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Eric Holder & Operation Fast & Furious - A national travesty & crime against the Republic
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | October 11, 2011 | Jeff Head

Posted on 10/11/2011 1:19:54 PM PDT by Jeff Head

Operation Fast and Furious was a BATF led operation that sold guns to the drug lords in Mexico through intermediaries in a supposed attempt to track the guns and the channels feeding the drug lords. Trouble is, the program actually put over 2000 high powerewd rifles, including 50 caliber sniper rifles, into the hands of the Drug Lords and was not effectively tracking them. Over 1500 of them are still "missing." Ultimately, the Gun Stores involved and the agents themselves became whistleblowers because of their concerns that our own government was, in effect, arming the Mexican Drug Cartels.

As a result, several Americans have been killed by these weapoons, including US Law Enforcement officers, and over 200 Mexican citizens have been killed. It is patently illegal to do what the BATF did, and the operation was supported and directed by the Department of Justice, over which Eric Holder, President Obama's Attorney General presides. This is the same Eric Holder who dismissed charges against Black Panther activists filmed on election day in 2008 intimidating voters at polls. They were dressed in military style uniforms and holding night sticks. Voter intimidation is a serious matter, but Eric Holder refused to prosecute.

The U.S. House of Representatives began investigating this operation, with the House Oversight Committee leading the way. When requesting information from the Department of Justice, the Committee received volumous pages of documents, where most of them were completely redacted.

Many agents, BATF supervisors, the owners of the gun stroes used by the BATF, the relatives of those killed with the weapons, and department of justice attorneys and managment were called to testify ands the investigation grew.

Ultimately, the Committee called the head of the Department of Justice, the U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder to testify. When called before Congress in May of 2011 on the Fast and Furious Operation, Holder indicated as an answer to a direct question regarding exaclty when he heard of and knew about the Fast and Furious Operaton, that "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks,"

Since that time, numerous emails have surfaced, directed to him, not only informing him of the operation, but reviewing in detail its status. These emails date back to over a year before his testimony. In addition, a video has also surfaced where Holder went to Mexico two years prior and briefed the Mexican's on the upcoming operation. When confronted with these clear and obvious inconsistancies, Eric Holder replied to Congress with the following letter.


ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER'S RESPONSE LETTER TO REPRESENTATIVE ISSA
(Issa is the Head of the House Oversight Committee to which Holder must report)
October 7, 2011
The Honorable Darrell E. Issa Chairman Committee on Oversight and Government Reform U.S. House of Representatives Washington, DC

Dear Messrs. Chairmen and Senator Grassley, Congressman Conyers, and Congressman Cummings:

I have watched for some months now as the facts surrounding Operation Fast and Furious have been developed on the public record. I have not spoken at length on this subject out of deference to the review being conducted, at my request, by our Department’s Inspector General. However, in the past few days, the public discourse concerning these issues has become so base and so harmful to interests that I hope we all share that I must now address these issues notwithstanding the Inspector General’s ongoing review.

For example, I simply cannot sit idly by as a Majority Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform suggests, as happened this week, that law enforcement and government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered “accessories to murder.” Such irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric must be repudiated in the strongest possible terms. Those who serve in the ranks of law enforcement are our Nation’s heroes and deserve our Nation’s thanks, not the disrespect that is being heaped on them by those who seek political advantage. I trust you feel similarly and I call on you to denounce these statements. I also want to be very clear that protecting American citizens from the devastating effects of gun violence is among the most important responsibilities of the Department of Justice. Likewise, ensuring that weapons sold here do not flow south to Mexico is of paramount importance. We are committed to disrupting and dismantling the organizations that traffic weapons across our borders and I am proud to stand with our brave law enforcement officers who fight every day to protect our citizens and those of Mexico from the effects of gun violence and illegal gun trafficking.

A. Fast and Furious was a Flawed Response to a Serious Problem on the Southwest Border

According to ATF, it took into evidence nationwide approximately 35,000 firearms in FY 201 1. In FY 2010, the number was approximately 37,500. During that same period, ATF reports that it took into evidence nationwide over 5 million rounds of ammunition. Still, the Southwest Border remains the front line in the battle against illegal gun trafficking. ATF and our prosecutors struggle mightily to make cases against gun smugglers and do outstanding work on a daily basis in an effort to stop the flow of guns across our borders.

Notwithstanding the seriousness of the problem faced on the Southwest Border, there is no doubt that Operation Fast and Furious was fundamentally flawed. Regrettably, its effects will be felt for years to come as weapons that should have been interdicted but were not continue to show up at crime scenes in this country and in Mexico. This is both tragic and completely unacceptable. I want to be very clear that we must aim to disrupt and dismantle the dangerous cartels that operate south of our border. That said, in our pursuit of that goal we must take all steps possible to prevent guns from crossing our border and the desire to bring cartel leaders to justice does not and cannot justify losing track of dangerous weapons. For that very reason, in 201 1, after the controversy about this matter arose, I took decisive action to ensure that such operations are never again undertaken. First, I referred the matter to the Department’s Inspector General for review so the facts underlying it could come out. Second, I instructed the Deputy Attorney General to reiterate to our prosecutors and law enforcement components that Department policy prohibits the design or conduct of undercover operations which include the uncontrolled crossing of guns across the border. In addition, new leadership is now in place both at ATF and in the United States Attorney’s Office in Arizona. It has become clear that the flawed tactics employed in Fast and Furious were not limited to that operation and were actually employed in an investigation conducted during the prior Administration. Regardless, those tactics should never again be adopted in any investigation.

