Skip to comments.Who is afraid of Mitt Romney's Mormonism?
Posted on 10/08/2011 9:42:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Even without recourse to calumny, it is clear that evangelicals will not be reconciled to Mormon doctrines without ceasing to be evangelicals.
Presidents are elected for their policy views, leadership skills and character, not their soteriology. Such theological convictions about salvation may be infinitely important, but they are politically irrelevant.
But presidential primaries are not always the best place to maintain such distinctions. In interfaith relations, it is the lack of familiarity that breeds contempt and portions of America still view Mormonism as a threatening novelty. Among conservatives, however, this opposition is more likely to fade than build. No primary opponent of Romney's can exploit these sentiments, at least in an overt way.
Mormons are one of the nation's strongest conservative voting blocks. A serious Republican candidate simply can't run an anti-Mormon campaign.
..the desire for influence tends to overwhelm theological differences. If Romney looks like the likely nominee, mainstream religious conservatives are more likely to build bridges than torch them.
.. in 2008, Mormon leaders raised their heads in support of Proposition 8 the California initiative against gay marriage. Their commitment to the traditional family runs deep, and no issue is currently more likely to provoke liberal ire. Secular progressives will add this transgression to a history of Mormon offenses against women and minorities and raise, as usual, the specter of theocracy.
Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are, by most measures, the moderates in the current field.
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One has to wonder who/what is behind the scenes on this...and how much money.
And, who are these "mainstream religious conservatives" spoken of?
I’m not afraid of Romney’s Mormonism. I’m afraid of his insincerity and fakery.
Should they ever start preaching about killing innocent Americans that’s when Mormonism will bother me.
I’m not afraid of it. It’s simply another one of the many things I don’t like about Romney, who is the only candidate who is 100% RINO. And that’s why he’s the favorite of the press.
I’m more afraid of Mitt’s covert devotion to Obamaism...
As a Mormon who did his missionary work in France, Mitt Romney knows something of uphill battles. Imagine spreading a faith that renounces smoking, coffee and alcohol in the cafes of Paris.Wow! How tough he had!
While all those other lazy Americans were kicking back and sipping Vietnamese beer in the Iron Triangle.
The only ones who will be exploiting Mitt’s mormonism is Mitt and, should he win, the dems.
“Mormons are one of the nation’s strongest conservative...”
Like Reid, Romney, and Huntsman??
“Would you support a conservative Mormon that can beat a liberal in November “
Yes, but who cause Romney is no conservative. I don’t think there hasn’t been a real conservative Mormon involved in national politics since Ezra Taft Benson
No, the WAPO will not be shilling for Mitt if/when he runs against obama. They are laying in the weeds. They are chomping at the bit to sandbag him.
What we haven’t seen yet is the weekly “Kolob” question. Those questions are being held back UNTIL Mitt is the nominee. If Mitt insists that isn’t a proper question, that will just pour gasoline on the fire until he answers it, which will generate still more questions about what most of the country would consider bizarre doctrines.
If/when Mitt becomes the nominee, those will be the only questions that monopolize the news cycles. The degree of meanness over these questions will know no bounds.
THAT and that alone is the fear over Mitt’s Mormonism. He is capable of governing OK, more or less conservatively; but he is the ONLY candidate on the Republican side who could NOT defeat obama (for the “Kolob problem” stated above). Note: R Paul is NOT a Republican.
Mountain Meadow ?
Of all the issues I have with Romney and all the reasons why I hope he isn’t the Republican nominee his Mormon faith isn’t even on the list.
I’m afraid of his liberalism not his Mormonism.
However the sleaze has sent out flyers attacking conservatives and conservative positives so I really could care less if his faith hurts him. He hasn’t acted with integrity in this campaign cycle so let people use whatever they want against him.
And no, mormons are not Christians. Nice people many of them and spirtual and happy to be political allies...but Jews, Christians and Mormons have separate positions on Faith.
Using that 'logic' I should be holding a grudge against the northern states because of the Civil War, which I don't.
Can you cite anything more recent wherein Mormonism preaches the killing of innocents?
How am I supposed to trust someone of such poor judgement to distinguish truth from lies and lead our country properly?
Not politically irrelevant at all.
And then his supposed conservative credentials are severely in question on top of that.
