing worth saying that I care about hearing.

12 posted on 10/07/2011 11:45:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d say you are right...Although Cain has a lot of positives, I can’t imagine the Republicans picking him in the primary...And with the other two, it doesn’t much matter which one gets the nomination...They won’t generate enough interest for enough people to go vote...


13 posted on 10/07/2011 11:45:31 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know who this bozo is and I don’t think he knows squat.


14 posted on 10/07/2011 11:46:24 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a movement building to encourage Palin to reconsider her decision. Are you interested?


15 posted on 10/07/2011 11:46:24 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This article nails it and then some!

I've said the same thing here.

Palin did NOT throw her hat into the ring because if the kids, but I have NO idea WHY she pulled this crap.

She said, on Hannity's radio show, on Thursday, that her kids were all for her running, believed that she would run, until she reneged,and she isn't staying home for her kids either! No, she told Sean that she is going to be out and about giving speeches and endorsing other candidates. She also said that she didn't care what others said about her and her family.

16 posted on 10/07/2011 11:48:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going to cry until I urinate into my puddle and have to get pissed off at someone else++ cause it’s all their fault. ;) I need to post this.


17 posted on 10/07/2011 11:48:31 PM PDT by allmost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BS

this election is ABO (Anybody but Obama)


18 posted on 10/07/2011 11:48:37 PM PDT by woofie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please, Big Guy in the Sky, let this analysis be wrong.


19 posted on 10/07/2011 11:48:37 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We lost in 2008 because Fred Thompson decided to run...kinda. Lots of big S/ here.


20 posted on 10/07/2011 11:48:59 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: allmost

Wow. This is sad.


21 posted on 10/07/2011 11:50:11 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Ronin
HOGWASH!

O'Donnell had him down in a trice and Cain has NEVER even competed in anything other than a state primary and he lost that.

22 posted on 10/07/2011 11:51:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: allmost
Re post until banned.
23 posted on 10/07/2011 11:52:18 PM PDT by allmost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She did not withdraw, because she never entered the race. After keeping people guessing as to whether or not she would declare, she finally said "no" to a run, just as deadlines started to approach.

Withdrawing means you enter the race then decide to leave it. She did not officially enter.

Some called her a polarizing figure. She would need Republicans and independents to win but I'm not sure she would have won the latter.

24 posted on 10/07/2011 11:54:50 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Most in this thread seem to forget Dem election methodology. They're not in this to win the election, they're in this to destroy the candidacies of anyone who opposes them.

Never forget the lies, distortions, deceptions, scare-mongering, race-baiting, voter intimidation, govt clubs and thugs over non-existent disenfranchisement and just downright vote fraud.

They have no morals, scruples or ethics.

The Dems may be unhappy with Obama, but do you really think there's going to be a mass shift of their voting habits that sends them to vote for a Republican?

I agree with the premise of the article. If Mitt is the nominee, he's only the slightest bit to the right of Obama. Witness the two healthcare programs. If Mitt is the nominee many republicans are going to figure, "why bother. A difference that makes no difference, IS not difference."

Just imho of course.

25 posted on 10/07/2011 11:54:53 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Geithner: Taxes on 'Small Business' Must Rise So Government Doesn't 'Shrink')
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To: raccoonradio

To paraphrase John Kerry she could say, “I actually did
withdraw from the race before I entered it.”

She did not go through a bunch of campaigning then said she would drop out of the race. She simply never entered and one cannot withdraw from a race one has never entered. She “chose not to run”, instead of “she haltered her declared campaign
and decided to quit the race.”


26 posted on 10/07/2011 11:58:55 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Gene Eric
We’re better than that. Affection for Palin must not trump our desire for Liberty.

The people who stay home are not Freepers. They aren't people throwing tantrums because their candidate is not the nominee. They don't follow the news. They are people who have never thought of voting as a critical part of their lives. Don't tell me how dumb that is, that's just the way it is. The only way to get them out to vote is to find a candidate who grabs their attention. Ronald Reagan did, Pat Robertson did, and in local elections around the country someone occasionally does, or a ballot issue gets them out to the polls. At the same time Gerald Ford, Bob Dole and John McCain didn't grab their attention. I didn't plan it that way, nor do I approve, but after 20+ years in the business I understand it. So take it or leave it, but that's the way a HUGE number of eligible voters on our side behave.

27 posted on 10/07/2011 11:59:45 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would like Cain/Palin, or Palin/Cain.

No check-pants/pink tie RINOS for me.
If one is the nominee, I will not even bother with an absentee ballot, but I am from Tennessee, so not to worry.


28 posted on 10/08/2011 12:05:28 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone is better than Obama. It’s my only conclusion since Sarah is not running. Out with the fascist.


29 posted on 10/08/2011 12:08:21 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Ronin

“find Cain a much harder nut to crack”

Yes, Black Walnut. http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/herman-cain-on-palin-comment-9-30-11/1359495


30 posted on 10/08/2011 12:08:59 AM PDT by garjog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the demonic Obama machine will do everything necessary to ensure re-election. This doesn’t bother me because I know God wins in the in. I’m just greatful to be one of the ones to experience the end of this revealing age through which we will all pass... one way or another.


31 posted on 10/08/2011 12:09:10 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As to the headline: Bullcrap!


32 posted on 10/08/2011 12:11:00 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: upsdriver

Please “like” www.facebook.com/draftsarahpalin . That will register support . Phase two is to write a letter or send a postcard to The Office of Sarah Palin, PO Box 871235 Wasilla, AK 99687 asking her to reconsider. She has said in the past that her ideal candidate is not someone seeking the office pandering to voters, but someone who is reluctant to serve and is found by the people and asked to make the personal sacrifice to serve. Ask that she make that sacrifice.