B. No Knowledge of Fast and Furious’ Misguided Tactics

Much has been made in the past few days about my congressional testimony earlier this year regarding Fast and Furious. My testimony was truthful and accurate and I have been consistent on this point throughout. I have no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious or of hearing its name prior to the public controversy about it. Prior to early 2011, I certainly never knew about the tactics employed in the operation and it is my understanding that the former United States Attorney for the District of Arizona and the former Acting Director and Deputy Director of ATF have told Congress that they, themselves, were unaware of the tactics employed. I understand that they have also told Congress that they never briefed me or other Department leadership on the misguided tactics that were used in Fast and Furious. Of course, that is not surprising for, as Chairman Issa made clear in an interview on CNN just this week, even the former Acting Director of ATF “has said he didn’t know about” the tactics being used in the field by his agency.

In the past few days, some have pointed to documents that we provided to Congress as evidence that I was familiar with Fast and Furious earlier than I have testified. That simply is not the case and those suggestions mischaracterize the process by which I receive information concerning the activities of the Department’s many components. On a weekly basis, my office typically receives over a hundred pages of so-called “weekly reports” that, while addressed to me, actually are provided to and reviewed by members of my staff and the staff of the Office of the Deputy Attorney General. The weekly reports contain short summaries of matters that the agencies deem of interest that week. Sometimes, the summaries are simply a sentence-long and other times they consist of a paragraph. In some cases, the summaries are of policy-related issues or upcoming events. In other cases, the summaries are brief, highlevel reviews of pending matters or investigations. It is important to look at the documents supposedly at issue here and, for that reason, I have attached them to this letter and am making them public in the form they previously were provided by us to Congress. Please note that none of these summaries say anything about the unacceptable tactics employed by ATF.

Attorneys in my office and in the Office of the Deputy Attorney General review these weekly reports and bring to my attention only those matters deemed to require my consideration or action; given the volume of material to which I must devote my attention, I do not and cannot read them cover-tocover. Here, no issues concerning Fast and Furious were brought to my attention because the information presented in the reports did not suggest a problem. Rather, the entries suggest active law enforcement action being taken to combat a firearms-trafficking organization that was moving weapons to Mexico. For example, the ATF weekly report for July 19-23,20 10 briefly described the seizure in Phoenix of 73 firearms and 250 AK-47 drum magazines from a local business as part of Operation Fast and Furious, again with no mention of any unacceptable tactics.

If a component of the Department has concerns about a particular matter, there are established avenues for raising them with my office or that of the Deputy Attorney General and a weekly report is not one of them. As Attorney General, I am not and cannot be familiar with the operational details of any particular investigation being conducted in an ATF field office unless those details are brought to my attention. That did not happen with Fast and Furious until the public controversy arose in 201 1. Senator Grassley has suggested that I was aware of Operation Fast and Furious from letters he provided to me on or about January 3 1,2011 that were addressed to the former Acting Director of ATF. However, those letters referred only to an ATF umbrella initiative on the Southwest Border that started under the prior Administration — Project Gunrunner — and not to Operation Fast and Furious. To be sure, during 2010 I knew generally that ATF was conducting gun trafficking operations along the Southwest Border and elsewhere in the country since that is a core part of its mission given the large number of firearms flowing to Mexico each year from the United States. I also was aware of the existence of Project Gunrunner. More specifically, however, I now understand some senior officials within the Department were aware at the time that there was an operation called Fast and Furious although they were not advised of the unacceptable operational tactics being used in it. For example, I understand that we have provided to Congress materials from a March 2010 monthly meeting between the then-Acting Deputy Attorney General and senior ATF officials that included discussion of Fast and Furious. That meeting, of course, occurred shortly before Chairman Issa received his own briefing regarding Fast and Furious from some of the same ATF officials. I am aware that Chairman Issa has said that he was not briefed on the unacceptable details of Fast and Furious. Like Chairman Issa, the then- Acting Deputy Attorney General was not told of the unacceptable tactics employed in the operation in his regular monthly meetings with ATF to discuss its activities throughout the United States and abroad.

C. Congress Has Failed to Consider Whether Additional Tools Are Needed to Stem the Flow of Guns into Mexico

ATF witnesses testified before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that the agency’s ability to stem the flow of guns from the United States into Mexico is severely impaired by a lack of effective law enforcement tools. For example, a number of witnesses indicated that current penalties for illegal straw purchases are inadequate to deter such activity or to induce cooperation with law enforcement authorities after a violation is detected. Likewise, the lack of reporting requirements for multiple long gun purchases in a short period of time hindered law enforcement efforts to combat gun trafficking. Yet, the House of Representatives has voted to block a rule that requires such reporting on the Southwest Border.