I think Mitt’s Mormonism, together with other things about him, make him unelectable.
The Mormon thing is interesting. Before the convention, the MSM will use it to claim anyone AGAINST Mitt is a religious bigot.
The day the convention ends, a nine week MSM course in LDS theology, practice, and customs will begin.
This is how the leftists in the media and liberal Republicans innoculate Romney against Cain, Perry, Gingrich, etc.
You see, when the next attack is launched against Romney by one of the other candidates, it will be because he is Mormon, not because of the issues.
Make no mistake, folks.......the left wants Romney bad because they know he will not turn back as much of liberalism as the others will turn back.
"If/when Mitt becomes the nominee, those will be the only questions that monopolize the news cycles. The degree of meanness over these questions will know no bounds.
/ THAT and that alone is the fear over Mitts Mormonism. He is capable of governing OK, more or less conservatively; but he is the ONLY candidate on the Republican side who could NOT defeat obama (for the Kolob problem stated above). Note: R Paul is NOT a Republican.
Good post. One has to wonder if Mitt's mind is so affected by his belief in mormon men becoming gods, not to mention the mormons who will vote in lockstep because of his mormonism that they can't see what is plainly in store from the media should he be the nominee,
I posted on another thread my opinion that conservatives are so disillusioned by the travesty of the '08 election that they want nothing to do with anyone who is a reminder of the incompetence that allowed Obama to now reside in the WH. Romney is a glaring reminder of that travesty.
Romney doesn’t “look comfortable in his own skin,” IMO.
...and, to their discredit the other candidates will buy into this ploy by, as we have seen, jumping on the bandwagon blaming Perry for someone else's comment.
How about the oaths in their secret temple ceremonies? The blood oaths that Romney took are secret, but they called for the slitting of throats and ripping out of bowels and stuff like that to people who dared to reveal the secrets contained in their temple rituals.
Frankly this is kinda like Black Sabbath stuff.
I think they may have modified the ceremony but when Romney took it he swore blood oaths and I assume he meant what he swore to. After all he was swearing to god (small g intended).
The problem for Romney though is if he gets the nomination all the racist crap that the Mormon Church taught for 140 years will come out and since he is running against a Black man, it will sink his candidacy. If Romney gets the nomination Obama will get re-elected. He is the only candidate in the field who can't defeat Obama.
I'm not so worried about his politics as his religion. His religion will be an albatross around the necks of all Republicans if he gets the nomination.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Romney’s problem is his liberalism, not his Mormonism.
Mormonism doesn't bother me. Liberalism and the black liberation theology Obama subscribes to bother me.
No one ever seems to comment about Harry Reid’s Mormonism.
I don't like him because he is a worthless abortion supportin’, queer agenda pushin’, gun grabbin’ big government, liberal bastard.
This stuff went on until 1978 and they only changed because they built a Temple in Brazil and could not tell who were the Lamanites who were cursed with dark skin because of the deeds of the followers of Laman and who were the black people who were cursed with dark skin because of their misdeeds in the pre-existence.
Mormonism has always taught and still does teach that dark skin is a curse from God. That will not play well when running against a black man.
If we don't do it, the MSM will. But when the MSM does it, then it will be too late.
I’m sure as H worried about Bambi’s Islamism, Muslimism, Jihadism...Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Fascism, Totalitarianism. OK?
I could care less about his Mormonism. He is a flip-flopper who is hostile towards the Second Amendment, and that alone means I’ll never support him.
IMO, if Romney actually cared about this country he would drop out of the race and put his money to work helping candidates who could actually win. I see his continuing this hopeless quest as pure selfishness!
Me. I am. I am afraid of anything in the spiritual world not part under Jesus’ spiritual canopy.
Actually, that's an interesting point. I think he is a despicable RINO and the only 100% RINO in the race. There are others who have one or another position with which people disaagree, but they are not 100% RINOS. The only one who is getting a pass is Cain, who has never had to explain his support for Romney, his pro-life stance, or, in fact anything other than his economic ideas. But that's not important here.
I think you have made an interesting point I hadn't thought of before. Remember that Mormonism was actually a Jonestown-like cult that came in and took over towns, sometimes got run out and sometimes struck back violently, killed its enemies, and finally was subdued by a combination of the US cavalry and the fact that Utah could not become a state until the Mormons renounced some of their practices, such as polygamy.
