Posted on 10/12/2011 11:21:17 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
Even though the United States Senate on Tuesday blocked President Obama's jobs bill, the legislation's specifics -- as well as the idea of taxing the wealthy to pay for it -- are popular with the American public, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
When asked simply if Congress should pass the legislation or not, 30 percent of respondents answer yes, while 22 percent say no; 44 percent have no opinion.
(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...
Oh, and watch how Hussein touts this poll...but no one will aks (yes, I said aks) him about the hugely unpopular DEATHcare law. Or his JOB APPROVAL numbers going down the crapper.
The NBC/WSJ poll — which was conducted Oct. 6-10 of 1,000 adults (200 reached by cell phone), and which has a margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points
,,,,,, , sure isn’t popular with democRATz up for re-election in 2012 .
Popular with whom? The Occupy protesters?
Won’t matter now. It’s toast and it won’t come back up. Obama will have to beat a new dead horse.
Yeah right.
Even if this were true, it would not be surprising that Americans favor taxing the rich.
I guess we should just pass bills with polls now. Mob rule.
30% support is popular?
Of course. They are being told it’s the answer to all their problems and they are grasping at straws.
44% have no opinion.
....and it’s still popular? Nice try.
22% say no and 44% have no opinion but it is popular legislation. Nice spin, but it isn’t going to fly. Even Rats don’t want to vote for this Turkey.
Free Candy is always popular.
Have they polled on HR 365 yet? That’s the one just introduced by some Dummycrat from Michigan that would forgive all the student loan debt.
Nice that our enemies underestimate us. Like we cannot tell that less than one third support the Tax Bill.
Oh, but the assclowns at NBC then gave the people the specific proposals and came up with the “65% approve when given the details” crap.
PIMP THE NARRATIVE, PIMP THE NARRATIVE, PIMP THE NARRATIVE...
FACTS don’t matter, just PIMP THE NARRATIVE.
You said...
“30% support is popular?”
Yes. Don’t you know BHO, with 30% some approval rating, is also popular.
Ok, the no votes are 22% and don’t know are 44% That’s 60 some percent that say no or have no clue. But 30% is popular?? What am I missing??
Anyone who has ever looked at this legislation know that it’s a jobs bill only in that jobs will be eliminated once it’s passed.
What was the response of the missing 4%? - Huh?
22% say they didn’t want the bill passed, and 44% don’t give a hoot?
Isn’t that 66% that don’t WANT the bill passed?
If the question had been, “do you want Congress to pass another stinulus bill?, what do you think the answer would have been then? Yep.
66% would say no.
ORLY?
What’s in the bill?
How is 30 percent popular support? I don’t get this new fangled math.
There is no way the electorate will hold it against ANY politician who refused to add another half trillion dollars to the four trillion we’ve already flushed down the toilet. I can’t imagine a vote with less downside.
Easy answer is tax them
Bull puckey.
The Republicans did not defeat the bill as presented, the few Democrats that crossed over and voted against it defeated the bill. The Republicans simply did not support it in any way.
If anybody should be burned for failure to pass this bill in the Senate, it should be those few Democrats.
Not that bill ever has a snowball’s chance in Hades if EVER it is introduced in the House. But now, it is the DEMOCRATS who have torpedoed Obama’s preposterous bill.
Just to set the record straight. Senate Republicans, in the absence of a filibuster, have no ability to stop the Democrats from doing whatever they want.
it is when their boy wonder has a 36% JA rating...
Not very popular and if you change the name from fraudulently calling it a jobs bill, to calling it "another stimulus bill" which is what it is, the numbers will get even worse for 0.
Only in 0bamaworld is a pet project with 30% acceptance considered “popular.”
This is kinda like telling us Romney is our “frontrunner” when he has 23% of the support- when 77% WANT SOMEONE ELSE
So 66% either don’t want it or couldn’t give a d@mn one way or the other and it’s popular?!?
And 75% wants Obamacare repealed but we don’t hear about that poll.
Pray for America
Oh bullshit!