As I have said, the fact that even a single gun was not interdicted in this operation and found its way to Mexico is unacceptable. Equally unacceptable, however, is the fact that too many in Congress are opposed to any discussion of fixing loopholes in our laws that facilitate the staggering flow of guns each year across our border to the south. I cannot help but note that at the same time that some members of Congress understandably criticize the Fast and Furious operation, they vehemently refuse to consider whether ATF has the resources and legal tools it needs to do its job — tools that would be entirely consistent with the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.

A telling moment in this regard came during one of the Fast and Furious hearings held by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform when Representative Maloney sought to question an ATF witness about potential reforms to our laws that would help stem the flow of illegal weapons. Representative Maloney was cut-off in mid-sentence by Chairman Issa, who then “cautioned” the witness that it would not be “valid testimony” to respond to such questions because the Committee was not interested in “proposed legislation and the like[.]” While failing to interdict weapons is an unacceptable tactic to stop the flow of illegal weapons, it seems clear that some in Congress are more interested in using this regrettable incident to score political points than in addressing the underlying problem. Even in the face of an unprecedented flow of guns across the border, too many in Congress still oppose every effort to reform our gun laws in ways that would make the United States and our Mexican neighbors safer.

Until we move beyond the current political climate — where real solutions take a back seat to both political posturing and making headlines on cable news programs, and is deemed more important than actually solving our country’s difficult challenges — nothing is going to change. I hope we can engage in a more responsible dialogue on this subject in the future. There is much we all need to do together to stop gun violence on both sides of the border and make our Nation safer.

Sincerely,

Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Enclosures


After receiving this response...portions of it excusing his own actions and that of the people involved, and blaiming his own inconsistencies on his own staff supposedly "not informing him" of the details of emails, and also misdirecting the issue by accusing Congress itself of not passing enough laws to control guns, Representative Issa, who is heading the Committee investigating this wreckless and deadly operation responded back to Attorney General Holder.

Here is his letter:


REPRESENTATIVE ISSA'S RESPONSE LETTER TO ERIC HOLDER
October 9, 2011
Dear Attorney General Holder:

From the beginning of the congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious, the Department of Justice has offered a roving set of ever-changing explanations to justify its involvement in this reckless and deadly program. These defenses have been aimed at undermining the investigation. From the start, the Department insisted that no wrongdoing had occurred and asked Senator Grassley and me to defer our oversight responsibilities over its concerns about our purported interference with its ongoing criminal investigations. Additionally, the Department steadfastly insisted that gunwalking did not occur.

Once documentary and testimonial evidence strongly contradicted these claims, the Department attempted to limit the fallout from Fast and Furious to the Phoenix Field Division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). When that effort also proved unsuccessful, the Department next argued that Fast and Furious resided only within ATF itself, before eventually also assigning blame to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona. All of these efforts were designed to circle the wagons around DOJ and its political appointees.

To that end, just last month, you claimed that Fast and Furious did not reach the upper levels of the Justice Department. Documents discovered through the course of the investigation, however, have proved each and every one of these claims advanced by the Department to be untrue. It appears your latest defense has reached a new low. Incredibly, in your letter from Friday you now claim that you were unaware of Fast and Furious because your staff failed to inform you of information contained in memos that were specifically addressed to you. At best, this indicates negligence and incompetence in your duties as Attorney General. At worst, it places your credibility into serious doubt.

Following the Committee’s issuance of a subpoena over six months ago, I strongly believed that the Department would fully cooperate with Congress and support this investigation with all the means at its disposal. The American people deserve no less. Unfortunately, the Department’s cooperation to date has been minimal. Hundreds of pages of documents that have been produced to my Committee are duplicative, and hundreds more contain substantial redactions, rendering them virtually worthless. The Department has actively engaged in retaliation against multiple whistleblowers, and has, on numerous occasions, attempted to disseminate false and misleading information to the press in an attempt to discredit this investigation.

Your letter dated October 7 is deeply disappointing. Instead of pledging all necessary resources to assist the congressional investigation in discovering the truth behind the fundamentally flawed Operation Fast and Furious, your letter instead did little but obfuscate, shift blame, berate, and attempt to change the topic away from the Department’s responsibility in the creation, implementation, and authorization of this reckless program. You claim that, after months of silence, you “must now address these issues” over Fast and Furious because of the harmful discourse of the past few days. Yet, the only major development of these past few days has been the release of multiple documents showing that you and your senior staff had been briefed, on numerous occasions, about Fast and Furious.

The Mexican Cartels

A month after you became Attorney General, you spoke of the danger of the Mexican drug cartels, and the Sinaloa cartel in particular. The cartels, you said, “are lucrative, they are violent, and they are operated with stunning planning and precision.” You promised that under your leadership “these cartels will be destroyed.” You vowed that the Department of Justice would “continue to work with [its] counterparts in Mexico, through information sharing, training and mutual cooperation to jointly fight these cartels, both in Mexico and the United States.”

Under your leadership, however, Operation Fast and Furious has proven these promises hollow. According to one agent, Operation Fast and Furious “armed the cartel. It is disgusting.” Fast and Furious simply served as a convenient means for dangerous cartels to acquire upwards of 2,000 assault-style weapons. On top of that, the Government of Mexico was not informed about Fast and Furious. In fact, DOJ and ATF officials actively engaged in hiding information about Fast and Furious from not only Mexican officials, but also U.S. law enforcement officials operating in Mexico for fear that they would inform their Mexican counterparts. This strategy is inapposite and contradicts the promises you made to the American people.