This is not a history any US president should be part of, any more than we should have a Muslim Marxist president now. Some people here think that the press is going to attack Romney for being a Mormon, but they won't - they'll defend him for it, and then the GOP will feel compelled to nominate him because otherwise they'll be discriminating. And at that point the press will abandon him, and remind us that Mormons had an anti-black provision written into their religion, etc., etc.
He's never going to be elected president, but the left definitely wants to stick us with him as the candidate, and then, as you say, we will have to defend his Mormonism.
Willard’s mormonism a problem?
No one has problems taking a candidate seriously who:
... Wears magic underwear everywhere he campaigns
... Believes he will not only be president, but become a mormon god with his own planet
... Believes there are millions or billions of gods who get together for meetings at Kolob Beach over Spring Break
... Believes there is not only a Heavenly Father god, but a Heavenly Mother god who have SEX ETERNALLY to create people
... Believes polygamy continues throughout eternity with multiple breeding gods
... Believes your Christian church is false - heck, all are false
... Believes Jesus Christ was a created being who later became one of millions or billions of gods
Nah, no one would mind that kind of New Age Hinduistic belief in their candidate.
I think it’s overblown.
Well, the WaPo, for starters.
If the Church of “G-d Damn America” and black liberation theology didn’t keep a muslim like Obama from getting into the White House, Romney’s mormonism sure won’t keep Romney out.
Romney, a filthy RINO, needs to be taken out, but addressing his religion won’t do it.
I’m afraid of the statism and liberalism.
I won’t vote *against* a Mormon. But I would vote *for* a Christian if the choice were that clear.
Do you honestly believe that the media will give a pass to Romney like the one they gave to Obama? They will jump on everything about the Republican nominee and then loudly proclaim they are doing their job in vetting the candidates. SHEESH!
I’m more afraid of his communism than his Mormonism....
Lay off the guy....
Unless he plans on Proselytizing Mormonism from the Oval Ofice, then his religion is Not important to me one bit. Its his Proselytizing his belief in man-made Global Warming that I find troublesome.
Romney is a suede-shoe liberal phoney. I wouldn’t vote for him under any circumstances. Besides, how can you trust someone who isn’t allowed to drink a beer? Heck, even that phoney prophet Joe Smith made and sold beer from his home. I don’t trust phonies.
“Ive said it before and Ill say it again: Romneys problem is his liberalism, not his Mormonism.”
Religious tests for office are forbidden in the constitution. That founding principle limiting the federal government should give us pause when we are considering how the religious beliefs of a candidate will affect the way they govern.
Consider also that many of the critisisms being leveled ar Mormons by the “my Jesus is better than your Jesus” crowd sound very much like the arguements non-believers use to dismiss Christianity as a whole.
They claim to be "independent fundamentalist Mormons" who are selling a book about their lives.
The guy claims to be a fifth-generation polygamist, as do his wives. All they are asking for is to have polygamy decriminalized. They don't want polygamy legalized, just decriminalized (yeah, right).
O'Reilly asked how the guy would stay out of jail, and he said "by staying quiet about their lifestyle." The guy said that he didn't want to stay quiet anymore, that he just wanted to be left alone to live his life "according to his faith."
O'Reilly was trying to compare them to the creeping activism of gay marriage, but these people were stopping just short of that.
My first take-aways were from the interview were:
1. The timing was suspicious. They published a thick book about their lifestyle. It takes a significant investment from a publisher to put out a book like that. It seems to me that the purpose of a liberal publisher putting out a book like that now is to make Romney seem scary to people, via association with these people through Mormonism.
2. Four adults with 24 children? That sounds like the makings of a tribe, a clan. That's how the sheikdoms in the middle-east were formed. Do we really want to see American civil order degenerate into private tribal enclaves?
I don’t give a crap if he’s Zorastoran. What bothers me is that he’s a liberal.
The Law of Consecration Oath Mitt Romney has sworn in the Mormon temple: "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants [he displays the book], in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and EVERYTHING with which the Lord has blessed you, or WITH which he MAY bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion." Source: What is an LDS Church/Mormon temple marriage/sealing? [Q: Please define 'Zion': The LDS PR Web site (lds.org) defines its primary meaning: "membership in the [LDS] church.