LLS
Hey! With a name like “Jobs Bill,” it had to be good. :)
I suggest all Freepers who read this should go to the comments following the linked article at MSNBC. Two things stand out. First, they make for comical reading; but second, there is an undercurrent of violence brewing, voiced in some of the comments. I think we here need to be very smart, very prepared for what is coming. This could be, I think, the beginning of civil unrest, fomented by Obama’s brownshirts. One poster suggests young military vets are joining up in the “protests”, that they are gearing up for a fight. This, I think, is a call to arms. We each need to consider ouor response if challenged. It could get very ugly later this year and into the Spring.
The people surveyed had a higher opinion of the plan after pollsters listed its provisions. Once the central elements were enumerated—such as a payroll tax cut and new road construction, as well as the fact that it would be funded by raising taxes on the wealthy—63% said they favored the measure and 32% did not.
Wow, so after they pointed out ONLY the parts they wanted them to know about people had a higher opinion of the plan. Why not say “after talking them into the plan, 32% still didn’t like it”
I wonder who was polled to get these results. While the MSNBC (which talk show host Mark Levin fittingly refers to as “PMSLSD”) article refers to the poll respondents as “Americans,” I would bet the ranch that that the pollsters doing the questioning never even screened out respondents who were aliens. You can always get poll results appearing to favor the ‘Rat position on an issue if you include aliens and/or oversample Democrats and/or explain to those being interviewed how “compassionate” the ‘Rat policy position is (i.e., “push polling”). Then if all that fails, you can fudge the numerical results to your liking..
“Nice spin, but it isn’t going to fly. Even Rats don’t want to vote for this Turkey.”
Remember something about Propaganda.
It doesn’t matter what the TRUTH is, just what the NARRATIVE is.
Obama doesn’t care if the bill actually PASSES or not, the only job he gives a damn about is HIS OWN.
Democrats want the ISSUE of jobs for 2012, they could give a tinker’s damn about actually creating any jobs.
Sounds like more than 60% are not in favor of the phony 2nd Union bailout.
The poll was conducted among 1,000 “adults”. They had a pulse and minimally could distinguish a phone from a bottle.
Less than a third of the people polled supported the law, and that makes it popular? I guess that means that Bush was popular when he left office - didn’t he have a 32 percent approval rating?
Not really. If you were correct, Obummer would be in good shape for reelection. The MSM have been propping him up 24/7. On this bill, you would be right if the Rats held together in the vote. They didn't and now Reid lost the argument about the GOP being obstructionists. It was a bipartisan rejection of the bill that most people don't want.
Take away the editorial page and the WSJ is just another Drive-by organization...
30% support and 44% no opinion is popular? There, fixed it.
Phone polls skew to people who have time and desire to answer them. Conservatives are automatically less likely to answer them, as conservatives generally are working, spending time with family, or have a distrust of media.
During the day, who would be interested in talking to pollsters on the subject? The polling starts with the answering of the phone, and then continues with the first sentence or two. If the first sentence starts with “I would like to ask you a few questions about the President’s jobs bill” vs “I would like to ask you some questions and this may take X minutes” you get a different type of respondent.
So polls like these generally reach those who are able to answer the phone and answer questions. That lead to unemployed, retired people generally. Then depending on the framing of the first few sentences people who are highly opinionated on the topic may choose to stay on the line whereas people who don’t care will hang up. Specifically speaking of this poll, if purely by random, because you call between 9am-5pm, you got 25% of the respondents who are unemployed, they will skew the results obviously. Retirees too are perhaps more likely to favor government initiatives because they rely on SS and Medicare for example. And so on.
All that, just for starters. Then there is the wording of the questions, and other psychological aspects to polling.
BS!
In the particular case of the poll discussed in this thread, the article reveals next to nothing about the specifics of the methodology used. Why? I suspect that if they spelled out the specifics, their results would be discredited.
Exactly. All you really need to say is MSNBC and you know it probably won’t be scientific. But hey, it gives them something to fill their news cycle with. They are a business, and have a “customer base” that fits a certain demographic. I wouldn’t be surprised if MSNBC has a non-exclusive contract with a small polling outfit that allows them to conduct, say for example, 20 quick, rudimentary polls each year. So when they want to feed their viewing audience some red meat, or make them feel good, or give them talking points for call-in shows and office water-cooler debates they can generate some data quickly, easily, but nothing to take any more seriously than an episode of Family Guy. It’s all geared to make the customer enjoy the experience of watching the program.
Thanks justiceseeker93. You give them too much of the benefit of the doubt. :’)
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