Your September 7, 2011 Statement

On September 7, 2011, you said that “[t]he notion that [Fast and Furious] reaches into the upper levels of the Justice Department is something that at this point I don’t think is supported by the facts and I think once we examine it and once the facts are revealed we’ll see that’s not the case.” Unfortunately, the facts directly contradict this statement.

Lanny Breuer, the Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, clearly a member of the Department’s senior leadership, knew about Fast and Furious as early as March 2010. In fact, I have learned that the amount of detail shared with Breuer’s top deputies about Fast and Furious is simply astounding.

For example, Manuel Celis-Acosta was the “biggest fish” of the straw purchasing ring in Phoenix. From the time the investigation started in September 2009 until March 15, 2010, Manuel Celis-Acosta acquired at least 852 firearms valued at around $500,000 through straw purchasers. Yet in 2009, Celis-Acosta reported an Arizona taxable income of only $15,475. Between September 2009 and late January 2010, 139 of these firearms were recovered, 81 in Mexico alone. Some of these firearms were recovered less than 24 hours after they were bought.

This information, and hundreds of pages worth of additional information, was included in highly detailed wiretap applications sent for authorization to Breuer’s top deputies. It is my understanding, the Department applied to the United States District Court for the District of Arizona for numerous wire taps from March 2010 to July 2010. These wire tap applications were reviewed and approved by several Deputy Assistant Attorney Generals, including Kenneth A. Blanco, John C. Keeney, and Jason M. Weinstein. Breuer’s top deputies approved these wiretap applications to be used against individuals associated with the known drug cartels. As I understand it, the wire tap applications contain rich detail of the reckless operational tactics being employed by your agents in Phoenix. Although Breuer and his top deputies were informed of the operational details and tactics of Fast and Furious, they did nothing to stop the program. In fact, on a trip to Mexico Breuer trumpeted Fast and Furious as a promising investigation.

Gary Grindler, the then-Deputy Attorney General and currently your Chief of Staff, received an extremely detailed briefing on Operation Fast and Furious on March 12, 2010. In this briefing, Grindler learned such minutiae as the number of times that Uriel Patino, a straw purchaser on food stamps who ultimately acquired 720 firearms, went in to a cooperating gun store and the amount of guns that he had bought. When former Acting ATF Director Ken Melson, a career federal prosecutor, learned similar information, he became sick to his stomach:

"I had pulled out all Patino’s — and ROIs is, I’m sorry, report of investigation — and you know, my stomach being in knots reading the number of times he went in and the amount of guns that he bought. Transcribed interview of Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson at 42".

At the time of his briefing in March of last year, Grindler knew that Patino had purchased 313 weapons and paid for all of them in cash. Unlike Melson, Grindler clearly saw nothing wrong with this. If Grindler had had the sense to shut this investigation down right then, he could have prevented the purchase of an additional 407 weapons by Patino alone. Instead, Grindler did nothing to stop the program.

Following this briefing, it is clear that Grindler did one of two things. Either, he alerted you to the name and operational details of Fast and Furious, in which case your May 3, 2011 testimony in front of Congress was false; or, he failed to inform you of the name and the operational details of Fast and Furious, in which case Grindler engaged in gross dereliction of his duties as Acting Deputy Attorney General. It is fair to infer from the fact that Grindler remains as your Chief of Staff that he did not engage in gross dereliction of his duties and told you about the program as far back as March of 2010.

In the summer of 2010, at the latest, you were undoubtedly informed about Fast and Furious. On at least five occasions you were told of the connection between Fast and Furious and a specific Mexican cartel – the very cartel that you had vowed to destroy. You were informed that Manuel Celis-Acosta and his straw purchasers were responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels. Yet, you did nothing to stop this program.

You failed to own up to your responsibility to safeguard the American public by hiding behind “[a]ttorneys in [your] office and the Office of the Deputy Attorney General,” who you now claim did not bring this information to your attention. Holder Letter, supra note 1. As a result of your failure to act on these memos sent to you, nearly 500 additional firearms were purchased under Fast and Furious.

The facts simply do not support any claim that Fast and Furious did not reach the highest levels of the Justice Department. Actually, Fast and Furious did reach the ultimate authority in the Department – you.

Your May 3, 2011 Statement

On May 3, 2011, I asked you directly when you first knew about the operation known as Fast and Furious. You responded directly, and to the point, that you weren’t “sure of the exact date, but [you] probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.” This statement, made before Congress, has proven to be patently untrue. Documents released by the Department just last week showed that you received at least seven memos about Fast and Furious starting as early as July 2010.

In your letter Friday, you blamed your staff for failing to inform you about Operation Fast and Furious when they reviewed the memos sent to you last summer. Your staff, therefore, was certainly aware of Fast and Furious over a year ago. Lanny Breuer was aware of Fast and Furious as early as March 2010, and Gary Grindler was also aware of Fast and Furious as early as March 2010. Given this frequency of high level involvement with Fast and Furious as much as a year prior to your May 3, 2011 testimony, it simply is not believable that you were not briefed on Fast and Furious until a few weeks before your testimony. At the very least, you should have known about Fast and Furious well before then. The current paper trail, which will only grow more robust as additional documents are discovered, creates the strong perception that your statement in front of Congress was less than truthful.