33 posted on 10/08/2011 12:11:26 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The title says it all... How can one “withdraw” from a race they weren’t in to begin with? I find it ironic in that he says lies and slander claimed a victim when, although mild, he participates in what has plagued Palin all along - little digs from the media.


34 posted on 10/08/2011 12:14:55 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I have three copies of the DVD and I am giving two to friends and keeping one for people to borrow and let others borrow. I may just buy more. We need to make sure as many uninformed people get the facts.

I am also going to donate to Sarahpac and ask her to come out for Cain. All he PAC money will go to help finance the campaigns of Conservatives for House,Senate, and Governors. The sooner we get rid of the Corrupt Liberal Pubbies the better it will be to take our Country back.

35 posted on 10/08/2011 12:18:19 AM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...)
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To: upsdriver
It ain't over until Rosie O’donnell sings. A lot can still happen, and some of the people I know that did not support Sarah,are really having second thoughts. They realize that she stands out as the real deal compared to the others. People are unhappy with the choices.
36 posted on 10/08/2011 12:24:24 AM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am still digesting the Palin letdown and have not decided on any of the current field. But will say Romney in no way, betwixt him and Obama it is fiddly dee and fiddly dum. So in the end could care less which one wins the general as result will be the same..
37 posted on 10/08/2011 12:25:11 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

obama has won, deal with it. Lets focus on 2016


38 posted on 10/08/2011 12:26:02 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: samantha

That’s excellent. Sarah may have decided not to run this time but we haven’t heard the last from her. She’s just getting warmed up. IMHO.


39 posted on 10/08/2011 12:26:15 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

You missed that course on how to win friends and influence people hey?


40 posted on 10/08/2011 12:28:18 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I won’t be supporting the other gop candidates, because they don’t deserve it. The anti-Palin on the right threw her under the bus so we will do the same to their candidates


41 posted on 10/08/2011 12:28:40 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: samantha

“People are unhappy with the choices.”

And frankly, no other big names in the Republican Party, either.

We have some good people out there, but remember, we are dealing with a national media SO RADICALIZED, that Evan Bayh and Hillary Clinton weren’t radical enough to support in 2008.

I said in 2006, that if the media could convince the sheeple that 4.4% Unemployment was “THE WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION!”, they could convince them of ANYTHING. 2008 proved that rule.

Now, we are going to have to support whoever comes out of our primary, with the same heart we would have supported Sarah with, because the very future of this nation is at stake.


42 posted on 10/08/2011 12:29:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: raccoonradio

obama was a polarizing figure but he won. Stop buying into this nonsense that we need moderate candidates to win. We need to bring them over to our side, not move over to their side


43 posted on 10/08/2011 12:30:28 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: samantha; excopconservative

Many of us haven’t given up. This group just started this evening, we are over 2000 members/activists already. Click and ask to be admitted, if you so choose. We’d love to have you! It’s called Sarah Palin’s Earthquake (Sarah said an earthquake might be what it takes to get her into the race :)

http://www.facebook.com/groups/230863800300999/


44 posted on 10/08/2011 12:33:33 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: 4rcane

Yee haw!


45 posted on 10/08/2011 12:33:42 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With Palin's announcement that she won't run for president, the election is essentially over.

Unless unemployment magically falls below 7% by summer of 2012, the election is most definitely not over. This election will be about the economy and the man who has presided over it for four years - if it remains like this, Obama will lose to any GOP candidate.
46 posted on 10/08/2011 12:34:18 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ElkGroveDan

Good points, EGD.


47 posted on 10/08/2011 12:35:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This writer is too blue, needs a Valium or something. She will make a big difference as usual.

SP has won the hearts and minds of so many people because she is an upbeat,happy,clever,intelligent,inspirational and wonderful human being. She is just like us, she has no airs, and unlike so many other Politicians she is not a snob.

Closing one chapter and opening another. Let's roll Sarah.

48 posted on 10/08/2011 12:37:20 AM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...)
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To: upsdriver

I’m not. In fact, at this stage, it would be the worst thing she could possibly do. It would be Ross Perot all over again.

Whether they like Sarah or hate her, whether they agree with her rationale for not running or not, everyone has to realize that her credibility has suffered major damage since her announcement.

Long time believers and supporters (like me) not only feel betrayed, we feel like we have been made fools of. Everyone was pointing out all the reasons why she couldn’t/wouldn’t/shouldn’t, but we blew them all off — convinced that Sarah had a brave and brilliant secret plan that would totally wipe the floor with all opposition in a stunning display of shock and awe.

That is not something that is going to be forgiven quickly (if ever) nor should it be.

In my not so humble opinion, Sarah has one, repeat ONE, chance of staying relevant in this election cycle, and that is to jump on the Cain Train and campaign as enthusiastically as she possibly can for his victory. If he gets the nomination, he might even consider her for the VP slot, although I doubt it. If she wins, he might reward her with a cabinet post or an ambassadorial appointment, but not even that is certain.

But, if Cain gets the nomination and loses, or even if he loses in the primaries, her unflagging support of his efforts will go a long way towards alleviating the odium that she has brought upon herself by choking when she was needed the most.


49 posted on 10/08/2011 12:38:12 AM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: tcrlaf
That will hopefully be Herman Cain,and I can see Lawrence O’donnell’s head explode.
50 posted on 10/08/2011 12:39:57 AM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. leader for America the Beautiful...)
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