Posted on 10/10/2011 9:30:26 PM PDT by beancounter13
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Perry |
Cain |
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2nd Amendment |
Has a firearm, a CCL, and he uses them. Has a long history of 2nd Amendment support: |
Thinks gun control should be left to the state and local governments placing him at odds with Heller and McDonald. |
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Abortion |
Perry signed into law a regulation would have required women seeking an abortion to view a sonogram and listen to the fetus's heartbeat while a doctor rattled off a detailed description of the fetus's anatomical development — and then forcibly ponder their decision for an additional 24 hours before an abortion could be performed. |
Pro-life from conception, pro-life from conception, pro-life from conception.
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Gay Marriage (note the so-called 'flip-flop' actually serves to showcase Perry's support of the 10th Amendment) |
Rick Perry has signed a pledge to back a federal constitutional amendment against gay marriage – a reversal from a month ago when the Texas governor said he so supported individual states' rights that he was fine with New York's approval of same-sex marriage. |
Supports traditional marriage, support traditional marriage
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Global Warming / Cap & Trade |
Long history of fighting the EPA as Texas Governor: [The EPA] relied heavily upon findings by climate-change scientists that have been subsequently discredited by the scientists' own e-mails .... |
I don't believe global war-- global warming is real. Do we have climate change? Yes. Is it a crisis, no. And this is why I strongly oppose the-- the cap in trade
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Red Flags |
Use of a liberal term (“heartless”) while discussing an issue (in-state tuition for residents of non-citizens). |
Use of a liberal term (“insensitive”) in referring to a racial accusation before the facts were revealed. |
I read this interview at your link when it came out and I examined Perry's answers closely. I invite other Freepers concerned with the immigration issue to do so, and there was a thread on it as well.
When Perry was about whether he supported building the fence originally envisioned by the Secure Fence Act, he did more than merely side-step the question but pretty clearly indicated that he would not build that fence, but only fence that he deems to be "strategic" which is so vague and unspecific as to sound like a typical campaign promise.
He did not challenge the premise in the question that he would make avoiding the inconveniencing of farmers his first priority.
He then went back into his stock talking point about boots on the ground. We all know that maintaining forever the annual funding for high numbers of boots on the ground is a chimera. But he rejects building out the fence, which would let us get by with a lower annual appropriation for fewer boots on the ground.
Here's what we can expect from President Perry in my view:
1. A couple of years of higher "boots on the ground" and a bit of fencing here and there for public relations purposes. The "boots" focus on criminal activity such as drug cartels and not so much on hindering ordinary illegals.
2. Further foot-dragging on requiring employers to screen employees for illegals using databases
3. After a couple of years, Perry declares the border "secure" enough, saying that it is impossible to achieve perfection.
4. Perry pushes "comprehensive immigration reform" through congress. The Republican congress is unable to resist this when it comes from someone in their own party.
His idea of legalizing them but denying them voting rights will not fly for long. Americans do not want an entire class of "second class citizens." Either they will go ahead and give them the path to citizenship at the first bite at the apple, or wait a couple of years and then do it.
Tom Tancredo begs to differ. Perry No Conservative
It’s the truth. The loser blew it with his pandering to illegals. ESAD.
Sorry, I disagree with you.
You missed my post about CEOs. They know exactly what they say, and when they say it. People don’t get to be CEOs otherwise.
I’m talking about the majority US citizens — *not* just Texans. I know you Texans want to make this into a states’ rights issue. But immigration is a Federal issue, and if a state offers in-state tuition to illegal aliens, it acts as an incentive for more illegals to enter the US (Texas, in this case).
Meanwhile, as I posted earlier, there are hundreds of thousands of foreigners who have been waiting in line for years to apply for legal entry to the US (and I personally know some of them) who are witnessing this stuff and wondering what the advantage is to doing this the legal way when those who break the law get to jump to the front of the line and get, in this case, in-state tuition rewards in Texas which my natural-born citizen children from Virginia could not even qualify for.
One simply cannot justify this to those foreigners who are for years and years waiting to gain entry to this country legally.
WooHoo Excellent!
You are ignorant of the facts, uninformed, or a liar. Perry is not for amnesty, has said so, it is well known, inarguable, and unquestioned by those who read and and hear. Anything to the contrary is Leftist propaganda peddled by a few useful idiots on the Right.
What's with D-students and open-borders. Ted Kennedy, John McCain, and now Ricky Perry. All stupid men who barely got through college. All immigration leftists. Some kind of pattern there.
A No-Romney Zone. Wise indeed, Jim-san.
Excellent article.
He’s tanking. Shamnesty is so 2008. He’s done.
No! Never!
Plenty of CEO’s have said the wrong thing when fed bad info and disinformation.
Good post. I don’t think you should or will be zotted.
Neither Cain nor Perry are perfect, but both are acceptable.
I’m for Cain at the moment.
In a final op-ed, Herman Cain noted his opposition to the 2007 Comprehensive Immigration reform plan and noted four things that congress could do concerning immigration.
These items were to secure the borders convincingly,
expand the temporary worker program for skilled legal immigrants,
establish a reliable legal immigrant identification program
and then propose a reasonable program for the 12 million (and counting) illegal persons who broke our laws to get here, but not amnesty.
In additional interviews, Mr Cain stated that comprehensive immigration reform was a "do nothing" policy which would not solve the problem of illegal immigration.
He stated that a Cain administration would do three things:
secure the border;
enforce the laws;
promote the existing path to citizenship.
” A No-Romney Zone. ....” <<<
Not for long. If the Right and the Left together can successfully kill off Perry it will be all Zone Romney. The Left and the Right are all paired up to do just that, and new found buddy team, Cain and RINO Romney. That only looks bizarre to me though. It’s no problem to those on this thread. The Left, the Right, Cain, Romney, Rinos are all guns trained on Perry. Weird.
You are tanking in kool aide. For the Left. Wipe your mouth.
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