The February 4, 2011 Letter

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this intransigence is that the Department of Justice has been lying to Congress ever since the inquiry into Fast and Furious began. On February 4, 2011, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote that “ATF makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transport into Mexico.” This letter, vetted by both the senior ranks of ATF as well as the Office of the Deputy Attorney General, is a flat-out lie.

As we understand it, in March 2010, top deputies to Lanny Breuer were informed that law enforcement officers intercepted calls that demonstrated that Manuel Celis-Acosta was conspiring to purchase and transport firearms for the purpose of trafficking the firearms from the United States into Mexico. Not only was ATF aware of this information, but so was the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. This information was shared with the Criminal Division. All of these organizations are components of the Department of Justice, and they were all aware of the illegal purchase of firearms and their eventual transportation into Mexico.

These firearms were not interdicted. They were not stopped. Your agents allowed these firearms purchases to continue, sometimes even monitoring them in person, and within days some of these weapons were being recovered in Mexico. Despite widespread knowledge within its senior ranks that this practice was occurring, when asked on numerous occasions about the veracity of this letter, the Department has shockingly continued to stand by its false statement of February 4, 2011.

Mr. Attorney General, you have made numerous statements about Fast and Furious that have eventually been proven to be untrue. Your lack of trustworthiness while speaking about Fast and Furious has called into question your overall credibility as Attorney General. The time for deflecting blame and obstructing our investigation is over. The time has come for you to come clean to the American public about what you knew about Fast and Furious, when you knew it, and who is going to be held accountable for failing to shut down a program that has already had deadly consequences, and will likely cause more casualties for years to come.

Operation Fast and Furious was the Department’s most significant gun trafficking case. It related to two of your major initiatives – destroying the Mexican cartels and reducing gun violence on both sides of the border. On your watch, it went spectacularly wrong. Whether you realize yet or not, you own Fast and Furious. It is your responsibility.

Sincerely, Darrell Issa Chairman House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform


This is a very serious...deadly serious matter. Innocent Americans and Mexicans have been killed with weapons the US Government allowed the Drig Cartels to illegally purchase. It is likely that a special prosecutor will be appointed. It is likely that there will be indictments.

Some of the agents involved and others have indicated that the root goal of this program was actually to create gun violence in the hopes of enacting more stringent gun laws, particularly against gun stores. That has yet to be proven.

In any case, this program which reaches to the top of the Department of Justice, also has tentacles that reach directly into the White House. One of the people directing the operation apparently communicated with and reported the progress of the program to one of Obama's National Security team directly within the whitehouse.

Some links regarding Fast and Furious:

Fast and Furious a Catostrophic Disaster

Congressional Report Slams ATF's Operation Fast and Furious

Eric Holder must explain Fast and Furious

BATF Officials implicated in Operation Fast and Furipous

How Mexican killers got guns from Fast and Furious

BATF Chief Replaced after inquiry into Fast and Furious

Gunrunning Timeline: DOJ's Operation Fast and Furious

Guns from Fast and Furious found at MExican crime scene

Guns from Fast and Furious found in El Paso

New Document Show Attorney General Eric Holder knew of Fast and Furious

Calls mount for Attorney Generral Holder's Resignation>

That our own government could so wrecklessly arm abject criminals and enemies of thois nation, and then not adequately track those weapons or retrieve them before they were used, and that these issues led directly to American deaths is wreckless endagerment at best, conspiracy to commit crimes, and/or manslaughter and murder at worst. There must be acocuntability for this travesty.



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To: Joe Brower; basil

Thanks Joe and Basil. God bless you both.

It is just a little too coincidental for me that we now find that the Iranians were trying to get Mexican Drug Cartel help in their planned attack inside America.

On one hand you have Holder arming these cartels with high powered rifles, including 50 caliber sniper weapons, and on the other hand we find the Iranians trying to contact those same cartels to help in their attack against targets within America.

Ears should be pricking up over this. Holder and those involved with Fast and Furious already have innocent American and Mexican blood on their hands...now other enemies want to get in on the actions.


51 posted on 10/12/2011 6:53:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: pabianice

See my post 51. The Mexican Drug Cartels that the Iranians wanted to use could have been the same as, or in league with, the Cartels Holder rhimself was arming through Fast and Furious. Just a little too coincidental for my tastes.


52 posted on 10/12/2011 6:55:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: KoRn
It amazes me that the Mexican “government” aren’t up in arms over this. Their lack of outrage may indicate they were either in on it, or gave the ATF permission to do it.

It could also indicate the backroom wheeling and dealing that our State Department specializes in. I wonder what Hillary promised the Mexicans in exchange for not making trouble over this.

53 posted on 10/12/2011 6:57:16 AM PDT by Kenton (Barack Obama - Lowering American Expectations Since 2008)
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To: Jeff Head
Good to see your moniker.

5.56mm

54 posted on 10/12/2011 7:05:53 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Jeff Head

I had the same thoughts, Jeff—but then decided that maybe I was being a conspiracy nut................now you make me think that that is not too far-fetched.


55 posted on 10/12/2011 7:18:21 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kenton; KoRn
Actually, quite a few Mexican officials have been making a big deal over this.

Mexican Officials Outraged. Want to Extradite US Officials over Fast and Furious

Mexican officials furious over Fast and Furoious

Obama admin faces outrage over guns in Mexico

56 posted on 10/12/2011 7:22:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: M Kehoe

Thank you my FRiend. Traitorous actions afoot aplenty in this admin. 2012 cannot come soon enough. God grant that we can route these vipers out.


57 posted on 10/12/2011 7:32:18 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MestaMachine

Fast & Furious Ping!


58 posted on 10/12/2011 8:27:21 AM PDT by houeto
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To: Jeff Head; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; ...

Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:41:10 AM · 48 of 53
MestaMachine to Redleg Duke; Travis McGee
I hear scuttlebutt, but this is what is public so far.
EX CIA and other intel guys are publicly denouncing this iran thing. They say it is way too sloppy to be an iranian op. Bob Baer says if quds wanted you dead you’d be dead already.
NO ONE who IS anyone beleves his crap. And the gop idiots that are calling for retaliation on iran better get a brain or two between them.
Waiting to hear publicly from Mike Scheuer. Even though I think he is a little..odd...he usually is right on when it comes to stuff like this.

Remember, this is the SAME crew who high-fived when they issued the false report that iran had given up its nucler ambitions and sabataged GWB’s admin.


59 posted on 10/12/2011 8:51:18 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: houeto

Thank you!


60 posted on 10/12/2011 8:52:25 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: sergeantdave; Jeff Head; BCR #226

“...It’s also my belief that if we don’t hold these fascist traitors accountable, they will one day try to murder millions of Americans...”

I believe you are entirely correct, Sarge...

And we just sit and wait for it.

It’s sort of like waiting for the fire department while your house is burning down. “Our” side says “wait, wait, wait... don’t fight the fire. Let the professionals do it.”

And we wait for “the professionals”...and keep waiting, and all the while the things we love and hold dear are being BURNED AWAY.

One of the protestors in LA was holding up a sign; it said “OPEN YOUR EYES! THE REVOLUTION IS HERE, NOW!” (On Drudge you can see it). His face is masked, because the cowardly little assh*le is afraid to show his mug - along with hundreds of others. They look like LaRaza assh*les.

You can see more pics here:
http://www.ringospictures.com/

and here:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/11/occupy-l-a-speaker-violence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/

They’re calling for bloodshed and violence now, openly.

“Declare the democrat party a seditious organization and arrest its leaders as traitors...”

and

“...Appoint a military governor to clean out that snake’s nest of communists...”

Should have been done a long time ago. Nobody had the balls to do it. It’s way past that now. FDR’s admin was loaded with communists and subversives, and nobody did anything then - when it was politically amenable to doing so.

“...Doing these two things will prevent the imminent second civil war...”

I think we’re going to get it no matter what.


61 posted on 10/12/2011 9:09:11 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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Eric Holder & Operation Fast & Furious - A national travesty & crime against the Republic

Check out # 59 as a starting point, and go from there.

62 posted on 10/12/2011 9:14:27 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: MestaMachine

Holder’s annocement yesterday, IMHO, was pure politics and covering/deflection for the deep water that is starting to run over fast and furious.

Perhaps there was somehting there...but the fact that the Iranian guy contacted a DEA informer who was taken for a Mexican Drug Cartel, and the Mexican Drug Cartels also happen to be what Fast and Furious is all about...somehow just has a hard time passing the smell test.


63 posted on 10/12/2011 9:45:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GOPJ

Have any of you heard of the “Chicago Combine”?


64 posted on 10/12/2011 10:07:32 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Jeff Head

This regimes lack of regard for the rule of law, the constitution and common decency is directly - I say, DIRECTLY - comparable to the conduct of the National Socialists and the old Soviet Republic. These will-to-power driven monsters are on the road to slaughter and atrocity. There will be only one way to stop them.


65 posted on 10/12/2011 10:39:07 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: LucyT

Issa subpoenas Holder, DoJ for full documentation on Fast & Furious

Here’s the text of the subpoena that Issa posted:
In accordance with the attached schedule instructions, you, Eric H. Holder Jr., are required to produce all records in unredacted form described below:
1.All communications referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious, the Jacob Chambers case, or any Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) firearms trafficking case based in Phoenix, Arizona, to or from the following individuals:
a. Eric Holder Jr., Attorney General;
b. David Ogden, Former Deputy Attorney General;
c. Gary Grindler, Office of the Attorney General and former Acting Deputy Attorney General;
d. James Cole, Deputy Attorney General;
e. Lanny Breuer, Assistant Attorney General;
f. Ronald Weich, Assistant Attorney General;
g. Kenneth Blanco, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;
h. Jason Weinstein, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;
i. John Keeney, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;
j. Bruce Swartz, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;
k. Matt Axelrod, Associate Deputy Attorney General;
l. Ed Siskel, former Associate Deputy Attorney General;
m. Brad Smith, Office of the Deputy Attorney General;
n. Kevin Carwile, Section Chief, Capital Case Unit, Criminal Division;
o. Joseph Cooley, Criminal Fraud Section, Criminal Division; and,
p. James Trusty, Acting Chief, Organized Crime and Gang Section.
2. All communications between and among Department of Justice (DOJ) employees and Executive Office of the President employees, including but not limited to Associate Communications Director Eric Schultz, referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious or any other firearms trafficking cases.
3. All communications between DOJ employees and Executive Office of the President employees referring or relating to the President’s March 22, 2011 interview with Jorge Ramos of Univision.
4. All documents and communications referring or relating to any instances prior to February 4, 2011 where the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) failed to interdict weapons that had been illegally purchased or transferred.
5. All documents and communications referring or relating to any instances prior to February 4, 2011 where ATF broke off surveillance of weapons and subsequently became aware that those weapons entered Mexico.
6. All documents and communications referring or relating to the murder of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata, including but not limited to documents and communications regarding Zapata’s mission when he was murdered, Form for Reporting Information That May Become Testimony (FD-302), photographs of the crime scene, and investigative reports prepared by the FBI.
7. All communications to or from William Newell, former Special Agent-in-Charge for ATF’s Phoenix Field Division, between:
a. December 14, 2010 to January 25, 2011; and,
b. March 16, 2009 to March 19, 2009.
8. All Reports of Investigation (ROIs) related to Operation Fast and Furious or ATF Case Number 785115-10-0004.
9. All communications between and among Matt Axelrod, Kenneth Melson, and William Hoover referring or relating to ROIs identified pursuant to Paragraph 7.
10. All documents and communications between and among former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, Attorney General Eric Holder Jr., former Acting Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler, Deputy Attorney General James Cole, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, and Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious or any OCDETF case originating in Arizona.
11. All communications sent or received between:
a. December 16, 2009 and December 18, 2009, and;
b. March 9, 2011 and March 14, 2011, to or from the following individuals:
•Emory Hurley, Assistant U.S. Attorney, Office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona;
•Michael Morrissey, Assistant U.S. Attorney, Office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona;
•Patrick Cunningham, Chief, Criminal Division, Office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona;
•David Voth, Group Supervisor, ATF; and,
•Hope MacAllister, Special Agent, ATF.
12. All communications sent or received between December 15, 2010 and December 17, 2010 to or from the following individuals in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Arizona:
a. Dennis Burke, former United States Attorney;
b. Emory Hurley, Assistant United States Attorney;
c. Michael Morrissey, Assistant United States Attorney; and,
d. Patrick Cunningham, Chief of the Criminal Division.
13. All communications sent or received between August 7, 2009 and March 19, 2011 between and among former Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual; Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer; and, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Bruce Swartz.
14. All communications sent or received between August 7, 2009 and March 19, 2011 between and among former Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual and any Department of Justice employee based in Mexico City referring or relating to firearms trafficking initiatives, Operation Fast and Furious or any firearms trafficking case based in Arizona, or any visits by Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer to Mexico.
15. Any FD-302 relating to targets, suspects, defendants, or their associates, bosses, or financiers in the Fast and Furious investigation, including but not limited to any FD-302s ATF Special Agent Hope MacAllister provided to ATF leadership during the calendar year 2011.
16. Any investigative reports prepared by the FBI or Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) referring or relating to targets, suspects, or defendants in the Fast and Furious case.
17. Any investigative reports prepared by the FBI or DEA relating to the individuals described to Committee staff at the October 5, 2011 briefing at Justice Department headquarters as Target Number 1 and Target Number 2.
18. All documents and communications in the possession, custody or control of the DEA referring or relating to Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta.
19. All documents and communications between and among FBI employees in Arizona and the FBI Laboratory, including but not limited to employees in the Firearms/Toolmark Unit, referring or relating to the firearms recovered during the course of the investigation of Brian Terry’s death.
20. All agendas, meeting notes, meeting minutes, and follow-up reports for the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee of U.S. Attorneys between March 1, 2009 and July 31, 2011, referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious.
21. All weekly reports and memoranda for the Attorney General, either directly or through the Deputy Attorney General, from any employee in the Criminal Division, ATF, DEA, FBI, or the National Drug Intelligence Center created between November 1, 2009 and September 30, 2011.
22. All surveillance tapes recorded by pole cameras inside the Lone Wolf Trading Co. store between 12:00 a.m. on October 3, 2010 and 12:00 a.m. on October 7, 2010.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/12/issa-subpoenas-holder-doj-for-full-documentation-on-fast-furious/


66 posted on 10/12/2011 10:43:09 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Jeff Head

Great post Jeff... Bump it back up


67 posted on 10/12/2011 10:47:31 AM PDT by JDoutrider (The democrat party has morphed into an evil institution that is hell bent on destroying America.)
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To: sergeantdave

“2) Declare California a state in insurrection.”

Are there conditions in the Constitution, or in the Enabling Acts, that enumerate what states must comply with to remain in the Union? Seem the Federal govt is too powerful as it is. I sure wouldn’t want them to have to power to kick states out.


68 posted on 10/12/2011 11:02:17 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Study American history. Start with Thadeus Stevens and the Reconstruction Acts.

BTW, what conditions in the Constitution allow a state to enslave citizens, steal their property and establish a neo-fascist dictatorship?


69 posted on 10/12/2011 1:36:29 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Hotlanta Mike; Berlin_Freeper; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; Plummz; ...
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Issa subpoenas Holder, DoJ for full documentation on Fast & Furious

"... text of the subpoena that Issa posted:

In accordance with the attached schedule instructions, you, Eric H. Holder Jr., are required to produce all records in unredacted form described below:

1.All communications referring or relating to Operation Fast and Furious, the Jacob Chambers case, or any Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) firearms trafficking case based in Phoenix, Arizona, to or from the following individuals:

. . . . Check out List at # 66.

Also see comments # 63 and # 64 .

Thanks, Hotlanta Mike. Good find.

70 posted on 10/12/2011 3:11:01 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Noumenon

I pray 2012 allows us to stop them...but unless stopped soon, you are right.


71 posted on 10/12/2011 4:14:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: backhoe

Backhoe - I’ve been thinking about you!!! Just sent you a freepmail.


72 posted on 10/12/2011 5:23:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; LucyT
You don't just haphazardly come up with a list like this without some kind of supporting evidence that there is something there....


73 posted on 10/12/2011 5:51:19 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: Jeff Head
A question for Mitt Romney:

It seems likely that the Fast & Furious investigation will not be concluded by the time the next President is sworn in.

If so, would you, as President, continue this investigation to its conclusion and exact punishment on those who were found guilty?

Similarly, would you, as President, authorize an investigation into the collapse of Fannie and Freddy? And, if criminality was proven, prosecute those who were guilty to the full extent of the law?

74 posted on 10/12/2011 6:09:46 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Jeff Head

A grea deal hinges upon whether or not our enemies will respect the results of an election that removes them from power. Given who we’re dealing with, you can understand my skepticism.


75 posted on 10/12/2011 7:39:54 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: GregNH

Oh, there’s a there there...LOL


76 posted on 10/12/2011 8:33:00 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: LucyT; maggief; STARWISE

Looks like the shredders will be working overtime

Would like to see maps and percentages regarding the following information:

A. The cities with the largest drug use in the US
B The congress critters representing those cities
C The party affiliation of said reps
D. Where said reps stand on border closing
E. How much fed money goes into their districts to support “non working”

Sure would like to see GOP or FOX make an issue of this


77 posted on 10/13/2011 4:00:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Cain is able)
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To: Jeff Head

Intended to include you in last ping. While reading through comments it occurred to me that F & F may be part of the “keep the border open and the users in the cities under our control” /tinfoil


78 posted on 10/13/2011 4:08:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Cain is able)
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To: Jeff Head; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

ping to great presentation...sending out email links


79 posted on 10/13/2011 6:56:54 PM PDT by bitt ( Obama is so unpopular now that the Kenyans say he was definitely born in Hawaii)
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To: bitt

Thanks bitt. Looks like yet another one to bookmark for careful read and analysis.


80 posted on 10/13/2011 7:00:01 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for this post Jeff. Time for me to do yet another bookmark for careful reading and analysis.


81 posted on 10/13/2011 7:04:03 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Jeff Head; maine-iac7; youscreamIscream99; manc; wymck; ghost26; PJammers; myuval; ...

Thank you, Jeff!

Certainly deserves a Florida Freeper ping here!


82 posted on 10/13/2011 7:35:57 PM PDT by seekthetruth (We Patriots want a Commander In Chief who STANDS with Our Military!)
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To: Jeff Head

Brilliant, brilliant summary, JH.

I admit that I have been completely skeptical that this would ever gain traction. I hope to God that I can see just how wrong I was.

Thanks for compiling and posting it for us.


83 posted on 10/13/2011 7:36:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: sauropod

read


84 posted on 10/13/2011 7:37:20 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping, bitt. We need to find a way to get Jeff Head’s page to go viral.


85 posted on 10/13/2011 7:41:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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86 posted on 10/13/2011 7:51:29 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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87 posted on 10/13/2011 7:51:29 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Delta 21

God bless that vet...would to God that we had the money to put up 10,000 such signs all over this country.


88 posted on 10/13/2011 7:54:01 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: rlmorel

Thank you. These people are treacherous, traitorous enemies to all our nation stands for.

Their fundamental change has been shown for what it is, and what many of us knew it would be from the day we began looking into them...the dismantling of our free market and constitutional republic and the attempt to build a marxist command economy on its ruins.

Not on our watch!


89 posted on 10/13/2011 8:04:29 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Its located on the hi-way between Clovis, NM and Texaco, TX(?)

You just gotta love it !!


90 posted on 10/13/2011 8:20:27 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


91 posted on 10/13/2011 8:20:39 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head; Gosh I love this neighborhood; Mrs. P

Thank you Jeff for putting this all together for us to digest and pass along.


92 posted on 10/13/2011 8:43:04 PM PDT by GILTN1stborn (Can you hear me now?)
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To: Jeff Head

Had we not captured the House this would all still be buried and possibly still running.


93 posted on 10/13/2011 9:34:48 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Jeff Head

Very interesting comments, Jeff Head. I have to read this whole thread carefully tomorrow.


94 posted on 10/13/2011 10:07:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: bitt; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks bitt.


95 posted on 10/14/2011 3:52:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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